Debate user @Catch The Rainbow if you can be loyal to both countries as a dual citizen.

Badungus Kabungus said:
I like how no one seems to want to answer my questions and instead are just trying to deflect. Poorly, if I may add.

Yeah, the Jews see what you're doing and are calling you out for having dual loyalties. Explain yourself, Papist.

Why do you need to extract 15-20 billion dollars every year from the American economy and donate it to the Vatican? The Pope isn't rich enough?
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It isn't a question worth responding to. It's completely empty platitudes meant to avoid answering the actual question at hand. In a mere handful of sentences you've implied Catholics are actually communists and that Russian invasion was imminent to such an extent that the US would be Red Dawned. Like what?

You also just have to edge in that Christians are thieves and bad. Nice.

Eat a dick.
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
Why do Catholic Americans have loyalty to the Vatican and obey the Pope?

They should be either Americans, or Catholics. How much money gets drained from America and settles in the coffers of the Vatican thanks to their dual loyalties?

Edit: My research shows that about 15 to 18.5 billion dollars gets extracted from the American economy and ends up in the hands of the Vatican every year. Look it up yourselves, the Catholics are a massive money drain for the American economy.
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All religious donations would fall into this category retard.
 
TJT said:
It isn't a question worth responding to. It's completely empty platitudes meant to avoid answering the actual question at hand. In a mere handful of sentences you've implied Catholics are actually communists and that Russian invasion was imminent to such an extent that the US would be Red Dawned. Like what?

You also just have to edge in that Christians are thieves and bad. Nice.

Eat a dick.
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This has nothing to do with Christians, it's about the Catholic Church. The facts are, 25% of the American population willingly donate a certain percentage of their money to a foreign entity. All the finances of the Catholic Church are handled by the Vatican.

Other religious donations stay within the country, going to local communities. It's totally not the same thing.

The mere fact they're willingly sending their own money outside their own nation to a foreign entity shows their dual loyalty.
 
Dual citizenship is retarded, and anybody who has it shouldn't be allowed to do anything of importance in America. I'm not sure it should even be allowed.

Badungus Kabungus said:
The mere fact they're willingly sending their own money outside their own nation to a foreign entity shows their dual loyalty.
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I'm not Catholic, but no it doesn't. God > family > country.
 
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Badungus Kabungus said:
That's exactly my point, that a lot of Catholics have more loyalty to the Vatican and the Pope than to their host nation.
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It's not a bad point at a glance, but once you think about it a moment it doesn't hold up. Their loyalty isn't to the Vatican nor the Pope, they're incidental in Catholics' (misplaced) loyalty to God.

Edit: By misplaced I'm referring to their Catholic specific beliefs, not faith in God.
 
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SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
It's not a bad point at a glance, but once you think about it a moment it doesn't hold up. Their loyalty isn't to the Vatican nor the Pope, they're incidental in Catholics' (misplaced) loyalty to God.
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If that's the case and they do not send funds to the Vatican, then they're just Christians, not Catholics. No problems there.
 
It's not worth discussing. Our Glorious Savior actually spoke directly about such matters.

"Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him."

Mark 12:17

Jew word games warping Catholics as having dual loyalty is preposterous as usual.
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
If that's the case and they do not send funds to the Vatican, then they're just Christians, not Catholics. No problems there.
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Well we're talking about Catholics, so that seems irrelevant. The Pope is who Catholics believe has God's authority, and they're doing what God wants, and the Pope just so happens to live outside America. It has nothing to do with Vatican City, if the Pope lived in Japan or America they'd still do what they're currently doing, because they don't have loyalty to Vatican City but to God who uses the Pope.

It's very simple. Catholics are first and foremost loyal to God, not America, the Vatican, or anything else, as it should be. As I said, all else is incidental.
 
SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Well we're talking about Catholics, so that seems irrelevant. The Pope is who Catholics believe has God's authority, and they're doing what God wants, and the Pope just so happens to live outside America. It has nothing to do with Vatican City, if the Pope lived in Japan or America they'd still do what they're currently doing, because they don't have loyalty to Vatican City but to God who uses the Pope.

It's very simple. Catholics are first and foremost loyal to God, not America, the Vatican, or anything else, as it should be. As I said, all else is incidental.
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If they believe the Pope has God's authority and the Pope starts demanding that everyone should take in more refugees and let trannies roam free around women's spaces, do you see how that creates a problem?
 
The answer is simple: you're living in America, tomorrow a war starts with Israel, do you stay and fight the israelis? or you go there and switch sides?

This is the same situation many german-americans found themselves in WWI and WWII, and many sided with us even as we bombed Germany to cinders.

So what about you?
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
That's exactly my point, that a lot of Catholics have more loyalty to the Vatican and the Pope than to their host nation. That's just what their faith demands, it is what it is.
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The Vatican is just one of the many heads to keep people under control
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Catch the Rainbow is a literal sewer rat, who defends the pedophilic practices of Chabad jews.

Chungus kowabungus is a retarded chicken hawk faggot who pretends to be tough while also living in Brooklyn.

They are both cowardly retards with nothing worthwhile to say.
 
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maybe its the same rule as harem where you have to gift all the woman the same amount of gifs

me personaly i am know to bang multiples mothers from forum users and i can keep them all happy so my answer is yes you can
 
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