US Deprogram your relatives this Thanksgiving

By Molly Jong-Fast

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Some people (like my friend Tom Nichols) think that you should spend your Thanksgiving playing nice, pretending that your cousin doesn’t follow QAnon and that your uncle doesn’t believe the election was stolen and also that the Cyber Ninjas are a bunch of cucks for not uncovering voter fraud. Tom believes that Thanksgiving is a time for harmony and niceties and gratitude. I love Tom, but he’s completely wrong.

Spending a holiday sitting around, pretending your crazy relatives aren’t crazy, is one of America’s time-honored traditions. In normal times, you could be the dog in the house-fire meme declaring, “This is fine” while taking a sip of doggy coffee, but we are not in normal times.

Last Thanksgiving, many of us didn’t see our families, because the pandemic was raging. Now, 773,000 dead Americans later, we have vaccines and boosters. And while the unvaccinated are still dying at a pretty rapid clip, we are finally able to more safely get together with our parents and grandparents and weird cousins and uncles.

This is your chance to deprogram them. Facebook knows its algorithm radicalizes users. This is your chance to tell your aunt that maybe the news she gets from it isn’t all that reliable. And that maybe the MAGA news network is not giving her unbiased news, either.


Especially when it comes to vaccines, family members can actually win each other’s hearts and minds. A professor who has studied coronavirus-vaccine promotion at North Carolina State University, Stacy Wood, told The Washington Post that “the effort is worthwhile … A lot of people are convinced over time from small bits of information that trickle in.” According to a Time/Harris poll, 59 percent of people got vaccinated after a friend or family member did. You could literally save your creepy uncle’s life.

If you actually can lead by example when it comes to vaccines, what about the other stuff?

In May, The New York Times cited a poll in which “15 percent of Americans [said] they think that the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles.” I’m no statistician—in fact I’m barely able to add and subtract; I got a D in tenth-grade math—but to me that says there’s a decent chance someone at your Thanksgiving table will be QAnon-curious or believe the Big Lie. Should you let this person rant and rave about how there were voting “irregularities” even though there weren’t irregularities? If they’re keeping up with current events through Facebook and Fox News, they’re in such an information silo that they might never hear the truth of what really happened during the 2020 election. (For the record: Nothing happened; it was a completely normal election where Joe Biden won by almost the same margin that Donald Trump won in 2016.)

You might be the only person your uncle talks to all year who could explain to him that the Cyber Ninjas themselves found zero evidence of voter fraud. You might be the only person in the world who can sit down with your anti-vax cousin and explain to her that the vaccine won’t make her infertile and that Alex Berenson is a fraud.

You may also be the one person who unreservedly loves Thanksgiving, but let’s be honest, for most of us a five-hour meal with relatives you see once a year is no one’s idea of a great time. Have you ever thought, This is the gauzy Hallmark-movie fantasy I’ve always longed for?

I’ve done 43 Thanksgivings, and the best one was probably in 1997, when I was 19 and getting sober at Hazelden in Center City, Minnesota. I’m here to tell you Thanksgiving is terrible, and if you at least spend the time trying to deprogram your niece, you won’t be bored or depressed (though you might be enraged that Fox News or Infowars has convinced her Trump can “save America” from Joe Biden’s radical agenda of giving people hearing aids and free pre-K).

Maybe it won’t work. Maybe you’ll leave Thanksgiving dinner as divided as you were when you sat down at the table five hours and 4,000 calories ago. Or maybe you’ll plant the seed, sow just a little doubt about whatever Tucker Carlson is saying now. Maybe you’ll even change a heart or a mind. Maybe you’ll bring the temperature down just a tiny bit. Or maybe you’ll need to report a relative to the FBI! Either way, it’s something to do besides just eat.

source: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com...8/deprogram-your-relatives-this-thanksgiving/
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There is a lot wrong with my family, but one thing I appreciate about it is that it's pretty much understood just not to even invite self absorbed cunts who try to bring their bullshit lefty politics. We try to avoid politics discussion any way even though we pretty much all agree on some level, just for the simple fact that we deal with this shit and bad news 365 days a year anyway. I'm sure there will be some general grumbling tomorrow at our dinner but guys, seriously, Thanksgiving should be a day where you're more focused on spending time with others and appreciating what you have instead of doomposting or being a lefty faggot or even being a curmudgeonly right wing loonbat. Just eat some good food and pass out on the sofa like normal americans for fucks sake.
I feel this hard, yet a lot of my older cousins (3/4s of them are unmarried white women pushing 30) have begun to let their politics creep further into family gatherings since 2016. Doesn't help that they're all either vegan or have arbitrarily complicated dietary preferences brought on by a vain need to preserve their health and youth. Even passive shit like that is a political statement in of itself. Thanksgiving has become less of an event and more of a chore.

The sad part is, for a family like mine that's scattered to all corners of the Lower 48 and only see each other maybe once or twice a year, everyone's kinda let divisive politics get to them because the members most politically vocal have been able to loudly confide in each other with little resistance because challenging a left-leaning, suburban-reared white chick on anything is more trouble than it's worth. Most of my dude relatives are based though, I wish I had more of em...
 
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No, no. Your news sources are wrong. Don't you know Rittenhouse is a guilty white supremacist and the crash in Waukasha was an accident when a white parade collided into a black man who was just going to church? Where do I get my sources from? CNN and MSNBC, why? Who cares if there's actual video footage, that doesn't prove anything.

These people want you believing and to be as miserable as they are. Anything that threatens their world view, even reality itself is a determent to them
 
Well I don’t see the reason why one shouldn’t drop a couple subtle red pills if a snippy relative decides to go all Branch Covidiot on you.

Maybe ask them when their next booster is gonna be, anything to wear down their confidence in the Science™.

Otherwise, the next best solution is to basically stand up and tell them that politics is off the table during the dinner.
Only thing a branch covidian or any other form of raving politics sperging relative should get is a boot up the arse out the door. If you can't leave politics at the door to a celebration, or engage in political discussion/disagreement without turning into a shrieking harpy, don't come, and if you do come, get out. Don't ruin everyone's celebration by being a fucking slave to politics and an argumentative cunt.
 
I have to agree it is terrible to use Facebook as a news source, everyone knows the truly accurate stuff can be found repeated by people on twitter. This last week has shown me that for sure.

People who politsperg at family gatherings are the absolute worst. I'm glad I was raised in a family where it was considered impolite.
 
I know I keep circling back to this thread, but another thing that peeves me about this article is the fact that author is one of those people who genuinely thought the lockdowns were a necessary force for good, complied with them, and probably abstained from visiting family per the suggestion of their governor until they got the jab, which is a tacit admission that they're sheep who willingly, unconditionally comply with authority and parrot their talking points without a single shred of forethought (hence the repeated statements that there was no election fraud in 2020) as well a professional urban welfare parasite who allowed themselves to be locked in their apartment by the government and given gibs for six months while people with actual jobs continued to work so the rest of the damn country could eat.

I don't hate people, but I really fucking hate what this woman(?) represents.
 
It seems like the left has almost exclusively negative views of Thanksgiving. They hate the holiday and they treat it as if they're going to war with a right wing militia.

Edit to add: this alarmist articles were best back in 2016.
Yep, Thanksgiving is always the target, and "ruining" it so the wrongthinkers can't enjoy even one minute of peace is the goal.

The only thing that ever changes is what you get to chastise your redneck familiars about in particular, the only difference is what grand social injustice they've decided Thanksgiving REALLY stands for THIS year.

Racism? Social Justice? Anti-Jingoism? Environmentalism? Capitalism? Anti-Fundamentalism?

Earn a new Merit Badge for the Resistance (tm) each year.....

And thanks to bonkers Clown World politics, we can add trans rights, homophobia and science itself (via COVID) to the list and keep it running for 3 more years, making you feel good for having waved a new ally's flag every year since 2003.....

This is why nobody likes you. Basic human politeness is a completely foreign concept to you.
The insidious thing is they KNOW what it is, they just deliberately think YOU don't deserve it.

It's not like they're some green-skinned humanoids wandering around saying "Tell us more about this Earth concept known as polite" - I could forgive that.

They are being jerks with the full approval of their own warped consciousness that hold their own families must be cleansed of prog-traitors, they even call it DEPROGRAMING for Freya's sake!\

They are unironically and unapologetically committed to the Right Side of History (tm) and cannot be moved from their sincere belief that there are no bad tactics, just bad targets, and your own blood is the most convenient (I.E. best) target available since you can actually get inside Gestapo Headquarters the house without the police being called (at first).
 
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If I have to put up with my stupid sister's SJW sperging through the Trump and Bush Administrations and her gleefully sadistic takes during the Obama Administration, she can put up with me telling her to shut her fucking yap.

Deprogramming inevitably means "Act like a complete fucking tool till someone punches you in the mouth for ruining the holidays like a complete faggot."
 
danger hair: im gonna talk about politics and if you don't listen, i will report you to the government *smug face*

newspaper: soy mcdangerhair was found dead in a field, cops rule it as a suicide
 
Tranny thinks every holiday is just about them them them and goes on a crazy rant about how
he will ruin thanksgiving for everyone and how bad people they are for not liking him.

Why do they still invite this troon to the holiday gatherings?
 
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I said a little prayer today when I was organizing my Christmas play list (no, not listening yet). I said, Lord, in this season, I want to lay down my anger and my hatred and try to live as you would have us, I want to try and put down my prejudice and my disdain and I want to try to be the better person in all things, and not lose my temper, and just take a deep breath, control the things I can, not get angry at what I can't.

I'm trying, sweet Jesus, I'm trying. But I read things like this and it's so, so hard.
 
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