Debate Why The Right Stuff / The Daily Shoah / Fash The Nation Is Based or Cringe - The interminable discussion relating to the (de)merits of everyone's favorite Nazi/WN podcasters and their influence on American politics

[DirtyDDisagrees]

You don't know who benefits? You are dumb as fuck.

ok, who benefits and how?

 

[Niggergante]

I had completely forgotten these websites existed so cringe

 

[AgendaPoster]

I shouldn't let the thread devolve into political sperging. I only brough it up because it's central to why I think TRS is cringe.

The whole thread is political sperging.
It's impossible to debate the title and impossible to discuss the group without politics.
I am very puzzled about the "apolitical" aims of large parts of KF, I understand the reason behind it, I just don't think it's possible.
"laughing at retards" for example is implicitly a far right political thing to do, and I should not have to explain why.

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

Ukraine isn't Europe. Never was.

Nigger, how the fuck is Russia in Europe but Ukraine isn't? dumbest of takes

 

[AgendaPoster]

Ukraine isn't Europe. Never was.

America is the enemy. It's government specifically with a number of interested parties thrown in.

You didn't give a fuck when the USA bombed Serbia either so your "oh what about the white people " is literally goncern trolling. You don't give two fucks about white people.

You're a dumb idiot.
I was just threadbanned from the pro-Ukraine thread because I dared make 2 posts that said Kosovo is Serbia's.
Some of us are actually intellectually consistent.

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

The whole thread is political sperging.
It's impossible to debate the title and impossible to discuss the group without politics.
I am very puzzled about the "apolitical" aims of large parts of KF, I understand the reason behind it, I just don't think it's possible.
"laughing at retards" for example is implicitly a far right political thing to do, and I should not have to explain why.

True, the whole debate about TRS is a political one, but the thread itself should be somewhat confined to that topic. There are other threads that debate the war. I don't think it's about being apolitical as much as it is just not shitting up the whole thread

I had completely forgotten these websites existed so cringe

that's the general consensus I get everywhere I go. These guys will tell you up and down that they ARE white nationalism and they're the only game in town but most WNs seem to hate them, think they're gay, or don't know they exist.

 

[mrolonzo]

ok, who benefits and how?

NATO. It reduced Putin's ability to use the possibility of energy supply to encourage his opposition to come to terms. This helps the Ukraine war effort while harming Europe.

I had completely forgotten these websites existed so cringe

...mm ok vaush...

The whole thread is political sperging.
It's impossible to debate the title and impossible to discuss the group without politics.
I am very puzzled about the "apolitical" aims of large parts of KF, I understand the reason behind it, I just don't think it's possible.
"laughing at retards" for example is implicitly a far right political thing to do, and I should not have to explain why.

Apolitical is a nonsense term used by the jaded gossip mongers.

Nigger, how the fuck is Russia in Europe but Ukraine isn't? dumbest of takes

Russia isn't in Europe either. Thus lack of historic EU membership.

You're a dumb idiot.
I was just threadbanned from the pro-Ukraine thread because I dared make 2 posts that said Kosovo is Serbia's.
Some of us are actually intellectually consistent.

Oh so you're pro white, but don't want some whites to have a problem with other whites over land and political affiliations and fight over it. Is that it?

Did you forget that Russia isn't attacking Ukraine because Ukrainians are white?

True, the whole debate about TRS is a political one, but the thread itself should be somewhat confined to that topic. There are other threads that debate the war. I don't think it's about being apolitical as much as it is just not shitting up the whole thread

Ok. But these differences over TRS stem from other deeper differences. Be it tactics or world outlook. We generally call those right wingers who oppose our side racist liberals. Degenerate scum in other words but there we are.

that's the general consensus I get everywhere I go. These guys will tell you up and down that they ARE white nationalism and they're the only game in town but most WNs seem to hate them, think they're gay, or don't know they exist.

If that's true you shouldn't have any problems showing us your protests, your barn speeches, your mass meetings.

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

It reduced Putin's ability to use the possibility of energy supply to encourage his opposition to come to terms

NATO had been pushing for Ukraine to come to the peace table for months before and after the destruction of the pipeline. That didn't really change until November when the Ukrainians took back Kherson. I suppose you think that's all Kayfabe?
*edit: I had initially said "bombing" but since that isn't proven I changed it

Russia isn't in Europe either. Thus lack of historic EU membership

I guess Switzerland and Norway aren't Europe either. Does your grasp of European history begin in 1917?

If that's true you shouldn't have any problems showing us your protests, your barn speeches, your mass meetings.

That's a non-sequitur. I don't have to picket an empty building at 11am on a saturday when no one is there in order to assess that you guys aren't popular outside of your own circles. You're more like a cult

 

[mrolonzo]

NATO had been pushing for Ukraine to come to the peace table for months before and after the bombing of the pipeline. That didn't really change until November when the Ukrainians took back Kherson. I suppose you think that's all Kayfabe?

I guess Switzerland and Norway aren't Europe either. Does your grasp of European history begin in 1917?

That's a non-sequitur. I don't have to picket an empty building at 11am on a saturday when no one is there in order to assess that you guys aren't popular outside of your own circles. You're more like a cult

1/ Ah yes pushing for peace while supplying it for offence. That old trick. And now we have the ex pm of the UK actively pursuing jet giveaways because "we're going to give the Ukrainians what they want sooner or later anyway so let's just give them it now. "No need for any kayfabe.

2/ These countries are directly in Europe, just not in the member organisation. Russia is neither. So, no, Russia is not Europe. Never has been.

3/ Dude, that's just highlighting the point. Faggots like you and your friends couldn't even protest an empty building if you wanted to.

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

Ah yes pushing for peace while supplying it for offence

supplying it for offence

offence

you really are retarded.

These countries are directly in Europe, just not in the member organisation. Russia is neither. So, no, Russia is not Europe. Never has been

where does Europe start and stop for you?

you and your friends couldn't even protest an empty building if you wanted to

literally ANYONE can do that, what would be the point? This is not the own you think it is.

 

[mrolonzo]

you really are retarded.

where does Europe start and stop for you?

literally ANYONE can do that, what would be the point? This is not the own you think it is.

1/ Ah yes. Give them weapons for defence then congratulations are in order when they take donbass?

2/ Tradition dictates its within the area of the Roman catholic church, but also a rough area further east. If you were to include Russia then Europe would therefore extend past Mongolia. Does that sound right to you?

3/ It really is the own. Are you saying that you guys could organize a protest to stand up for your people? Or are you too cool? Are you waiting for that special moment?

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

Give them weapons for defence then congratulations are in order when they take donbass?

You know that donbass is part of Ukraine, right? internationally recognized by the entire world except Russia and some communist separatists, including all of Russia's allies in this war.

If you were to include Russia then Europe would therefore extend past Mongolia

I've always understood the eastern border of Europe to be the Ural mountains. Russia territory east of there is all territory they conquered. to include Mongolia would be to say that India was part of Europe when it was the British Raj. Russia's empire spans two continents.

Are you saying that you guys could organize a protest to stand up for your people

I'm saying that anyone can protest an empty building with no opposition, so yes I'm certain I could get enough white guys to do that but none of that has any bearing on my original point, which is that white nationalists generally don't like you guys.

 

[mrolonzo]

You know that donbass is part of Ukraine, right? internationally recognized by the entire world except Russia and some communist separatists, including all of Russia's allies in this war.

I've always understood the eastern border of Europe to be the Ural mountains. Russia territory east of there is all territory they conquered. to include Mongolia would be to say that India was part of Europe when it was the British Raj. Russia's empire spans two continents.

I'm saying that anyone can protest an empty building with no opposition, so yes I'm certain I could get enough white guys to do that but none of that has any bearing on my original point, which is that white nationalists generally don't like you guys.

1/ Ok you thereby accept the existence of Ukrainian offensive operations. But ok explain this shit to me. Let's say im a donbass Russian and I don't agree with the maidan revolution. I just have to take whatever the Kiev government wants to give them right? Or can I just shoot at the kiev government forces when they come instead?

2/ In fact it goes past Mongolia. Thus Vladivostok. Thus Siberia. Russia on one hand has been intermingled with European aristocracy, on the other, its orthodox Christian rather than Roman. Russia has long been considered the east, though not the far east obviously.

3/ Ok, can you really organise a protest for an empty building? Can you do that?

why are you saying this stuff? Are you trying to impress me? TRS has always said, if you don't like what they're doing then do your thing.

My guess, on available evidence, is that you have no thing to do. You don't even have three man teams. In fact, there are no actual white nationalists around you. There are white guys with moderately right wing, small government views they've been indoctrinated with. Just like all over the west. And when you come here to make sure we all know that NJP is not popular...in fact it's just deeb goncern trolling. You're apolitical.

 

[Special19]

I'm saying that anyone can protest an empty building with no opposition, so yes I'm certain I could get enough white guys to do that but none of that has any bearing on my original point, which is that white nationalists generally don't like you guys.

How many people could you get to a protest with a week to prepare? How many people could you get into a barn with 6 months to prepare?

that's the general consensus I get everywhere I go. These guys will tell you up and down that they ARE white nationalism and they're the only game in town but most WNs seem to hate them, think they're gay, or don't know they exist.

"Everywhere I go"...you mean on the internet. Don't tell me you know some vast network of irl white nationalists that you meet in your nonexistant travels. This is the internet, it's all fake and gay and doesn't mean anything. None of these people here do ANYTHING. Do you think us posting here or on 4chan or telegram or whatever means anything? PF and NJP and the groups before them, at least they're outside touching grass lol

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

Let's say im a donbass Russian...

I would say emigrate, seeing as you consider yourself Russian and not Ukrainian and Russia is right there. If you're a Donbass communist then I'd say kys

In fact it goes past Mongolia

It's empire does. Did you not understand the Raj analogy? how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

can you really organise a protest for an empty building?

yes

why are you saying this stuff? Are you trying to impress me? TRS has always said, if you don't like what they're doing then do your thing.

Because I can and it's what I think of these guys. I do my own thing, but I'd be a fool to talk about it on the internet, and I can still say whatever I want about TRS.

My guess blah blah blah

think what you like. It doesn't make TRS any more popular

How many people...

Nice try FBI

This is the internet, it's all fake and gay and doesn't mean anything

then what do you care what people say on a gossip forum?

 

[Special19]

Nice try FBI

then what do you care what people say on a gossip forum?

The answer is zero. You're a lying little weeb faggot. I find it entertaining, however I'm not pretending I could do a better job at irl activism because I don't do irl activism. Just like you (but not a liar).

 

[DirtyDDisagrees]

The answer is zero. You're a lying little weeb faggot. I find it entertaining, however I'm not pretending I could do a better job at irl activism because I don't do irl activism. Just like you (but not a liar).

believe whatever you want

 

[The Delta Farce]

The answer is zero. You're a lying little weeb faggot. I find it entertaining, however I'm not pretending I could do a better job at irl activism because I don't do irl activism. Just like you (but not a liar).

He never said he could do a better job with IRL activism. The original comment that started this argument was that TRS is unpopular. You and mrolonzo responded with a non sequitiur because you don't have an argument. Almost everyone who was affiliated with TRS pre-Yid Wife Crisis left. Then half of the new people left mid 2018. Now large pool parties are leaving. TRS isn't even popular with its own supporters.

 

[Special19]

He never said he could do a better job with IRL activism. The original comment that started this argument was that TRS is unpopular. You and mrolonzo responded with a non sequitiur because you don't have an argument. Almost everyone who was affiliated with TRS pre-Yid Wife Crisis left. Then half of the new people left mid 2018. Now large pool parties are leaving. TRS isn't even popular with its own supporters.

Well the Tennessee pool party is still around and they're 769 members strong.

 

[The Delta Farce]

Well the Tennessee pool party is still around and they're 769 members strong.

News to me. Why have they never done anything? The Tennessee GOP banned child drag shows and "gender transition" without their help. And the GOP is mostly useless (one of the few things I agree with TRS on)

And I'll ask again. How are you in a position to know the exact number of people in a pool party?