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https://kiwifarms.net/threads/debat...een-a-femboi-and-a-troon.186630/post-17987577 Two full pages and counting (lord forgive me for contributing) @SSj_Ness since you have so much to say on the topic maybe do it here so we can laugh at that fictopedo on-topic again.
But what difference does it make if you hunt and eat your kill or not? Does eating it somehow justify the pleasure of the hunt? Or should hunters be monitored to ensure they don't like it too much, attaching facial sensors to detect if their mask of stoicism falters?
This seems very arbitrary. Either killing the animal is wrong or not. The difference between going to prison and winning a hunting competition shouldn't be whether you eat it or crack a smile.
We're inherently more valuable. From an Atheistic perspective we're more intelligent and higher up the food chain, it's the natural order, so we have more value. From a Christian perspective we're also more valuable because God set us above animals.
This is essentially to equate cats and people then. Different degrees of crime deserve different punishments. So if you steal a candy bar you get a slap on the wrist, you kill somebody and you get life in prison/death. If you jail someone for life over the candy bar too then you're not setting a moral distinction between the acts.
If there was a cat and a baby in a burning building and you could only save one, which would it be and why?
People with pet pigs wouldn't agree cats are any more valuable than their cute little piggies, conceding only that their choice of pet likely tastes better (not sure if pet pig breeds even taste good), which shouldn't detract from its value as a pet.
But that's a legal perspective. Morally, either killing the pig is wrong or it's not, whether you're eating it or just got tired of seeing it.
You wouldn't trust a hunter...? I mean a farmer is essentially a hunter on easy mode, do you trust farmers? I suspect a lot of them probably enjoy their work too, probably even take pride in it.
Remember, we don't need to eat meat, killing animals is not necessary. Veganism isn't truly viable, but vegetarianism is a healthy, sustainable long-term diet. If you aren't a vegetarian then I find this to be hypocritical.
It's an arbitrary distinction and matter of opinion as to what exactly constitutes a pest, and you'll find plenty who think they shouldn't be killed. Ask PETA.
So let me get this straight. If someone kills a wild cat you give them a thumbs up, but if it's a domesticated cat then they are subjected to Saw film style tortures? Am I understanding this correctly?
But why is it fine? As established, this is not necessary, so these kills are simply borne of desire, not need.
To put it concisely, you're saying taking pleasure in eating an animal you didn't need to kill is fine, but only if don't take pleasure in the kill itself. However, if the animal is so valuable then we shouldn't needlessly kill it solely for the pleasure of eating it, right? I don't see how that's much better.
Complex mating rituals do exist in nature, so does rape, so that doesn't change anything.
Consenting faggotry is slightly less immoral, but my point was it at least served a natural purpose. If you're into moral relativism then I'd expect you to appreciate it considering you wouldn't be here right now otherwise. Consequentialism is tied up with moral relavitism, after all.
They're killed and spayed/neutered constantly at the pound to no societal detriment because we have an excess of them. I heard there's so many cats they're killing off too many birds actually.
These animals do serve a purpose in society, I never denied it, I love dogs and have one. But my only point was they're not nearly as valuable as humans. It's a valuation dispute basically.
An innocent human life is infinitely more valuable than any animal's, even a nigger's, but I'm not sure I'd be able to bring myself to actually do it. It'd be the right thing to do but that doesn't mean I could.
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