Did anyone ever felt a shift in the world in 2012?

[Rome's rightful successor]

2012 was the end of the good Internet.

The good internet died after big tech panic when Trump became president.

 

[Wesley Willis]

2012 was The Avengers, 2019 was Endgame.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I felt it around 2010/2011 I think

But I think it was really around 2008 and I was just too young and stupid and busy with starting college to really notice.

 

[celebrityskin]

Wasn't it the wide rollout of 3G/4G? Smartphones were a thing before 2011/12 yeah, but contracts were pretty expensive and even then they were mostly associated with business (like PDAs before them). I got my first Samsung smartphone in 2012-ish and I had an iPod Touch before that and even then I mostly just stuck to wifi.

By 2013 the vibe definitely shifted though. For the first time everything was in everyone's pocket, though it was still untainted because large corporations hadn't permeated it yet (Buzzfeed etc. were still just taking off).

Also 2013-ish was also when Instagram, Snapchat and Vine all came about, and you can't understate how big they were in making social media a more mobile experience

 

[A Grey Cat]

we all died in our beds that night. What we've been seeing since we woke up on december 22nd is a reality our minds create as the brain dies. 7 minutes on earth in 2012 can feel like a hundred years before you wake up and then...well....depends on what you believe. maybe it's all just a void till the universe dies, maybe god will ferry you to his land of golden mansions and angels with eyes and tongues, or maybe your self conscious thought will be free from the confines of your brain to see your body now finally gone and decayed away and it's December 22nd, 1 AH (after humanity)

 

[gmax alcremie]

Don't forget that 2012 was also the year Josh Moon worked on creating a little forum website before launching it in 2013.

Lol. I never realized null created a forum is it still around?

Smartphones were a thing before 2011/12 yeah, but contracts were pretty expensive and even then they were mostly associated with business

I had a full featured smart phone in 2007 for idk maybe $40/month with unlimited data. True unlimited and it was pretty speedy, I'd stream YouTube videos for music in my car. I'm guessing that's because networks weren't heavily populated but I remember being so irritated when data caps happened. I personally blame not smart phones but touch screens/iPhones/downloading "apps" versus navigating to websites with a browser and hoping it was at least semi mobile compatible. Or having to specifically use a mobile URL rather than have it redirect to a mobile version automatically.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

The Maya considered the end of a k'atun (period of 7200 days) as bringing major changes. For instance, the city of Mayapan was abandoned in 1461 (end of a k'atun) because the last inhabitants realized it would not get any better during the next k'atun.

The baktun (period of 144,000 days) was only associated with major changes because it also was the start of a new k'atun, but let's keep in mind that before 2012, the last baktun ending was September 18, 1618. On that same day (which was September 19 in Europe), the first major battle of the Thirty Years War occurred.

We only need look at occurrences of buzzwords like "transgender", "white supremacy", "-phobia", or "fascism" in major newspapers from 2013-onward to see that something changed since 2012. A k'atun ending can be very favorable for individuals or groups. For instance, before 2012, a k'atun ended in 1993, the same year the EU was founded and Clinton became president. The next k'atun (the first full k'atun of this era) ends on September 7, 2032 (a presidential election year). Something very, very bad is going to happen that year.

The good internet died after big tech panic when Trump became president.

Even before Trump got the nomination (which was the start of the panic), the internet was already getting censored. I unironically blame Gamergate for that, since the media claimed it was like the 9/11caust and got all the random jannies and mods everywhere to ramp up censorship on wrongthink. Like remember when that fag Milo was banned from Twitter for making fun of the dumb negress in the Ghostbusters remake? That would've been unheard of in 2012.

 

[FudgeFish]

I think 2012 was the last year I recall seeing people being happy, healthy and confident as the norm.

Since then - bitterness, weakness and ugliness have become the norm. If 2012 was the apocalypse, it was very much a spiritual one.

 

[PaleTay]

Part of it might be growing up but everyone seems so ugly physically and mentally now, it feels like most people don't have souls and those who do have souls are drawn to one another.

 

[Netizennameless]

I don't think the "end of the world" we're seeing is the end in itself, but is the byproduct of the decades of the boomerism notion of "don't judge others". It's increasingly unpopular to pass judgment, and by extension to have some level of standards.

I don't think so. People definitely still judge, they just keep it to themselves. That makes it harder for people who don't have good parents to teach them social expectations.

The troonism fad is a further extension to the boomerism mindset. Everything that has happened within my life seems to stem from the keystone boomerism.

Troonism is actually extremely rare, less than 1% of the population. It is being amplified by the media to make it appear rampant.

You can not be anything, you can not become a man or a woman if not already that sex. At best people should politely humor these poor people who've fallen into a deleterious lifestyle due to echo chambers, without ceding any ground.

This is part of the demoralization phase of a communist coup attempt. Yuri Bezmenov, former KGB agent and defector to the US, explains:

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Long story short, there is a 4 step process that the Soviets used to overthrow foreign governments and install communist puppet governments in their place.

There was a very brief period where people were literally waking up to the corruption of the NOSES in high places. Between 2009-2011 the people were literally gaining awareness.

That is happening again. Kanye West of all people is openly calling it out.

After 2012 and a carefully arranged race baiting media narrative people were put back into cul-de-sac of infighting amongst each other. Race, gender, abortion bans and possibly even the pandemic (we just don't know) - were diversions for us goyim.

That has been going on since at least the end of WW2. This has all happened before, in the 60's and 70's. This isn't even new, just new to this generation.

The media to this day won't speak a word about stagnant wages or any sort of economic issues. Very telling. We are just so fucked.

That's because a Democrat is in office. Wait till the Republicans win the Presidency. It's a very predictable cycle.

Even before Trump got the nomination (which was the start of the panic), the internet was already getting censored. I unironically blame Gamergate for that, since the media claimed it was like the 9/11caust and got all the random jannies and mods everywhere to ramp up censorship on wrongthink.

Spoiler: history autism

The Clinton era was the last time the US government really made an attempt to represent the people. It could be argued that the 2000 election is where everything started. There was election controversy around Florida, and many democrats of the time felt the election was stolen from Gore. From there things just escalated in politics every year, and Bush destroyed the Republican party. His presidency at the time felt like Biden's does now. He was a bumbling retard during speeches, and he regularly embarrassed the country. By the time he left office, the Republican party was chock full of frauds and sexual predators. When people elected Obama in 2008, there was no question he won legitimately. The iPhone comes out in 2007 and social media becomes mainstream around this time. There are a ton of competing apps, and at this point they are all independent companies.

Then came "Obamacare." In the middle of a recession, the Democrats forced through a massive health insurance overhaul and spending bill that forced every single American who wasn't on Medicaid or Medicare to purchase health insurance or pay tax penalties, which got harsher every year until it reached the thousands.

The compromise was that health insurance companies couldn't reject claims for pre-existing conditions and couldn't impose lifetime dollar limits in coverage. In theory.

What happened was that health insurance premiums skyrocketed, and a ton of health insurance companies exited the market altogether. So there was less choice and the plans that remained were shittier because the Democrats decided to tax "cadillac plans" (read: decent insurance) out of existence. I keep saying Democrats because not a single Republican voted for it. This was a new political escalation. Previously, neither party would pass a bill without some bipartisan support.

It immediately got challenged in court and escalated to the Supreme Court. Obamacare was allowed to stay in place by a 5-4 vote, and this is the first time I remember Chief Justice Roberts blatantly compromising his ethics to allow the law to stand.

This caused the birth of the TEA party, which started as a grassroots movement and quickly gained steam. One aspect of it that got astroturfed immediately was that it was nonpartisan and comprised both the left and the right. It stood for "Taxed Enough Already" and was the prototype movement for the sentiment that led to Occupy Wall Street. Both movements got infiltrated by the feds very quickly and broken apart. By this point, (2010-2012) it was blatantly obvious that the public had no appetite for transformative change in either direction. Enter identity politics.

This movement is absolutely artificial, amplified by brainwashed college students that have no life experience to counter yet. At this point, there was a view in society that young people do stupid things, and that if you were patient with them they would grow out of it. Previous generations did. So people tolerated the emotional outbursts and humored the "safe space" type bullshit because it seemed harmless. No one really knew how to react to it.

Students were emboldened by the pacification and continued to push for everything they could get away with. Colleges have become so bloated that they treat their students as customers at this point. Exorbitant student loans tap into the resentment these students have for what they were taught is a systemically unfair system. Everyone in their lives has told them they absolutely need to go to college, but they skip the part where you have to get a useful degree. So liberal arts degrees are now worthless, and you have people with Master's degrees working at starbucks after accruing $400k in debt. On top of that, you've had 4-5 graduating classes at this point completely unable to find work. People started dropping out of the workforce in alarming numbers, and the Obama administration responded by changing the unemployment rate calculation and opening the border. Also, the first of the Baby Boomer generation starts retiring, a lot of them against their will.

The freshmen of 2011-2012 don't experience this hardship. By the time they hit the job market in 2015-2016, the economy is recovering and hiring is brisk. This group has been heavily brainwashed to be political activists in every aspect of their lives and they bring that to the workplace. Workplaces are eager to replace older workers with young, cheap labor and they lean into woke fully. Vague HR complaints are useful to the company when they want to get rid of someone but don't have cause. There are still enough productive workers that they can carry the dead weight. For now.

It's all just gotten worse from there. Now there are no profits and companies are just laying off the activists.

Like remember when that fag Milo was banned from Twitter for making fun of the dumb negress in the Ghostbusters remake? That would've been unheard of in 2012.

Ever since the end of the Bush era, it's become increasingly necessary for Democrats to distort the media and free and open discourse in order to sell the lie that the public supports a "progressive" society. Americans do not and never will support it. Americans want to live their lives and be left the fuck alone by the government. Period.

I think 2012 was the last year I recall seeing people being happy, healthy and confident as the norm.

Since then - bitterness, weakness and ugliness have become the norm. If 2012 was the apocalypse, it was very much a spiritual one.

Social media was in full swing in 2012, and at this point people didn't understand that it was psychologically damaging.

Part of it might be growing up but everyone seems so ugly physically and mentally now, it feels like most people don't have souls and those who do have souls are drawn to one another.

People get really unpredictable as they get increasingly desperate.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

If Americans don't support a progressive society, then a lot of them sure don't care that one got established. They escalated all the way to nationwide drag queen shows for children (and some even featuring child queens) and mandatory reading by middle schoolers of books with drawings of teenage boys having gay sex before serious, organized pushback started. And this shit is happening in rural-ass red state places like Moore County, NC or Cookeville, TN. Even 15-20 years ago, anyone trying that shit in those places would've been arrested for obscenity.

It's like somebody in 2012 noticed how the only pushback they'd get was angry right-wing talk radio hosts and nasty internet comments and went full speed ahead with the agenda, using something mild like same-sex marriage to make the agenda easier to swallow (and build up a big war chest that could be dumped into all sorts of deviancy, like it was starting the minute gay marriage was legalized).

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

2010->2014

Something definitely happened between 2010 and 2014, the amount of media property that just went fucking insane, and completely against the interests of the demographics they were originally operating for is hard to count. The entire internet had this massive violent swing into SJW shit that almost everyone noticed and ended up with nonstop reactionary movements starting with Gamergate and ending with Trump getting elected, which is when the reactionary cause exhausted itself mid 2017. I first noticed the SJW in 2006 on Somethingawful when they started hijacking the moderator positions, by 2009 the site was unusable and I stopped using it entirely, even the specific threads for games or Linux I was involved in was irritating to be in. I started using Reddit for these niche interests and even then I could see the changes starting and by 2015 the site was unusable. 4chan itself is having extreme trouble dealing with this issue as well, they manage it via heavy doses of hostility and derision but the amount of bots is just dragging it down like an anchor around its neck, for christ sake there is still a Trump administration thread /ptg/ being posted in /pol/ 2 years after he left office.

Blaming this on smart phones is partly correct, but also not the whole answer, this was some sort of organized movement and the phone users are just victims of it like anyone else.

 

[Nog]

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2010->2014

Something definitely happened between 2010 and 2014, the amount of media property that just went fucking insane, and completely against the interests of the demographics they were originally operating for is hard to count. The entire internet had this massive violent swing into SJW shit that almost everyone noticed and ended up with nonstop reactionary movements starting with Gamergate and ending with Trump getting elected, which is when the reactionary cause exhausted itself mid 2017. I first noticed the SJW in 2006 on Somethingawful when they started hijacking the moderator positions, by 2009 the site was unusable and I stopped using it entirely, even the specific threads for games or Linux I was involved in was irritating to be in. I started using Reddit for these niche interests and even then I could see the changes starting and by 2015 the site was unusable. 4chan itself is having extreme trouble dealing with this issue as well, they manage it via heavy doses of hostility and derision but the amount of bots is just dragging it down like an anchor around its neck, for christ sake there is still a Trump administration thread /ptg/ being posted in /pol/ 2 years after he left office.

Blaming this on smart phones is partly correct, but also not the whole answer, this was some sort of organized movement and the phone users are just victims of it like anyone else.

/ptg/ is just a tranny circlejerk at this point, full of tripfags like every general. But I guess it keeps them contained.
I think GPT will kill it for good. Sad, because I always liked anon boards more than shit like plebbit which automatically censors anything unpopular, leading to a retarded circlejerk modded by tranny jannies like bardfinn.

 

[George Floyd]

After occupy wall street the jewish-controlled media in USA started cranking out racism articles as an easy way to control the goyim

The civilized world never gave a fuck

 

[Jibbers Cribbers]

One mustn’t blame the white man for all the worlds problems, when in fact it is CLEARLY the Jews perpetrating and instigating all of the worlds fiscal and social problems of life.
Everytime someone blame us whites for everything I laugh at them with great affections.

 

[Whatevermancer]

FYI, I was just joking.

 

[Sneeter Rabbit]

for me i suppose it would be 2008. eurozone crisis, international financial crisis, occupy, russia invading georgia... a lot of things, but mostly because it was the real end of the blair years. i suppose you could lob smartphones and that in with the rest but in terms of offline developments i see a lot of the problems today stemming from the failure to really deal with any of the problems that were inherited from the flabby 90s, only exacerbate them with technological fetishism like a bunch of fucking tribal savages.
i wonder if this is similarly true for others?