Debate Mr Cool Ice on how artificial hormones are totally the solution to her being a fat chick with GOTIS

[AmberHeardSupporter]

I hate feminism as a whole and feel no sexual nor romantic feelings for anyone, really. I can't be a dyke if I'm both not a woman nor really find anyone, let alone women, hot 99% of the time.
So you at least got the "feminist derangement syndrome" bit right. Congrats! I hope your man-hating, retarded ways catch up to you.
Not every FtM is the stereotype you're describing, either. And if you've ever seen a picture of me, I make an extensive effort to pass, or at the very least, not look feminine in the slightest nor like a lesbian.
Ironically, the grand majority of us never detransition because it's the only known working treatment of Dysphoria, even if it's not 100% and needs refining.

I haven't drank in about a month, and if I drink in the future I'll skip my Risperdal for the night.

You look and type like a woman. A fat, hysterical, self-hating, self-flagellating woman. All FtMs detransition eventually, which is why I don't even care to rag on them too hard because they'll all go back to being Danielle or Stephanie or Joanne when being Daniel or Stephan or Joe doesn't work. FtMs are utterly useless to society, they have zero capabilities a real man has, they're not strong like a man, smart like a man, attractive like a man, they can't even be used as fetish fodder like trans identified males because who wants to fuck a Frankenstein-chested broad with a rusty pussy? The only use FtMs have is making more people hate their silly little movement which you have done an amazing job at with your whiny, obnoxiously feminine behavior. I would tell you to 41% yourself but only real men kill themselves. Women like you just bitch and moan and beg for attention

 

[The Ugly One]

So basically you're just a standard self hating dyke with feminism derangement syndrome that's so not- like-the-other-girls you have to chop your tits off and larp as a man for a few years until you inevitably detransition and walk around like a freak for the rest of your life. Many such cases. Everyday I am genuinely floored by how self-hating and pathetic the average FtM is.

me: i hate women
ftm: hold my beer
me: holy shit, i am an amateur
ftm: *dies of diabetic shock*

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

You look and type like a woman. A fat, hysterical, self-hating, self-flagellating woman. All FtMs detransition eventually, which is why I don't even care to rag on them too hard because they'll all go back to being Danielle or Stephanie or Joanne when being Daniel or Stephan or Joe doesn't work. FtMs are utterly useless to society, they have zero capabilities a real man has, they're not strong like a man, smart like a man, attractive like a man, they can't even be used as fetish fodder like trans identified males because who wants to fuck a Frankenstein-chested broad with a rusty pussy? The only use FtMs have is making more people hate their silly little movement which you have done an amazing job at with your whiny, obnoxiously feminine behavior. I would tell you to 41% yourself but only real men kill themselves. Women like you just bitch and moan and beg for attention

You very clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
It's very apparent that most FtMs never detransition in the slightest. The only ones who detransition either fell for the feminist death cult or faked dysphoria in the first place. In rare cases, they got a misdiagnosis and didn't intentionally steal resources from real trans people.
I also find it amusing that you think most trans people want to fuck. I have absolutely no interest in sex, or even having a relationship with anyone. If anything, I'd consider being unfuckable the best thing that could ever happen to me.
How anyone could have sex, undress in front of anyone, or hell, even masturbate is completely over my head. I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that shit. It's terrifying and disgusting to me

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

OP, your gender dysphoria will not go away with HRT, it will probably get worse. You have 0 chance of passing as a man.

your autism makes you prone to repetitive or obsessives thought patterns. You lack self-reflection and metacognitive skills, which are faculties that autism does make harder to acquire, but not impossible. Even the way you knee-jerk respond to people in this thread demonstrates that you aren't able to think through your emotional reactions before acting on them. You should try asking a psychiatrist about something like exposure therapy, where you sit with things that make you uncomfortable for increasingly long periods of time so you can adapt to the feeling and stop immediately reacting to it. I've seen it work with other autistic people in the past.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

My problem with TERFs isn't even that they're anti-trans. It's that they're feminists. That's it I fucking despise feminists with a burning passion. LibFem, RadFem or otherwise, I hate you equally.

Feminists are probably the only people who can relate to you and care for you.
Not all feminists but some.
You should read some feminists stuff. The right one could help you. They have written about being a crazy woman, an unwanted woman...

I'll be dead by 50 considering my genetics alone. I have no intention of having a long life. It's not in my favor.

Your self-destructive tendancies are in full view.

For a lack of better words, the grand majority of other conditions are chronic, and will never go away. For real dysphoria, HRT typically helps, but therapy does absolutely nothing, and there is no cure-all. Your neurology is fucked up.

Broad generalities that are inaccurate and help nobody

And I'm not a fucking butch, and I have no interest in your fucking vulva cult. The only interest I have in it is watching the movement crash and burn in the wake of Roe v. Wade. I do not want to be included. We don't need feminism, even women don't need feminism.
I know I'm a natal female, I don't deny that because I'm not a tucute cunt. But HRT balances hormones for most trans people, and makes it consistent with the structure of their brain. I'm a transman, not a woman, but not male, either. And I'm okay with that.

I am not against HRT (for some), but You don't have "male brain structure". If you wish to be a man, or be more masculine or be looked at as a male, that's one thing, but stop believing into essentialist shit. "Male brain structure " on females makes as much sense as believing in astrology. "I am a man because even tho I am a woman I am Pisces Sun with Libra Moon and Imaginary Balls Rising ". Nonsense.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

Feminists are probably the only people who can relate to you and care for you.
Not all feminists but some.
You should read some feminists stuff. The right one could help you. They have written about being a crazy woman, an unwanted woman...

Your self-destructive tendancies are in full view.

Broad generalities that are inaccurate and help nobody

I am not against HRT (for some), but You don't have "male brain structure". If you wish to be a man, or be more masculine or be looked at as a male, that's one thing, but stop believing into essentialist shit. "Male brain structure " on females makes as much sense as believing in astrology. "I am a man because even tho I am a woman I am Pisces Sun with Libra Moon and Imaginary Balls Rising ". Nonsense.

But I'm not a woman, never was a woman, and never will be a woman. I have no interests in feminism and actively hold vitriol towards every single one of them. I agree with them on almost 0 principles or beliefs, we disagree right down to the center and always have, even before I trooned out.
Every time someone who likes Dworkin dies is a day the world heals. You all murder children like it's birth control and want men to be oppressed when everyone already has legal rights.
I do not like feminism. I will die before I even consider becoming a feminist. Hell, committing 41% by drowning would be more enjoyable and a better use of time than pinkpilling.
I know a lot of people say that being trans is a cult. I beg to differ, since all us trannies want nothing more than to see other trannies burn. If you actually think it's a neurological disorder, which it is, you get cast out and sent gore by tucutes. Which are the entirety of trenders and most other trannies in the modern day. My view on tranny shit is almost entirely in line with people like Buck Angel and (unfortunately) Blaire White. This makes me prone to being cannibalized, spergy rant aside, while I can see people who says this' point I disagree, because being trans is a neurological disorder treated as a last resort with HRT. Or at least it should be.
However, I have only met a tiny handful of radical feminists that didn't exist in a fishy-smelling hugbox, and weren't NPCs. Almost all of them have the exact same abhorrent views, and scream and piss their pants when someone exists outside of their little boxes.
I am not a woman, and will go to any length I have to in order to get this point across. Even if it torches my reputation. Even if it shows people how desperate for control I am. Even if it eventually leads to a slow, painful death.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

But I'm not a woman, never was a woman, and never will be a woman. I have no interests in feminism and actively hold vitriol towards every single one of them. I agree with them on almost 0 principles or beliefs, we disagree right down to the center and always have, even before I trooned out.
Every time someone who likes Dworkin dies is a day the world heals. You all murder children like it's birth control and want men to be oppressed when everyone already has legal rights.
I do not like feminism. I will die before I even consider becoming a feminist. Hell, committing 41% by drowning would be more enjoyable and a better use of time than pinkpilling.
I know a lot of people say that being trans is a cult. I beg to differ, since all us trannies want nothing more than to see other trannies burn. If you actually think it's a neurological disorder, which it is, you get cast out and sent gore by tucutes. Which are the entirety of trenders and most other trannies in the modern day. My view on tranny shit is almost entirely in line with people like Buck Angel and (unfortunately) Blaire White. This makes me prone to being cannibalized, spergy rant aside, while I can see people who says this' point I disagree, because being trans is a neurological disorder treated as a last resort with HRT. Or at least it should be.
However, I have only met a tiny handful of radical feminists that didn't exist in a fishy-smelling hugbox, and weren't NPCs. Almost all of them have the exact same abhorrent views, and scream and piss their pants when someone exists outside of their little boxes.
I am not a woman, and will go to any length I have to in order to get this point across. Even if it torches my reputation. Even if it shows people how desperate for control I am. Even if it eventually leads to a slow, painful death.

You have delusions of grandeur, and your delusions are boring

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

You have delusions of grandeur, and your delusions are boring

How so? I'm intrigued.

 

[The Feline Solution]

I cannot rate posts but know what I bolded is probably the most delusionally optimistic thing I've read in a while. Typical hysterical woman, I go out of my way to help you and here you are literally shaking because I didn't use kid gloves. That's why I know you'll never be happy. I'm giving you probably the best results-oriented advice there is. You would likely be dead by 60 but I feel that is a foregone conclusion regardless of what is done in your case. You have managed to hit close to home on some points, so my sister in Christ please read this:
- Zoloft is the devil's drug and you are on a horse dose my friend. Your apathy about being an adipose blob. Your delusional rationalization of muscles disgusting you. Your lack of motivation to work out. Likelly all attributable to this. Do not stop it cold turkey. Not all SSRIs are bad, you may really need them. But shit is not working my friend and I wish someone had said to me years ago what I am saying to you now about it.
- You don't write like a schizo. So is the Risperdal for 'tism or bipolar? It will make you retain weight like a motherfucker. Tardive dyskenisia is no walk in the park.

Motherfucker you're a king size candy bar from rolling into the local ER DKA. Carbs become sugar as you digest them and that is why I am recommending such extraordinary measures to get your weight down. I almost died finding out I was diabetic because I fell and couldn't get up to get my phone. It was days in the ICU being almost ignored for the COVID patients dying around me. I was managing it with diet alone <90 days post-hospitalization. It literally just takes not being an unrepentant, brain-dead glutton.
- You're stacking psych meds and alcohol on top of all this already going on. To summarize it for you: RIP your liver if you stick to this, HRT or otherwise.

I'm not sure where you think I called you a lesbian, I only said butchy dykes are more masc than the genderblob you are. You are fat and if I was attracted to whatever you identify as I would not have sex with you. I take exception to you thinking I could look at you and think anything sexual. Man the fuck up like an FTM that wants to pass and wants to live and take this advice. It'll be the best thing for you. Or don't and continue to be a smouldering lipid-filled dumpster fire I can gawk and laugh at. Edit: look at this dumb Andy-milonakis-looking bitch:
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Looks like a fat Miranda Ann Constable, it's uncanny. Risperdal and alcohol abuse is also such a completly fucked up combo that makes me wonder how she has any cognitive function left to make somewhat coherent posts on here. I've known people who got on anti-psychotics that afterwards pretty much ceased to exist as their former selves, some didn't even seem to act and feel human anymore, even on the lowest effective dosage. Pure zombie drug. The weight gain from Seroquel and Risperidone is out of this world, too, wouldn't surprise me if bitch is pushing three hundo

Edit: Jesus, this thread. I'm out after two pages, should've read more before i even bothered to post something.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

Looks like a fat Miranda Ann Constable, it's uncanny. Risperdal and alcohol abuse is also such a completly fucked up combo that makes me wonder how she has any cognitive function left to make somewhat coherent posts on here. I've known people who got on anti-psychotics that afterwards pretty much ceased to exist as their former selves, some didn't even seem to act and feel human anymore, even on the lowest effective dosage. Pure zombie drug. The weight gain from Seroquel and Risperidone is out of this world, too, wouldn't surprise me if bitch is pushing three hundo

I'm on Sertraline (Zoloft) and Risperidone (Risperdal), and I honestly feel infinitely better on my medication. Without it I get violent and am prone to psychotic breaks.
I last weighed myself in June, and I was 219lbs. Not sure how much now, I'm just unfortunate that it all goes to my face and stomach. Fortunately, however, I have a flat ass and flat chest even with all the weight.

 

[BelUwUga]

Edit: Jesus, this thread. I'm out after two pages, should've read more before i even bothered to post something.

They're definitely someone who is really testing my limits of having to remember I am only alive and well right now because people continued being honest with me when I was likewise delusional and unwilling to hear reason. It's really an indictment of our medical/psychological industries. This is what "well-managed" patients on SSRIs and antipsychotics looks like. They are so addicted to attention and so detached from reality they continued engaging with me. They have textbook evidence they've admitted themselves makes it look like I was likely right. Even if we accept this as accurate narration, I really doubt whatever actually caused these symptoms is wholly separate from looking like a live-action Michelin man.

I don't find it logically consistent to expect anything less than these kinds of theatrics from the exceptional speds I come across. What angers is confounds me are the intelligent and otherwise rational people that buy the horse shit and enable them. It's sad.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

They're definitely someone who is really testing my limits of having to remember I am only alive and well right now because people continued being honest with me when I was likewise delusional and unwilling to hear reason. It's really an indictment of our medical/psychological industries. This is what "well-managed" patients on SSRIs and antipsychotics looks like. They are so addicted to attention and so detached from reality they continued engaging with me. They have textbook evidence they've admitted themselves makes it look like I was likely right. Even if we accept this as accurate narration, I really doubt whatever actually caused these symptoms is wholly separate from looking like a live-action Michelin man.

I don't find it logically consistent to expect anything less than these kinds of theatrics from the exceptional speds I come across. What angers is confounds me are the intelligent and otherwise rational people that buy the horse shit and enable them. It's sad.

I actually love my size, I was FAR more dysphoric when I was a bony teen. Gender Dysphoria and Body Dysmorphia are very different, not even comparable honestly, but I'm beyond glad that I have a flat chest & ass and my weight helps me look less female.
Now HRT is what I need to complete the look. To look as little feminine as possible.
Everything beyond that point is for personal comfort.
As for the medication bit, it's either this or I try to commit a murder-suicide. Personally, I prefer being in complete control of myself, my image, others perception of me, etc. The idea of me being a puppet to someone else seemingly controlling my body while horrible acts are done is more horrifying to me than, say, being a pig who sits on my ass all day without the energy to move. At least in that case, I can control my mental state.
I do not want attention. I just want to correct your false assumptions.

 

[Jack Awful]

If you don't want to improve you won't and you will remain fat, disgusting, and miserable

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

If you don't want to improve you won't and you will remain fat, disgusting, and miserable

I do want to improve, but "accepting my body" is basically a guaranteed road to suicide judging by my past attempts at doing just that. But for the past 3 years, nothing has changed over troon shit. Since I was 16, I wanted to go on HRT. Up until recently, I've had thing after thing thrown at my chances, but now I'm so close I can feel it.
As long as it doesn't involve living as a woman, I'll hear you out. But know that I'm extremely stubborn, and that's one of the few things I'm hard locked on and nothing anyone can say will convince me not to.

 

[Jack Awful]

I do want to improve, but "accepting my body" is basically a guaranteed road to suicide judging by my past attempts at doing just that. But for the past 3 years, nothing has changed over troon shit. Since I was 16, I wanted to go on HRT. Up until recently, I've had thing after thing thrown at my chances, but now I'm so close I can feel it.
As long as it doesn't involve living as a woman, I'll hear you out. But know that I'm extremely stubborn, and that's one of the few things I'm hard locked on and nothing anyone can say will convince me not to.

Kiwi Farms's motto is "you will never be a man, you'll be a girl with no tits and a skin graft"

I don't have dysphoria, but is it possible to just try and think of yourself less as a woman and more as a person?

 

[BelUwUga]

I actually love my size, I was FAR more dysphoric when I was a bony teen. Gender Dysphoria and Body Dysmorphia are very different, not even comparable honestly, but I'm beyond glad that I have a flat chest & ass and my weight helps me look less female.
Now HRT is what I need to complete the look. To look as little feminine as possible.
Everything beyond that point is for personal comfort.
As for the medication bit, it's either this or I try to commit a murder-suicide. Personally, I prefer being in complete control of myself, my image, others perception of me, etc. The idea of me being a puppet to someone else seemingly controlling my body while horrible acts are done is more horrifying to me than, say, being a pig who sits on my ass all day without the energy to move. At least in that case, I can control my mental state.
I do not want attention. I just want to correct your false assumptions.

See what I mean @Fax Machine 1488 ? Just completely detached from reality. Lil sperg over here thinks they're a snowflake because growing into their body made them feel weird. Despite reading out a laundry list of symptoms that make simple living hell, this creature "loves" their body.

Now HRT is what I need to complete the look. To look as little feminine as possible.

I already explained to them they don't want to be lumpy like clay if they so wish to shape their body. I've made it clear HRT is not going to give them what they want. I even directed them in a more fruitful direction to throw their life away if they so choose. Yet she persists.

Everything beyond that point is for personal comfort.
As for the medication bit, it's either this or I try to commit a murder-suicide.

Okay drama queen. Weren't we having a conversation the other day where you were too lazy to get the necessaries for an exit bag? I'm sure refilling the feedbag on your face with McDonalds took more effort than that would have taken. We all know you're not summoning the effort for a murder. Again they ignore that there are myriad options between meds as they take them now and nothing at all.

At least in that case, I can control my mental state.
I do not want attention. I just want to correct your false assumptions.

Behold, a lying liar that lies, telling their biggest lies yet!

 

[The Feline Solution]

Edit: Fuck this thread, seriously.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

I also find it amusing that you think most trans people want to fuck. I have absolutely no interest in sex, or even having a relationship with anyone. If anything, I'd consider being unfuckable the best thing that could ever happen to me.
How anyone could have sex, undress in front of anyone, or hell, even masturbate is completely over my head. I don't understand how anyone could enjoy that shit. It's terrifying and disgusting to me

Good lord this is the fembrained cope in history. You got weird sexual trauma or you're just a fat ugly bitch so you're gonna mutilate yourself to make yourself so ugly no man wants to fuck you. You couldn't be more of a woman if you tried. Newsflash, if you really want to come across as male, grow a pair of balls and support your own movements. Men do not hate themselves like this. I don't particularly like feminists either, but only a woman would have this much hate in their hearts for a group of women trying to better other women. Men don't hate MRAs or MGTOWS or incels to the point of pretending to be a woman because even if they're cringe they're still on their side. Only women hate themselves this much.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

See what I mean @Fax Machine 1488 ? Just completely detached from reality.

Not really, no.

Lil sperg over here thinks they're a snowflake because growing into their body made them feel weird.

Actually, no. My dysphoria started as far back as I can remember, and it never once dissipated. Adding onto this, I fucking hate people who think it's "trendy" to suffer my disorder. It's a slap in the fucking face; I hate snowflakes and SocJus types.

Despite reading out a laundry list of symptoms that make simple living hell, this creature "loves" their body.

I feel confidence in my size and genuinely enjoy it. I do not, however, enjoy my voice, chest, genitalia, internal or external, lack of body hair, etc. That is enough to make me never really leave the house or undress without blocking my view of my body somehow.

I already explained to them they don't want to be lumpy like clay if they so wish to shape their body. I've made it clear HRT is not going to give them what they want. I even directed them in a more fruitful direction to throw their life away if they so choose. Yet she persists.

Sorry dude, but I'll never be a woman.

Okay drama queen. Weren't we having a conversation the other day where you were too lazy to get the necessaries for an exit bag?

What's an exit bag?

I'm sure refilling the feedbag on your face with McDonalds took more effort than that would have taken.

I don't get fast food all too often, honestly.

We all know you're not summoning the effort for a murder. Again they ignore that there are myriad options between meds as they take them now and nothing at all.

I'm prescribed meds because I'm a genuine danger without them. I actually did attempt to kill another child when I was 8, hence the extensive therapy and eventual heavy medication

Behold, a lying liar that lies, telling their biggest lies yet!

I'm not lying you fucking piece of shit. I haven't lied. It's not in my character to. I know you want to fucking get down to the truth of things like I do. I'd rather fucking shoot myself than ever lie like that.

I don't understand why she's posting this shit on KF, of all places, even if it's in this subforum.

Okay, you actually seem like someone I can properly respond to! I used to be relatively respected, but about 2 months ago I sorta sperged and never recovered. I expected this "phase" for a lack of better words to recover after a couple weeks. This, obviously, did not happen, and I kept sperging, kept improving, then falling off the deep end. So honestly, it's a case of flying too close to the sun and not being stable enough to handle the fallout.

I can't even rate her shit autistic, i'd tend towards manic phase by her writing pattern. But a manic phase on Risperidone seems very unlikely. Is the interaction with Zoloft the trigger?

I'm not even sure if I'm having a manic episode, to be completely honest. It has most of the symptoms, sans the sexual shit, but it's not like a typical manic episode where it comes in ebbs and flows. It was triggered by my interactions with others over and over again.

I also will never understand the tranny mindset of thinking that trooning out will magically fix any and all of their mental problems, it's completly delusional.

Oh, it absolutely will not fix everything. It'll fix the dysphoria and extreme internal discomfort. Beyond that, I have to find other things to remedy my mental health with. The extreme discomfort to the point of a lack of self care is my biggest concern at the moment, which is why I'm so focused on fixing it.

You got weird sexual trauma or you're just a fat ugly bitch so you're gonna mutilate yourself to make yourself so ugly no man wants to fuck you.

No, not being fuckable is absolutely a perk, but it's far from a reason in the first place. Not sure if you know this, but Risperdal usually causes anything from complete disinterest in sex to an outright disgust at the idea. Dysphoria also makes the idea of even undressing completely disgusting and horrible and a nightmare, so you tend not to.

Newsflash, if you really want to come across as male, grow a pair of balls and support your own movements. Men do not hate themselves like this. I don't particularly like feminists either, but only a woman would have this much hate in their hearts for a group of women trying to better other women. Men don't hate MRAs or MGTOWS or incels to the point of pretending to be a woman because even if they're cringe they're still on their side. Only women hate themselves this much.

I am not a woman, so feminism isn't my own movement. Most feminazis actually want trannies dead, so I feel likewise towards them when they even suggest they feel that way. I would sooner face the wall than ever even be in the same room as one. If I was forced to be in a room with one, however, my lethargy and the laborious act of physical activity would absolutely keep her safe. I hate moving quickly more than I hate her breathing

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

Imagine hating yourself so much that you'd rather wreck your body with HRT, spend thousands upon thousands of dollars, get painful surgery that leaves scars and is open to a lifetime of complications, just to be a fat short man let. Because being a dyke is that bad.

Who raped you?