Debate user "NotSendingTheirBest" on the ethics and morality of executing offending animal and child abusers

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

I agree, even child molesters deserve a chance of life

Spoiler: Down Voters

And if you rate negative, then you're mad as fuck

 

[Non-Expert!]

13/52. Reminder that if America where all white the US would have the same gun crime rate as Belgium.

The US has a cancer and it isn't whites, Christians, or capitalists.

Can we please return to the topic of dog torturing and kiddo-shagging? And the type of justice they deserve?

Somehow that topic is more palatable, then trying to reason with somebody who considers many of us to be a cancer.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

13/52. Reminder that if America where all white the US would have the same gun crime rate as Belgium.

The US has a cancer and it isn't whites, Christians, or capitalists.

The gun crime rate in the US was actually higher when it was more ethnically-homogeneous, Mr. Armchair Scholar. Gun crime in the US peaks during the Great Depression and Prohibition, during the peak of organized crime in the US. And it wasn't Jews, blacks, and commies doing the shooting.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

The gun crime rate in the US was actually higher when it was more ethnically-homogeneous, Mr. Armchair Scholar. Gun crime in the US peaks during the Great Depression and Prohibition, during the peak of organized crime in the US. And it wasn't Jews, blacks, and commies doing the shooting.

I'm talking about right now. Why would I care about historical crime rates? Remove gun violence committed by blacks and mexicans from current statistics and it drops to a comparable rate to many EU countries.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I'm talking about right now. Why would I care about historical crime rates? Remove gun violence committed by blacks and mexicans from current statistics and it drops to a comparable rate to many EU countries.

Because studying the past allows us to learn more about the present. Here's how you can apply it here:
-In 1920's America, there was a large impoverished underclass consisting of Italians, Germans, and Irishmen who were often seen as social inferiors and struggled to make ends meet. They made up the bulk of the criminal classes in that period. As education rates rose and social discrimination against these groups fell, crime rates in that group also fell.
-In modern-day America, there is a large impoverished underclass consisting of African-Americans and Hispanics that are often seen as social inferiors and struggle to make ends meet. They make up the bulk of the criminal classes today. Long-term outcome studies show that the more educated AA or Hispanic persons are, the less likely they are to commit crimes.

I would also suggest studying historical attempts to enact genocide on sizable ethnic minorities in a country, particularly on how logistically-difficult that is and how doing so is near-universally condemned.

 

[Meowthkip]

I don't even know what this thread is anymore.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Because studying the past allows us to learn more about the present. Here's how you can apply it here:
-In 1920's America, there was a large impoverished underclass consisting of Italians, Germans, and Irishmen who were often seen as social inferiors and struggled to make ends meet. They made up the bulk of the criminal classes in that period. As education rates rose and social discrimination against these groups fell, crime rates in that group also fell.
-In modern-day America, there is a large impoverished underclass consisting of African-Americans and Hispanics that are often seen as social inferiors and struggle to make ends meet. They make up the bulk of the criminal classes today. Long-term outcome studies show that the more educated AA or Hispanic persons are, the less likely they are to commit crimes.

I would also suggest studying historical attempts to enact genocide on sizable ethnic minorities in a country, particularly on how logistically-difficult that is and how doing so is near-universally condemned.

Poor whites shoot less people than poor blacks. Poor white towns have significantly less crime than poor black towns. Nice try, Zog.

 

[PumpkinSpiceBitchMeringue]

Guys, @NotSendingTheirBest is not even responding.

 

[Non-Expert!]

I would also suggest studying historical attempts to enact genocide on sizable ethnic minorities in a country, particularly on how logistically-difficult that is and how doing so is near-universally condemned.

So is discussing it, even in jest. Either this fellow is going to take a very strong hint, and figure it out, or he isn't.

Let's say it in another way: he can learn the easy way, or the hard way. Either way, he will learn. The easy way is simple: you get a clue. The hard way, is really, very hard.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Poor whites shoot less people than poor blacks. Poor white towns have significantly less crime than poor black towns. Nice try, Zog.

And instead of applying any critical thought as to why that is, you decide to crow "yoo JOO so yoo wrong!"
This isn't /pol/.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

And instead of applying any critical thought as to why that is, you decide to crow "yoo JOO so yoo wrong!"
This isn't /pol/.

Why then? Why do blacks consistently do worse in every single metric no matter what their socioeconomic status is? Rich blacks are shittier than rich whites, poor blacks and poor whites same story. What could possibly make that a reality besides them just being worse?

Go live in an inner city for a while. From my experience everyone that sings this same kumbaya "why can't everyone just get along?" horseshit is predominantly from the suburbs. Dude, I grew up the only white kid on my street, surrounded by niggers, I went to a black school system, where I was mercilessly TORTURED for a decade. Somehow I'm the only person that emerged from my graduating class and made something of themselves, even though every single one of those fucking gorilla nigger animals qualified for a free 4 year ride to a state school. No. They aren't people. They're subhuman scum.

Go walk around downtown St. Louis and spread your white guilt gospel horseshit to the poor white kids trying to just survive there.

While the National Guard was in Ferguson they should've gone to the north side of the metro and fucking leveled it with all the souls still inside. Would've done the world a favor.

 

[Coke Pope]

This blatant pedophobic and zoophobic bigotry needs to stop
Jokes aside

And instead of applying any critical thought as to why that is, you decide to crow "yoo JOO so yoo wrong!"
This isn't /pol/.

Guess what? I am not a fucking nigger, so you can eat a turd
This may not be pol but you ain't above criticism, fuck off coalburner.

Can we please return to the topic of dog torturing and kiddo-shagging? And the type of justice they deserve?

Somehow that topic is more palatable, then trying to reason with somebody who considers many of us to be a cancer.

Consider is not the appropiate word, because it implies he may be wrong.
You are a cancer. That's an empirical fact, not an hypothetical opinion.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Why then? Why do blacks consistently do worse in every single metric no matter what their socioeconomic status is? Rich blacks are shittier than rich whites, poor blacks and poor whites same story. What could possibly make that a reality besides them just being worse?

Go live in an inner city for a while. From my experience everyone that sings this same kumbaya "why can't everyone just get along?" horseshit is predominantly from the suburbs. Dude, I grew up the only white kid on my street, surrounded by niggers, I went to a black school system, where I was mercilessly TORTURED for a decade. Somehow I'm the only person that emerged from my graduating class and made something of themselves, even though every single one of those fucking gorilla nigger animals qualified for a free 4 year ride to a state school. No. They aren't people. They're subhuman scum.

Go walk around downtown St. Louis and spread your white guilt gospel horseshit to the poor white kids trying to just survive there.

While the National Guard was in Ferguson they should've gone to the north side of the metro and fucking leveled it with all the souls still inside. Would've done the world a favor.

You underestimate the world view, and life--experiences of the folks you are addressing.

I, for one grew up in St. Louis, but back in the day. I was a tiny little white girl around 1984 when the U-City School system desegregated, overnight. Suddenly my Lilly white world turned into a sea of black faces, and these kids were rough and tough. Trust me, I had been bullied by plenty of white kids, and by my own damn white family, and white boys who lived down the street who told me they wanted to beat me and throw me in a dumpster. And now I was witnessing a whole level of violence. I was hated by black principals and administrators. I came home and heard all this confusion and hatred in my own neighborhood.

So any sob story you have about Blacks doesn't capiche, young man. Learn to fuckin deal, and get a clue. I, for one, have been victimized mainly by whites, because those are the people who happen to be around me. If you live around Blacks, odds are, you will be victimized by blacks.

And you know what I have learned 30 years after the fact? I talk to everybody. Blacks, whites, Jews, Arabs, Chinese, etc. I'll talk to you if you are standing on the corner dressed in nothing but a dirty adult diaper. There is no "white guilt gospel" it is simply addressing a person by their name, and relating to them as a human being.

But as I am a member of the human race, you call negroes, Jews etc a cancer, you are calling Me a cancer too. Not that I care. I'll talk to you and your buddies just the same.

I have had enough of this.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

You underestimate the world view, and life--experiences of the folks you are addressing.

I, for one grew up in St. Louis, but back in the day. I was a tiny little white girl around 1984 when the U-City School system desegregated, overnight. Suddenly my Lilly white world turned into a sea of black faces, and these kids were rough and tough. Trust me, I had been bullied by plenty of white kids, and by my own damn white family, and white boys who lived down the street who told me they wanted to beat me and throw me in a dumpster. And now I was witnessing a whole level of violence. I was hated by black principals and administrators. I came home and heard all this confusion and hatred in my own neighborhood.

So any sob story you have about Blacks doesn't capiche, young man. Learn to fuckin deal, and get a clue. I, for one, have been victimized mainly by whites, because those are the people who happen to be around me. If you live around Blacks, odds are, you will be victimized by blacks.

And you know what I have learned 30 years after the fact? I talk to everybody. Blacks, whites, Jews, Arabs, Chinese, etc. I'll talk to you if you are standing on the corner dressed in nothing but a dirty adult diaper. There is no "white guilt gospel" it is simply addressing a person by their name, and relating to them as a human being.

But as I am a member of the human race, you call negroes, Jews etc a cancer, you are calling Me a cancer too. Not that I care. I'll talk to you and your buddies just the same.

I have had enough of this.

Lmao I don't believe you. Awfully convenient to grow up in the same place and just have the exact opposite experience I had. Statistically blacks are the most racist people in the US. You're white knighting for people that fucking hate you. Stop pretending that humanity doesn't have teams. It's awfully convenient that everyone is allowed to have their little pride rallies and group identities except for whites. I bet you wouldn't talk this much shit to a Hutu who just got done hacking off his Tutsi neighbor's hands.

 

[AltisticRight]

OP isn't wrong but legit autistic as fuck. I know I am pretty late here. I do not understand how I fucking missed it! I will take this as a late Christmas miracle. God does exist and he will smite this vile spawn.

Most people wanting this sick fuck dead is saying so out of despise and emotion. This disgusting pedozoo kike goes far far beyond what most would consider the "norm of human decency", even for furfags and paedophiles. That's why people want him hung. Most aren't expressing their desires to have laws moulded in their favour just to see sacks of human shit like this swinging from a tree, nobody really gives a fuck about the feasibility and philosophy of capital punishment.

Innocent animals, they are beings with no conceptual knowledge of how horrible the human race can be. Many consider baby animals if not most animals pure in some way, the same when it comes to infants. Babies bring out the best in us, even those who don't like screaming and crying babies will understand tolerance when they actually see the infant -- unless you're Maddox.

To not only condone the harming of animals which no matter what skin colour and ideology, many have emotions attached, but to also exploit one's own relative just for some sick sadistic zoo fantasy is far beyond what most sane people can grasp. Look, I did my duty in translating some of the shit, and some sick Chinese furries decided they would leave the deviant bunch. Asians aren't exactly known for sympathy towards animals, just take a day tour in certain parts of Guangzhou... squirrels and peacocks, even cats and yes, dogs as well. Wanna up this? Dolphin/whale sashimi, shark fin, horse meat... I'm certain the Zoosadists opened the eyes of many, we might have thought murder and rape is disgusting enough. Not downplaying either, but the graphical impact of zoosadists such as Levi is just revolting.

Upon learning about his prosecution, most will just toss this rational mindset out of the window. Can you blame them? He's an absolute sickfuck that probably redefined what a degenerate is in 2019 for many. We understand the logistics and slippery slope of capital punishment, but don't expect anyone to actually empathise with these zoosadist creeps. Who cares about the cost or hypocrisy of capital punishment when some kid fucking animal abuser is going to swing from a tree? Why would anyone make these arguments when they can simply smirk at the death of an absolutely abhorrent being? I personally lean pretty far towards rehabilitation justice, probably because most crimes aren't that bad. I do not like capital punishment for reasons the OP stated and logistics, but I won't argue for or against it [upon learning about his arrest]. I'm simply smiling because this sick fuck is going to either become the cum dumpster in jail for all Eternity, or eat a bullet and yiff on Satan's lap.

This isn't a matter of race or ideology anymore, everyone can rejoice and laugh at this sick fuck's gloomy future. Now let's talk about how a particular tribe is over-represented in zoosadism... jk I'll smash my brains out

By the way, lifetime imprisonment is far more brutal, allowing the criminal to endure far more suffering is my argument towards those who argue purely in favour of punitive justice. Those who are against capital punishment should not use this line of reasoning. Lifetime imprisonment for rapists and paedophiles is way more inhumane than just letting them eat a bullet or take a needle. Why have them shot when Tyrone and Jamal and the entire cell block will come up with any means possible to make their lives an absolute epitome of hell, oh and it's fucking cheaper as well; isn't this the best of two worlds? If they can't be rehabilitated, their chrysanthemum can at least be remoulded into the fucking Bermuda Triangle. It's not ships being lost here, my man.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Lmao I don't believe you. Awfully convenient to grow up in the same place and just have the exact opposite experience I had. Statistically blacks are the most racist people in the US. You're white knighting for people that fucking hate you. Stop pretending that humanity doesn't have teams. It's awfully convenient that everyone is allowed to have their little pride rallies and group identities except for whites. I bet you wouldn't talk this much shit to a Hutu who just got done hacking off his Tutsi neighbor's hands.

I did grow up in St. Louis. I did not have the opposite experience as yours. My point was, I took it from everybody, not just blacks. The blackfolks I encountered were no saints. Fack no. Some were extremely violent. And I know that a lot of Blackfolks hate me. But not all of them do. And I did not say that I haven't been their prey, because I have, a lot. But generalizing my negative experiences with some, to my dealings with individuals, is a logical fallacy and is counter-productive.

That is sort of like imagine a red-head totally screws you over financially. Then you benevolantly allow another red-head into your life, and she cheats on you. Are you going to hate all red-head?

I am probably old enough to be your mother, and I don't live in the area anymore. I just think, for the sake of your own sanity, calm down before you turn yourself into a target. Or snap and go postal.

I just have a different perspective, trust me, hard work to "grow it." And I am not white knighting for the sake of Black folks. They don't need it. Frankly my concern is more for you.

Of course humanity has teams. But it isn't a winner takes it all, thing. Looking back, life would have been more pleasant and liveable at certain junctures had I not been so racist.

When you said that you were from St. Louis, your point of view became a bit more real to me.

I recently commented on a thread about a shooting there over New Year's, on this forum. Look there, if you want more proof. In fact check my profile I got lots of posts on race and you will see that I am not a militant leftist.

Think of it this way, too ... sure homosexuals can March around downtown in their Daisy Dukes with a sub on a chain under a rainbow flag, but so what? Is that something that you want to do? Etc etc.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Because studying the past allows us to learn more about the present. Here's how you can apply it here:
-In 1920's America, there was a large impoverished underclass consisting of Italians, Germans, and Irishmen who were often seen as social inferiors and struggled to make ends meet. They made up the bulk of the criminal classes in that period. As education rates rose and social discrimination against these groups fell, crime rates in that group also fell.
-In modern-day America, there is a large impoverished underclass consisting of African-Americans and Hispanics that are often seen as social inferiors and struggle to make ends meet. They make up the bulk of the criminal classes today. Long-term outcome studies show that the more educated AA or Hispanic persons are, the less likely they are to commit crimes.

I would also suggest studying historical attempts to enact genocide on sizable ethnic minorities in a country, particularly on how logistically-difficult that is and how doing so is near-universally condemned.

The poorest white area in the US has a lower crime rate than the richest black area in the US.

> Long-term outcome studies show that the more educated AA or Hispanic persons are, the less likely they are to commit crimes.

Which is more likely to be true? That having money, and an education will make you not be a criminal if you already are one, or that not shanking your classmates in the school bathroom will lead to you not being able to make money, and have an education?


Furthermore, your line about the US having a "lower gun violence rate when it was more homogeneous," is a joke. You didn't have major ethnic change in the US until 1965. Obviously, this means that it was more homogeneous all the way up to that point. You had increases in the crime rates prior to that, but it's pretty obvious why you had those increases, and it wasn't because the US was "too white."

To the "they feel socially inferior" meme, ignoring the fact that if anything, non-whites are now at least socially privileged in the US, given how they are permitted to advocate for themselves while whites are forbidden from doing so; you also have to look at examples of situations where they're clearly not being "kept down by dah white man." I'm pretty sure Hispanics are not "social outcasts" in central, and south America, but pretty much every place there is a crime infested shithole. This, also clearly holds true for Africa.

 

[Stoneheart]

Im against that! there is a better solution called forced labour.

 

[Non-Expert!]

OP isn't wrong but legit autistic as fuck. I know I am pretty late here. I do not understand how I fucking missed it! I will take this as a late Christmas miracle. God does exist and he will smite this vile spawn.

Most people wanting this sick fuck dead is saying so out of despise and emotion. This disgusting pedozoo kike goes far far beyond what most would consider the "norm of human decency", even for furfags and paedophiles. That's why people want him hung. Most aren't expressing their desires to have laws moulded in their favour just to see sacks of human shit like this swinging from a tree, nobody really gives a fuck about the feasibility and philosophy of capital punishment.

Innocent animals, they are beings with no conceptual knowledge of how horrible the human race can be. Many consider baby animals if not most animals pure in some way, the same when it comes to infants. Babies bring out the best in us, even those who don't like screaming and crying babies will understand tolerance when they actually see the infant -- unless you're Maddox.

To not only condone the harming of animals which no matter what skin colour and ideology, many have emotions attached, but to also exploit one's own relative just for some sick sadistic zoo fantasy is far beyond what most sane people can grasp. Look, I did my duty in translating some of the shit, and some sick Chinese furries decided they would leave the deviant bunch. Asians aren't exactly known for sympathy towards animals, just take a day tour in certain parts of Guangzhou... squirrels and peacocks, even cats and yes, dogs as well. Wanna up this? Dolphin/whale sashimi, shark fin, horse meat... I'm certain the Zoosadists opened the eyes of many, we might have thought murder and rape is disgusting enough. Not downplaying either, but the graphical impact of zoosadists such as Levi is just revolting.

Upon learning about his prosecution, most will just toss this rational mindset out of the window. Can you blame them? He's an absolute sickfuck that probably redefined what a degenerate is in 2019 for many. We understand the logistics and slippery slope of capital punishment, but don't expect anyone to actually empathise with these zoosadist creeps. Who cares about the cost or hypocrisy of capital punishment when some kid fucking animal abuser is going to swing from a tree? Why would anyone make these arguments when they can simply smirk at the death of an absolutely abhorrent being? I personally lean pretty far towards rehabilitation justice, probably because most crimes aren't that bad. I do not like capital punishment for reasons the OP stated and logistics, but I won't argue for or against it [upon learning about his arrest]. I'm simply smiling because this sick fuck is going to either become the cum dumpster in jail for all Eternity, or eat a bullet and yiff on Satan's lap.

This isn't a matter of race or ideology anymore, everyone can rejoice and laugh at this sick fuck's gloomy future. Now let's talk about how a particular tribe is over-represented in zoosadism... jk I'll smash my brains out

By the way, lifetime imprisonment is far more brutal, allowing the criminal to endure far more suffering is my argument towards those who argue purely in favour of punitive justice. Those who are against capital punishment should not use this line of reasoning. Lifetime imprisonment for rapists and paedophiles is way more inhumane than just letting them eat a bullet or take a needle. Why have them shot when Tyrone and Jamal and the entire cell block will come up with any means possible to make their lives an absolute epitome of hell, oh and it's fucking cheaper as well; isn't this the best of two worlds? If they can't be rehabilitated, their chrysanthemum can at least be remoulded into the fucking Bermuda Triangle. It's not ships being lost here, my man.

Levi IS an exceptionally horrifying criminal.

If this is a matter of what HE deserves ...[edited out because too violent]

However, that is kind of against the law. We sort of have to go with the existing system.

What happened to the OP?

 

[Vince McMahon]

Guys, @NotSendingTheirBest is not even responding.

I don't, not only because I already said what I think but also because I don't really enjoy being called autistic en masse by people who instantly assume that just because I express myself a certain way - I'm a smug fedora-tipping know-it-all jack-off and I must be knighting for a zoosadist and a paedophile. Oh, and the fact that majority of you clamour for blood purportedly out of emotion but it's nothing more than a rage of a righteous busybody. Anyone who wants to institute capital punishment must be forced to do it on the people State deems to be worthy of the punishment. I'm pretty sure after that only actual psychopaths will remain.

Life imprisonment is harsh but it remains the only possible option for someone to retain their health and wits, if they turn out to be not guilty.

So yeah, fuck you, you "righteously offended".