Denial or delusion?

[BigAltheGreat921]

For the longest time Chris has claimed his shitty Sonic recolor is marketable; he has a billion fans worldwide; is not fat and is very physically STRONG; and thinks (sorry about this) it's acceptable to , among other things. But do you think Chris actually believes/believed this stuff to be true, or genuinely knows that he has none of these but denies it anyway to make himself feel comfortable?

 

[The Dude]

A little of column A and a little of column B.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

It's denial and delusion. When you isolate a single person alone in his room, cut off from almost all outside contact for over a decade, he's going to live in his own mind. Give him untreated autism and he will end up very nearly insane. Chris lacks the mental tools of analysis because of nature and environment. He can convince himself of anything he likes. There is almost no coherence to his mind.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Brother, Barb and Bob told him he was all those things, then he believed he had billions of fans, so he thinks that. But yeah, he is delusional and in denial, as it should be obvious, man.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

But do you think Chris actually believes/believed this stuff to be true, or genuinely knows that he has none of these but denies it anyway to make himself feel comfortable?

I think he genuinely believes most, if not all of what he says.He has no perspective of what the real world is like so he has the narrow-mindedness of a young child: "I do XYZ so everyone else must do XYZ too". That includes which he sort of knows is unusual but there's always a good explanation for why it's OK for him to do it.

 

[Saney]

Like The Dude and Tubular Monkey said, it seems to be a bit of both, really. Chris is kind of screwed up that way.

 

[BillRiley]

For the longest time Chris has claimed his shitty Sonic recolor is marketable; he has a billion fans worldwide; is not fat and is very physically STRONG; and thinks (sorry about this) it's acceptable to , among other things. But do you think Chris actually believes/believed this stuff to be true, or genuinely knows that he has none of these but denies it anyway to make himself feel comfortable?

Untangling Chris-Ch­an's delusions would be the job of a lifetime. Some of the above I'm sure he believes, some he's probably made up. It's not so much an either/or situation as it is both/and.

 

[Marvin]

Like The Dude and Tubular Monkey said, it seems to be a bit of both, really. Chris is kind of screwed up that way.

Eh, I don't know if that's really the case, at least consistently.

Like, there are a few, specific events Chris knows about, but I don't know if I'd really even describe it as denial. He makes up a story, but he doesn't really try too hard to make it believable. He's not very dedicated to maintaining the story. Like, for example, he doesn't really believe that it's OK to shit yourself, and more importantly, he doesn't believe you believe it.

Otherwise, Chris pretty consistently has almost no understanding about why his life is so fucked up.

 

[CatParty]

Autism.

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

It's denial and delusion. When you isolate a single person alone in his room, cut off from almost all outside contact for over a decade, he's going to live in his own mind. Give him untreated autism and he will end up very nearly insane. Chris lacks the mental tools of analysis because of nature and environment. He can convince himself of anything he likes. There is almost no coherence to his mind.

There's no room for coherence in his mind. His ego takes up 110% of the space.

 

[rocket]

My impression is that a lot of times he's saying what he wants other people to believe, or saying things out loud very matter-of-factly to ease his own uncertainties. Some things he takes to heart imo (Game Place is troll HQ) but others not so much (pooping yourself is ok).

 

[Donald Duck]

Maybe a little of both like TM said, but I would add that apart from denial and delusion, you also have to consider the fact that mentally he's a child who is also very, very stupid.

 

[homerbeoulve]

Can we say bloody both?

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

Whenever Chris put out a video or a Facebook comment telling all of us that we are losers and that we had better shape up and get a life, I know he's just parroting what Bob was yelling at him to do earlier that day. These chastising posts he makes are just his way of passing along the shame onto our heads, as though we all are beneath him in the Pecking Order of Life.

 

[Petronella]

I don't know if Chris even has the mental capacity to be in denial. He's been so sheltered through his whole life that he takes everything at face value and assumes that everyone is truthful.

A lot of it probably comes from Barb as well. I can see him having an "accident" at school and coming crying to Barb to be told, "It's ok, everyone does it" and literally believing from then on that this is normal behavior.

 

[Some JERK]

we all exaggerate our positive points sometimes while downplaying our faults. it's just that Chris is inept and can't do this in any believable way, so it comes of as ridiculous delusion.

 

[Soweirdandpizza]

The thing with ASD is that people with Autism often don't have theory of mind. Someone commented that Chris lives in his own mind...that's very true, because he can't comprehend that other people have individual minds with their own intentions and perceptions. All he knows is what's in his own mind and he assumes everyone else to be in on it too.

 

[Marvin]

we all exaggerate our positive points sometimes while downplaying our faults. it's just that Chris is inept and can't do this in any believable way, so it comes of as ridiculous delusion.

Eh... sometimes. But there are a lot of things that are amazingly fucking crazy that you could never believe anyone actually believes... but Chris does. One thing I've learned from Chris is to never overestimate him. I've had lots of times where I was wondering if Chris actually believed something or if he was just putting on a show or something like that. But what I ultimately learned was that, yes, Chris believed it (and worse). Chris is damn good at lowering your expectations, especially on the topic of what sort of crazy shit he believes.

 

[RagtimeRoastBeefy]

Both denial and delusion require a level of imagination I don't think Chris has. I think someone tells him something he is happy to believe and he believes it, someone does the opposite and he doesn't. The billions of fans lie was probably given to him and he accepted it face value. The great artist title probably came the same way when he was younger. He more than likely took it at face value and believed he had no reason to press harder cause he was already great

 

[Kosher Dill]

The billions of fans thing was just his equivalent of taking a crayon and writing "super duper a lot" on the questionnaire. I don't think he ever seriously tried to pretend that the planet's entire English-speaking population read Sonichu. If you asked him to even read that number back to you in words, he couldn't.