Debate user "Sage In All Fields" on if men should want to fuck 14-year-olds

[Ultrapenguin]

I will never understand why pedos can’t understand how creepy they are with these diatribes over it being okay to oogle kids. It is fucking weird and off putting.

Right, the thing that gets me is the part where these types need everyone else to approve of it or find a way to justify it.

To me that's very much a demonstration of the core of people who obsess over the topic. It isn't just that they desperately want to bang teenagers, they also need it to be recognized as a totally sensible, moral, and almost heroic act.

That's why they're obsessed with teenagers to begin with, they're weird insecure narcissists.
They have to go around in circles and make up excuses when the real reason is probably that they're broke, live with their parents, lack social confidence, and generally have no faith in their masculinity or ability to operate as an adult; therefore they want to find young girls because they identify with their immaturity, insecurity, and lack of socioeconomic establishment.

I know individuals like this have a reason for being the way they are, but that doesn't change anything. Internalize the fact you suck and either learn some humility, stop sucking, or kill yourself. Don't try to hide from the truth by creeping around after 14 year olds and spending your days justifying it to protect your fragile ego.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Right, the thing that gets me is the part where these types need everyone else to approve of it or find a way to justify it.

I think they enjoy making others uncomfortable. People like them get off on coming somewhere and declaring: "Yes, I'm a pedophile, there is nothing you can do about it."

 

[MrsNekrosias]

I will never understand why pedos can’t understand how creepy they are with these diatribes over it being okay to oogle kids. It is fucking weird and off putting.

It gets to the point that debating them becomes this circular mindfuckery BS where no one wins. If someone doesn't understand how fucking a child is immoral and disgusting, there's no hope for them in society.

Your brain on feminism


If a women has completed puberty then it's normal for men to be sexually attracted to her.


Sources vary, generally almost all women have finished puberty by age 16 and so many girls finish puberty at age 15 or even 14.

None of this explains why it's rational/moral to fuck a child.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Look if you need to spend excess effort to say ‘lol it is cool to want to fuck 14 year olds when you are 35’ then it just proves you failed to attract women of your own age and there is a reason why.

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

About 10% of men are attracted to pre-pubescent girls

It's closer to 33% according to previous studies (link). You can tell everyone how much you hate pedophiles all you want but between Epstein blackmailing the entire spectrum of wealthy Americans with footage/pics of child abuse & age of consent barely existing in most countries it seems obvious a lot of men (maybe 1 in 3) are actually just pedos.

 

[ITK]

It's closer to 33% according to previous studies (link). You can tell everyone how much you hate pedophiles all you want but between Epstein blackmailing the entire spectrum of wealthy Americans with footage/pics of child abuse & age of consent barely existing in most countries it seems obvious a lot of men (maybe 1 in 3) are actually just pedos.

That study does not say that 33% (I don't know where you got that number) of men have the sexual-pathological disorder of pedophilia, it says that about 26% of the men experienced penile arousal from pedophilic stimuli. The study itself points out that this arousal does not necessarily correspond to pedophilic behaviour, and there are a number of ways to interpret this data:

The slide and audiotape data combined suggest that most normal men are not sexually aroused by nude female children per se, but that some men who report no pedophilic activity are sexually aroused when a female child is depicted as enjoying sexual activity with an adult male. Consenting heterosexual activity, independent of the maturity of the partner, is sexually arousing to some men. However, although the current subjects' arousal to consenting stimuli involving children was significantly greater than their arousal to contrast stimuli, their arousal to consenting stimuli involving children was significantly less than their arousal to consenting stimuli involving adults.

Another factor is this:

The hypothesis that sexual arousal to pedophilic stimuli is a function of general sexual arousability factors was supported by the positive correlation of pedophilic with adult heterosexual arousal, particularly in the physiological data. Subjects who were highly arousable, insofar as they were unable to voluntarily and completely inhibit their sexual arousal, were more sexually aroused by all stimuli than were subjects who were unable to inhibit their sexual arousal.

Most experts seem to think the actual number of pedophiles in the population is around 2% (link). Another fun fact: despite homosexuals making up something like 2% of the population, 33% of of sex offenders against children are gainst male children.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Only a pedo, a coomer or an incel would desire a teenager

When I was a teenager, I fucked teenage girls. And also an older woman who lived up the street.

or generally a zoomer

Agree.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

When I was a teenager, I fucked teenage girls

Sure, omitted teens because fucking people your age isn't controversial

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Was anyone even remotely surprised Boxershorts showed up in this thread?

 

[Dread First]

Let me posit unto the paedophiles and ephebophiles of this thread a question:

Q: Have you ever actually been in a situation where you, an adult male, legitimately mistook a minor for an adult? (male or female)

Most of us, whether we want to admit it or not, have been in a situation like that. It can be as simple as mistaking a teenage boy with an overactive pituitary gland as a 21-year-old when he buys beer on your shift, or it can be ripped straight out of an anime where a girl who developed early gets a ton of unwanted male attention. Either way, any situation involving an adult mistaking a child for a minor (in good faith) is fucking uncomfortable to most rational people.

If you're a customer service worker, ringing up a transaction for a minor involving age-restricted items (even accidentally) is an easy way to get fired. Those types of scenarios are basically legal nightmares for your employer if anyone catches that, and management needs to be proactive to ensure that whenever the audit comes, they have their asses covered. If you've ever been in high school, you know damn well there will always be at least one super tall kid with a baritone voice and a full beard before he turns 18.

On the opposite end, being an adult male and finding out the chick you approached at a party is underage is a mortifying experience. Assuming I give this scenario the maximum benefit of the doubt possible (meaning no ill-intentions once the age is clearly established), there are several layers to break this down:

• You (the man) allowed yourself to enter a headspace where you let lust overtake your reasoning.
• You (the man) lustfully approached this person (teenage girl), and it wasn't until they established their age when you backed the fuck off.
• Even if you backed off and have no further lustful thoughts after the fact, it doesn't change the fact that you lusted after a teenage girl, and you have to live with that mortifying revelation.
• You now exist in that person's memory as a lustful degenerate who shows no respect for boundaries unless it is blatantly illegal.
• An uncomfortable thought: if she is legal, would that excuse your lustful behaviour as you approached her?
• If that type of lustful behaviour is unacceptable toward minors, why the fuck is it acceptable toward adult women?

I could keep going on, but I think I made the point clear.

 

[blacksun]

That study does not say that 33% (I don't know where you got that number) of men have the sexual-pathological disorder of pedophilia, it says that about 26% of the men experienced penile arousal from pedophilic stimuli. The study itself points out that this arousal does not necessarily correspond to pedophilic behaviour, and there are a number of ways to interpret this data:

Another factor is this:

Most experts seem to think the actual number of pedophiles in the population is around 2% (link). Another fun fact: despite homosexuals making up something like 2% of the population, 33% of of sex offenders against children are gainst male children.

IIRC, most men who rape little boys are straight, the reasoning is because little boys are the closest to little girls and because they speak up less. Only 21 percent of the child molesters we studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own." Im a christian, but I know that theres a reason why its little boys, and why people go after them. These men do not like adult men for a reason.. It has to do with boys speaking up less, again.

https://www.zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

If it's including men in general (and not just boys), then its 98%.

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I hate faggots and all, but still.

 

[blacksun]

One last thing..
FACT: Not everyone who sexually abuses children is a pedophile.
Child sexual abuse is perpetrated by a wide range of individuals with diverse motivations. It is impossible to
identify specific characteristics that are common to all those who molest children.
• Situational offenders tend to offend at times of stress and begin offending later than pedophilic offenders.
• They also have fewer victims (often family), and have a general preference for adult partners. 16
• Pedophilic offenders often start offending at an early age, and often have a large number of victims
(frequently not family members). 16
• 70% of child sex offenders have between one and 9 victims, while 20% have 10 to 40 victims.

https://www.d2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/all_statistics_20150619.pdf

If you have no morals when it comes to hebes and whatever, I fear what happens as a last resort. You can lie about your morals as much as you want, but just know that not all people who offend on children are pedophiles, meaning that its possible you will get worse. I would be very wary if I were you. One day, you will act on it. You are already on your way to defending it.

Here's another thing, you are deeply desensitized and need to fucking work on it. Desensitization may be one of the most dangerous consequences of violence exposure because it is believed to lead to violence perpetration and additional violence exposure as youth begin to experience emotional numbing, view violence as normative, and lose inhibitions about using violent behavior.

Examining the Effects of Emotional and Cognitive Desensitization to Community Violence Exposure in Male Adolescents of Color

The current study examined pathways in a model of desensitization, the Pathologic Adaptation Model, in adolescent males of color. Specifically, the current study examined depressive symptoms and deviant beliefs as mediators of the association between ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Tell me, what the fuck is stopping you from a child? Morals? You already proved yourself wrong by implying that morals is subjective. Your lust controls you, and you need to fucking repent.

 

[Table Country]

How many debate user threads do we have at this point that are just nonces trying to justify fucking teenagers?

 

[Stardust]

How many debate user threads do we have at this point that are just nonces trying to justify fucking teenagers?

Sadly, a number higher than they want to fuck.

 

[ITK]

IIRC, most men who rape little boys are straight, the reasoning is because little boys are the closest to little girls and because they speak up less. Only 21 percent of the child molesters we studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own." Im a christian, but I know that theres a reason why its little boys, and why people go after them. These men do not like adult men for a reason.. It has to do with boys speaking up less, again.

https://www.zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/

If it's including men in general (and not just boys), then its 98%.

Facts About Men & Rape - YWCA Missoula

Welcome to YWCA Missoula, where we come together in the name of helping more of Missoula thrive. We invite you to find your place, wherever that happens to be, among us.

www.ywcamissoula.org

I hate faggots and all, but still.

In the study I cited, they determined the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was around 11:1, compared to the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals in the wider population being 49:1, that's a pretty big overrepresentation, isn't it? Anyway, let's be honest here, if you take it up the bum in an alleyway and they strap you up to some penis-testing machine determines that you're actually heterosexual, I'm not gonna care. You're a homo. Why would it be any different when it comes to little boys?

 

[TayandYou]

How many debate user threads do we have at this point that are just nonces trying to justify fucking teenagers?

Just looking at mass debates there's 2 or 3 active threads debating the age of consent. A&H is truly the last refuge of the adult men who are bizarrely obsessed with the sexual agency of 15 year old girls.

At this point it might be worth collating all of them into one megathread.

 

[blacksun]

whoops, dk how to delete this

 

[blacksun]

In the study I cited, they determined the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was around 11:1, compared to the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals in the wider population being 49:1, that's a pretty big overrepresentation, isn't it? Anyway, let's be honest here, if you take it up the bum in an alleyway and they strap you up to some penis-testing machine determines that you're actually heterosexual, I'm not gonna care. You're a homo. Why would it be any different when it comes to little boys?

Because they dont like it in the ass, they like doing it to others in the ass, thats the thing, Im pretty sure. We all know why they go after little boys, we all know its because little boys speak up less, its why when it comes to actual child marriage, girls take up 92% of it. If little girls were legal or were less cared for in news, that many little boys wouldnt get molested. Its a power thing for them, lol. Has nothing to do with bits, its because they are the closest thing to what they want. Denying that is absurd. I fucking loathe faggots, but you cant seriously deny that little boys mainly get raped by faggots. Rape is a power thing. Why do you think corrective rape on lesbians exist? To "convert them", etc. Rape to coombrained pedophiles is about power. Its about getting the "easier target", that is quite literally what a predator does. This idea that it cant be non faggots is what hurts male victims, since it implies theyre a faggot/cant speak up/nobody would believe them if a heterosexual married man rapes him.

On victims:​

• A 2003 study showed that 84% of male survivors reported concerns about their sexuality, gender roles and/or body as a result of their experience (ACSSA, 2003, p. 16). This differs significantly from the responses of women survivors of sexual assault, who do not report comparable impacts on their own perceptions of their gender or sexuality.
• Male survivors have reported high rates of fear that they will not be believed or taken seriously if they report the offence (ACSSA, 2003, p. 16).
• Male American college students reported that a strong barrier to reporting sexual assault was a concern that they would be judged as gay (Sable, Danis, Mauzy, & Gallaghar, 2006, p. 157)
  
  
  

• On cultural responses:​

  • A number of studies have shown that, in comparison to heterosexual male victims, gay male victims of sexual assault are more likely to be assumed responsible for their assault (Davies & Rogers, 2006, p. 372). Respondents in other studies speculated that gay men might find sexual assault a "more pleasurable event" and that they would not be as traumatised by such an assault as heterosexual men (Mitchell, Hirshman & Nagayama-Hall, 1999).
  • Because of the cultural assumptions surrounding sexuality and heterosexual sex, heterosexual male victims of a female perpetrator of a sexual assault are more likely to be thought to have encouraged the assault than gay male victims of a female perpetrator or heterosexual male victims of a male perpetrator.
    
    
    
  • Only gay men rape other men" and "only gay men are raped":
    • Sexual assault is perpetrated by both heterosexual and gay men against men of either sexual orientation (Mitchell, Hirshman, & Nagayama-Hall, 1999, p. 369). Misconceptions around the sexuality of these roles are based on assumptions similar to those associated with female sexual assault, in which sexual assault is understood to be primarily motivated by sexual attraction and sexual desire. However, sexual assault is actually motivated by a desire to have power over another person. It is perhaps more useful to think of these acts as physical assault with a sexual element.
      
      

      Community beliefs and misconceptions about male sexual assault

      Outlines four central assumptions concerning male sexual assault, and we identify research and data that dispel these assumptions

      aifs.gov.au

I believe most fags are pedos, but its absurd to think that the high about of boys getting raped is mostly perpetuated by faggots when faggots are not that high of a percentage. Remember, gays are only 1-2% of the world. Im saying this as someone who had male friends who were raped by straight men when my friends were very young. We could castrate all fags, but that wouldnt stop the still alarming rates of boy victims.

tl;dr: "all faggots are boy rapists, but not all boy rapists are faggots"

 

[Kiwisee]

It’s been a month since the groomer last posted on the farms.

What a faggot.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Thats a lot of words to tell everyone you're a fucking chomo.
Literally the only niggers Ive seen making the pedo/ephebe/hebe/whatthefuck distinction are fucking sick fucks.
If theres grass on the field play ball might have been the standard in Mohammeds day but so was a huge mortality rate and kids that young giving birth often died in the process, civilized people tend to look down on sick fucks thinking with their dicks.
Its predatory, have you seen how fucking retarded young teenagers are?
An adult has nothing in common with them.
You want to make that your standard thats on you, just don't be surprised when you get called a nonce, you nonce.