Debate the validity of the idea that copying an intangible, inexhaustible idea, signal, etc., is equivalent to theft.

[Gog & Magog]

Using someone else's name or logo to impersonate their business isn't theft, and it still isn't about "stealing" an idea. Worst case it's fraud by misrepresenting yourself to third parties in a way that can violate contractual expectations or informed consent

What if I were up front with evrrybody? I wouldn't be the real Null, just some guy using his likeness and trademarks for money making.

 

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What if I were up front with evrrybody? I wouldn't be the real Null, just some guy using his likeness and trademarks for money making.

Reputation isn't property, it's a pattern in other people's minds. You can't "own" what others think of you. So if someone uses your image or style without pretending to be you they're not taking anything, they're just riding the wave of public perception
Maybe parasitic, possibly rude. But if there's no fraud and no rights violation, there's nothing to prohibit
It might be lame to use someone's likeness or catchphrase for clout chasing, but calling it "theft" pretends that a personal offense is an actual property claim

 

[We Are The Witches]

Outside of legality, you "own" nothing but your own consciousness (which you can't even ultimately control).

As a "deep thought", you'll have to define your terms very carefully (property, theft, copying/the act you're talking about, etc).

E.g: you made a game, and then I copied it. Some person is looking for that specific genre of game and stumbles upon mine, they play it and are content with it. Now they won't actively search for yours because of me, and so I just took a possibility of that person taking your game instead, because I metaphorically put myself in the way.

But at the same time, you don't own that, or you do? That's why you need to define stuff with detail in a world with laws and rules, otherwise you are not entitled to anything.

Is that game your property? OK, then what about the possibilities for commerce with the idea of your game? And to what degree? (will be extremely subjective) Is someone violating that by depriving you of such opportunities considered theft under your definition? Maybe.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

Copyright is a obsolete concept in a post-internet post-AI age. Copyright is no longer about protecting creators but rather to ruin lives of innocent people who just want to enjoy works of art.
The advent of DMCA means that copyright holders can legally ruin your life if they want to. This means they can shut down your internet for simply downloading a movie. This is no different from communist China shutting internet off for people who disagree with the government. They can also shut down your account for posting clips from movies, potentially destroying your internet career and make you lose contact with families and online friends. They have used DMCA to destroy cultural heritage and keep people from finding good music.
Here are some examples of why copyright as a whole should completely be scrapped as it enables “rightsholders” to behave like organized crime groups like mafias, and cartels. I’ll also compare it to what gangs do to show you how evil “copyright enforcement” is.

Spoiler: Example

Nintendo stalking a pirate developer: https://archive.is/wip/tnn6D
South American Theft Groups also time and plan their burglaries via spying on people albeit using hidden camera: https://archive.is/wip/I9M4F
Verizon has previously throttled internet speeds for people downloading media: https://archive.is/RwmGb
In China, those with low social credit scores get slower internet speeds because they do not want to conform to the ways of what the state wants: https://archive.is/Q16O8
Rights holders have stalked people’s social media profiles in a attempt to find a case against them:https://archive.is/n7Aou
Cartels have also paid hitmen to stalk their enemies and rivals before killing them: https://archive.is/zIi2e
Museum of Classic Chicago Television almost got shut down by Sony solely for preserving older works and almost risk destroying irrecoverable cultural artifacts: https://archive.is/o08r8
A decade ago, many valuable cultural artifacts were destroyed by jihadists in Syria and Iraq, many of whom date back to antiquity:https://archive.is/wip/ka6cm

There are many other examples of “copyright holders” behaving like gangs, totalitarian government, drug cartels and terrorist groups, however, these 4 cases are hard evidence for us that, in the age of information that copyright is not legitimate and needs to be scrapped for good.