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Honestly I don't understand why abused men turn gay, only that they do. I wasn't trying to draw a parallel on their behavioural outcomes, only that they both stem from a similar source.
I'm not well-versed enough on the male gay to know why this differs that much in outcome but men and women are different enough biologically and socially (especially in terms of socialisation and societal expectation) that it's not baffling to me that a raped woman won't react the same as a raped man.

I even note that they differ quite a bit in behavioural outcomes in other regards on a different comment:
I think it may be that abuse disenfranchises women about men so they try to seek safety in women but abused men come to the conclusion that instead of becoming manly and masculine they have been disbarred from that by the abuse so take on the effeminate role.
 
Lesbians are just women who have a bone to pick with men and/or the patriarchy that scorned them in the past somehow. Cutting their hair, wearing more masculine clothing, etc. But the fact you can factory reset them with dick says more than enough.
 
I think it may be that abuse disenfranchises women about men so they try to seek safety in women but abused men come to the conclusion that instead of becoming manly and masculine they have been disbarred from that by the abuse so take on the effeminate role.
This is an interesting point and I wonder, if you pursue that train of thought, how it ties into the effects of prison rape. A lot of men who become "bitches" in prison continue the bottom lifestyle once they exit prison as well.
 
Again: please quote to me where I said it's a conscious choice.
I've already outlined the underlying motivators. Not all choices are conscious ones.
You choose to scream when you see a spider before you even have a chance to register that it's not a rational fear. You do so because of an atavistic fear. It's an involuntary choice but a choice nonetheless.
That is unless you believe humans to be passengers of fate.
Traumatic experiences with men force some women into choosing lesbianism because they can't form romantic relationships with men anymore.
My brother you word for word said "All other aspects of usual attraction to males doesn't manifest and only the physical remains when the physical is most often repulsive. So they choose women."

Shiiiiet, I actually agree with you on your last sentence of the quote in the reply box. But that isn't what you were saying before.

"Choose to scream when you see a spider" is taking it up a whole nother philosophical level lol. So you're choosing heterosexuality when you're actually in your soul a bisexual man? Do you choose to be repulsed when you see maggoty food?
Generally when people talk about choice they talk about active choice (not unconscious choice) ya goofball. Involuntary choice lol what are you taaaalking about.
 
Generally when people talk about choice they talk about active choice (not unconscious choice) ya goofball.
That was an assumption made on your part not based in anything I'd written.
So you're choosing heterosexuality when you're actually in your soul a bisexual man?
I'm choosing heterosexuality by engaging in romantic relationships with women and not sucking dick because that choice is motivated by my attraction to women and not men.
Involuntary choice lol what are you taaaalking about.
My condolences for your brainletism. It appears terminal.
 
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@Steak Tartare forgive the double post but I realised my last message was unnecessarily mean and, upon reflection, I've explained myself rather poorly.

I think where we're misunderstanding each other is that I see two separate components at play:
- An attraction to women (and/or a revulsion of men)
- Engagement in romantic relationships with only women

You view these as one, encompassing package (lesbianism).
For me the second is a choice based on the first as a motivator (although not a conscious one.)

As I mention in my previous post, I'd classify heterosexuality the same. As in one is attracted to the opposite sex and, based on that motivator, chooses to explicitly engage in romantic relationships with them.
It is possible, although counterintuitive, to do gay things and not be gay.

To use a dreaded food analogy:
If you're hungry, you choose to eat food. You are motivated by the hunger and could technically choose not to eat or even to eat something inedible but this would not satisfy your hunger and would be illogical.
Thus you are pressed into the involuntary choice of eating something generally considered nourishing. The choice to eat food, as a human, is still a choice.
Fate can't force your hand to eat either burgers or pussy. That doesn't mean that alternative choices are logical thereby forcing you into an involuntary choice.
 
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@Steak Tartare forgive the double post but I realised my last message was unnecessarily mean and, upon reflection, I've explained myself rather poorly.

I think where we're misunderstanding each other is that I see two separate components at play:
- An attraction to women (and/or a revulsion of men)
- Engagement in romantic relationships with only women

You view these as one, encompassing package (lesbianism).
For me the second is a choice based on the first as a motivator (although not a conscious one.)

As I mention in my previous post, I'd classify heterosexuality the same. As in one is attracted to the opposite sex and, based on that motivator, chooses to explicitly engage in romantic relationships with them.
It is possible, although counterintuitive, to do gay things and not be gay.

To use a dreaded food analogy:
If you're hungry, you choose to eat food. You are motivated by the hunger and could technically choose not to eat or even to eat something inedible but this would not satisfy your hunger and would be illogical.
Thus you are pressed into the involuntary choice of eating something generally considered nourishing. The choice to eat food, as a human, is still a choice.
Fate can't force your hand to eat either burgers or pussy. That doesn't mean that alternative choices are logical thereby forcing you into an involuntary choice.
Hey I appreciate the 2nd post, it's rare that shit-flinging simmers down on the internet in the name of discussion and finding commonality. I will behave better myself!

I do agree with you that attraction and engagement are different, that the latter is often based on the former, and that you can do gay things and not be gay. Similar to talking about troons there are a variety of input factors (trauma from males, immaturity regarding men, biological predisposition, political reasons, etc) that could be behind output of expressed/engaged lesbianism in an individual.

Of the lesbians I have met IRL just about half of them are in the "I have been attracted to women since elementary school" camp and the other half later in life. I fully believe that there are biologically-wired lesbians out there. The types that would still want to be fingering a lady in, like, the 1600s Ottoman empire. It would be so interesting, and so impossible, to find out what the % split is between bio-predisposed and environmentally-influenced lesbians. Likely in most cases the end result of expressed lesbianism comes from bio+enviro, but yeah I do beleive that the %100 bios exist. There are reasons why a late-in-life lesbian could be legit (such as they live in a culture of control and repression) however I am very skeptical of the age 30 "my exboyfriend was so shitty, and I just discovered I like girls" types.

Food analogy- ayy, I don't hate a good 'ol similie! It's tough to find one to map on to this because human sexuality doesn't have many analogues imo. Food doesn't quite work because without eating you will die, but you won't die if you're not fuckin'. This isn't perfect but how about a comparison to participaing in socity// going Chris McCandless and moving out solo to the woods?
*Strong incentive to participate in society, it's the natural choice for most people, every day you 'choose' not to go feral = hetero lady smooches a man, most people are hetero, & she reaffirms the choice daily
*Society gets disincentivized (violence, economy, etc) lady moves to woods = fuck men, lady eata da pus

So yeah, basically I agree with you but I do think there are an indeterminate percentage of 'tru' lesbians out there, IE full heterosexuality and full homosexuality exist regardless of environmental factors and life experiance.
 
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Why do lesbians masturbate with rubber penises and not rubber vaginas?
Benis envy. I am sure that the theory posted earlier has some validity.

Women find providing traits sexy. If they got abused, they don't associate that with a male, so their bisexual nature elevates the sleepover bonding JO crystal experience to actual love quest.

Gay men are a harder topic. Why do they keep the cycle on? Is it as simple that he did ig to my ass, his peepee must felt super good, I got to try it for myself I like hard peepee?
 
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Lesbianism is fake and gay and copium coming from women whose looks or personality or attitude make them repelling for any self-respecting man
they like to do it to entertain men it’s very common even for hot ones with normal personality especially when drunk
 
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I'm not saying that women can't be physically attracted to men at all, just that physical attraction counts far less when evaluating a potential mate than it does for men.
Women are also only physically attracted to about 20% (going by the studies on dating site data) of men on pure physicality whereas the spread of attractive women is far broader in perception to both men and women.
Unless you're in that 20%, she's not really with you for your looks (although that doesn't mean she's not attracted to you.)


This just reinforces my larger point on lesbianism. These lesbians are not immune to physical attraction to men, when it manifests, but are devoid of any other feelings of attraction towards their social characteristics. In other words, they can jack it to a porno of a man they don't know but couldn't date a man because it would involve being attracted to him in more ways than physically because female attraction is compound and depends on more than just physical attraction. This almost always stems from trauma.

This is completely opposed to gay men who are physically repulsed by vaginas a lot of the time.
few ways of handeling, how ladership handel people, acesess to marge was one way of it. job of high and low is next rounge of life , and maker and crafters of time as well for few given resons. other angle int count is how human are biophotonic bodys how body chemisty happins as well. light on body is key fator to matter as well how chemisty for woman . work in mommet sort wording used as well.
 
We do have a general LGBT discussion thread for this type of talk.
This is a thread for straight people to talk about broken women (lesbeans). That thread a hug box for gay, lesbo, trannys, etc. literally deviants.


Fwiw I think that there are no absolute endpoints on the Kinsey scale. In other words, everyone is at least marginally bisexual, but there is a complex (but completely natural) social structure that regulates how the ego deals with that. The extremes can be quite funny (I.e. guys who claim to only watch lesbo porn because viewing a penis fucking a woman is gay, or turbo butch/masc lesbos)
 
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