Debate with a cyclist on ethics of ignoring laws, and debate with a cop-hater about whether or not all the cops deserve to die

[A Random Lurker]

I've literally been in that exact position before, some kids riding their bikes on the road with an empty pavement right next to them. I know you think you're enlightened for your lack of concern regarding your surroundings, but all you do is piss people off.

I don't agree with the free account faggot but bikes in general aren't allowed on sidewalks because of the risk of a bike hitting pedestrians and injuring them, it's safer to have the bikes on the road where the only potential damage they can do is to themselves and cars. Though cyclists should be aware enough and courteous enough to notice cars behind them that want to pass and pulling over to let them pass even if it means stopping. And to the freds don't give bullshit about being clipped in if you have clipless pedals you should take the 10 minutes to learn to clip out a foot and freestand, if you're riding a fixie and don't stop your a faggot who deserves death.

 

[Midwit]

bikes in general aren't allowed on sidewalks

I've seen more people riding bikes on pavement than I have on the road, though admittedly I live in a small town so there aren't usually many pedestrians to bump into into. Really this just exacerbates one of the primary issues of bikes, in that they're too slow for motor traffic but too fast for pedestrians so they end up in a shitty middle ground requiring dedicated infrastructure with minimal economic benefits because any transportation method worth a damn requires a full sized street. Ban the bike, embrace elevated walkways, simple as.

 

[quaawaa]

I don't agree with the free account faggot but bikes in general aren't allowed on sidewalks because of the risk of a bike hitting pedestrians and injuring them, it's safer to have the bikes on the road where the only potential damage they can do is to themselves and cars.

That only makes sense in busy areas. On the evil "stroads", the sidewalk is functionally a fully seperated bike path and the risk of collision with a pedestrian is near zero provided the cyclist isn't a retard.

e.g. No one cares if you cycle on this sidewalk provided you yield to the occasional pedestrian:

Google Maps
but don't cycle on this one:

Google Maps

 

[Marvin]

Two innocent black youths framed by The Man yet again. When will people get woke and see what's really going on?
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Btw Don't Be a Menace is a classic.

try to run me next time, faggot.
You'll go to jail

We need an "ow the edge" rating.

EDIT, Or ya'know, using the pavement instead and terrorizing the pedestrians

The sidewalk is dangerous for cyclists because they risk getting sideswiped every time they exit onto the road. Bikes are actually road vehicles. Slow roads, of course.

I've seen more people riding bikes on pavement than I have on the road, though admittedly I live in a small town so there aren't usually many pedestrians to bump into into. Really this just exacerbates one of the primary issues of bikes, in that they're too slow for motor traffic but too fast for pedestrians so they end up in a shitty middle ground requiring dedicated infrastructure with minimal economic benefits because any transportation method worth a damn requires a full sized street.

In big cities, they're a huge boon. Particularly places when cars shouldn't be going terribly fast anyway because every block has a crosswalk and a stopsign.

 

[Black Spruce]

Excellent political strategy, just off with their heads.

It's not a political strategy. It's a moral compass. I don't have a political strategy because there is no political solution to the problems we face. It dug us into this hole and it ain't gonna dig us out.

"then less people would call you insane for celebrating his death."

But why is it different when it's a politician?

y personal position happens to be a bit more nuanced than a simple binary 1 or 0 as to who deserves to die.

Which really just means you don't have standards. This "nuance" you speak of is really just an excuse to let you pick and choose what right and wrong is depending on who was involved in an incident rather than what happened in an incident.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I've seen more people riding bikes on pavement than I have on the road, though admittedly I live in a small town so there aren't usually many pedestrians to bump into into. Really this just exacerbates one of the primary issues of bikes, in that they're too slow for motor traffic but too fast for pedestrians so they end up in a shitty middle ground requiring dedicated infrastructure with minimal economic benefits because any transportation method worth a damn requires a full sized street. Ban the bike, embrace elevated walkways, simple as.

I know it's been said before but it's a damn shame how "urbanists" never embrace the multi-level street concept as proposed in some documents, with one grade level for pedestrians, a low-traffic street, and a subterranean full roadway.

 

[DavidS877]

I know it's been said before but it's a damn shame how "urbanists" never embrace the multi-level street concept as proposed in some documents, with one grade level for pedestrians, a low-traffic street, and a subterranean full roadway.

There are some(at least one) towns out here where they have a highway running through them. Typically they suggest "let's widen the highway, add turn lanes and bike lanes" at which point the highway no longer fits without demolishing stuff or splitting it so each direction is on a different existing street.

Or, you know, just rip out the parking, add the turn lanes and tell the bicycles to use the low traffic street one block over through the congested area and save millions.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I know it's been said before but it's a damn shame how "urbanists" never embrace the multi-level street concept as proposed in some documents, with one grade level for pedestrians, a low-traffic street, and a subterranean full roadway.

One of the big issues they always bring up is, ironically, that it would make it too hard to clear blockages and get emergency vehicles through.

 

[Wodanaz]

niggers tongue my anus

I'm not reading that. You are not based and redpilled for denigrating the victims of senseless violence, even of they are cops. This is the kind of thing you think in the heat of the moment, and then regret later, not the kind of thing you defend over and over. You are broken inside.

 

[Black Spruce]

You are not based and redpilled for denigrating the victims of senseless violence, even of they are cops.

Lmao sure. Whatever you say, buddy. Be sure you leave out complimentary donuts when the cops come to take your children to chemically castrate and mutilate them because the school said they were trans.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Lmao sure. Whatever you say, buddy. Be sure you leave out complimentary donuts when the cops come to take your children to chemically castrate and mutilate them because the school said they were trans.
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Your average small town cop deals with murders, car wrecks, theft, general crime. They aren't going to troon out your kid you sperg.

 

[Black Spruce]

Your average small town cop deals with murders, car wrecks, theft, general crime. They aren't going to troon out your kid you sperg.

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro. Even if it's not, what do you think the local cops are gonna do if they see you defending your child against the ones that do?

 

[WelperHelper99]

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro. Even if it's not, what do you think the local cops are gonna do if they see you defending your child against the ones that do?

Motherfucker, I'm not in California, and I doubt the cops here would enforce it. You have little faith

 

[Flaming Insignias]

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro. Even if it's not, what do you think the local cops are gonna do if they see you defending your child against the ones that do?

Oh, you're one of those “police are evil because dumb laws exist” guys. You seriously think every beat cop knows and makes a point to enforce every single law on the book no matter how unreasonable they are? Believe it or not, policemen are individuals who can know how to act with discretion and nuance, and just because Sacramento makes a law doesn't mean every sheriff is suddenly going to become the troonstapo.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro. Even if it's not, what do you think the local cops are gonna do if they see you defending your child against the ones that do?

>california

alright buddy

tell me about the other 49 states (and maybe even the rest of the world)

 

[WelperHelper99]

Oh, you're one of those “police are evil because dumb laws exist” guys. You seriously think every beat cop knows and makes a point to enforce every single law on the book no matter how unreasonable they are? Believe it or not, policemen are individuals who can know how to act with discretion and nuance, and just because Sacramento makes a law doesn't mean every sheriff is suddenly going to become the troonstapo.

I've had my fair share of dealings with cops with my car wrecks. The most recent one, he could have nailed me to a cross. But because I was polite, unlike the other lady, he simply gave me a 160 dollar fine, no bullshit of having to go to court, and as long as I don't fuck up in the next 2 years, the points I've been given will fade. He was polite to me, never yelled, never reached for his gun, in fact, he asked if I needed a ambulance, and patted me on the back in the end . That man is trooning out the kids? Lol no. He would rather quit before enforce such a outrageous law.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro. Even if it's not, what do you think the local cops are gonna do if they see you defending your child against the ones that do?

Police are mooks (in the UK, they're also functionally retarded) who often have no idea of the laws they're supposed to be enforcing. They just do what they told.

Do I laugh when, in the process of enforcing those laws they don't understand, they get what's coming to them? Yes.

Do I laugh when an off-duty cop is run over by a nigger? No. The reason being, there was absolutely no indication that he was a cop. They ran him over because wanted to kill someone and he was there. They didn't know or care who he was, or what his job was, or what he might or might not have done; all they cared about was killing some guy they saw on the road.

That's the difference between you and everyone else arguing with you, friend: We understand that the people driving that car would have done exactly the same thing to any one of us, if circumstances placed us there. They weren't on some grand crusade to rid the world of evil, troon-law-enforcing agents of the state. They were animals who wanted to kill for fun.

ANYWAY.

Not directly NJB-related, but it probably does fall under the anti-car sort of thing. The UK government finally cleared all the hurdles necessary to build a tunnel past stonehenge, so that it would no longer be despoiled by a road so close to the ancient monument. Almost immediately, demands have been made to scrap the plan, supposedly becuase it might disturb some as-yet undiscovered archaeological site, but in reality because it would allow traffic to move more freely through the area.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-66843922

https://archive.ph/wip/PhMf4

I'm sure the fuckcars people are already on it.

Just to get us back on track.

Or I could have my post moved because I made it a half second after the warning I didn't see.

Sweep sweep.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Or I could have my post moved because I made it a half second after the warning I didn't see.

Sweep sweep.

Don't you just love it when a conversation gets shoved into the Thunderdome because people had the gall to criticize a person shitting up the thread?

Anyway, cyclists are annoying and many police officers are painfully complicit in enforcing the Right Side of History, but the story that started this all involved neither; it was simply a couple of psychopathic teenage joggers deciding to run over a random pedestrian because he was just a defenseless old man as far as they could tell.

 

[Soyjak Enjoyer]

The new law in California demanding that parents affirm tranny shit or lose custody is going to be enforced by local cops, bro

The law makes it so that in a divorce case the courts can, as a factor in making the custody decision, favor a parent who supports the kid being a tranny over one who doesn't. Now obviously most people on here are still against this, but you're just fucking retarded if you think there are in our country right now cops who are just barging down doors and taking children away because the parent's refuse to inject them with estrogen.

 

[Black Spruce]

Motherfucker, I'm not in California, and I doubt the cops here would enforce it. You have little faith

Doesn't matter. They're still local cops. I don't live there, either.

Oh, you're one of those “police are evil because dumb laws exist” guys.

No I'm a "police are evil for the same reason other law enforcement organizations such as ISIS or the Taliban are evil" kind of guy.

>california

alright buddy

tell me about the other 49 states (and maybe even the rest of the world)

Texas. Save James. California is no longer trannyfaggotnigger containment zone. Shit has spread.

Do I laugh when an off-duty cop is run over by a nigger? No. The reason being, there was absolutely no indication that he was a cop.

Buddy. I already said I was outraged that they went and mowed down a random person. That I was relieved that the victim turned out to be a cop.

but you're just fucking retarded if you think there are in our country right now cops who are just barging down doors and taking children away because the parent's refuse to inject them with estrogen.

They're not barging down doors and taking children away from parents for refusing to affirm the wrong gender, chemically castrate, and mutilate. They're barging down doors and takign children away from parents because the parents are (in a legal sense) kidnapping the children by refusing to turn them over. Or for violating a court order. Or for some other reason. Cops don't know the details of the situations they're sent into. Dispatch in fact keeps things as vague as possible. Does the fact that they willing run into a situation and blindly do what they're told despite not knowing the first thing about what's happening not make you even a little bit skeptical?