Did Hitler Have The Right Idea, But The Wrong Means?

[The Pink Panther]

Think about it. All he wanted to do was make Germany great again. They were left in shambles and economic turmoil after WWI. A stronger government was needed for the country. He was ambitious and took the reigns and fixed Germany. Without him, Germany wouldn't have such good economic standing. The National Socialists served a purpose, to bring pride and power back to Germany. The only reason why people are so ashamed of him is how he did, not what he was trying to do. If the means were better, people would be lauding him.

Hitler may have been a man of his time, a man of racist (and I mean that in the way that one views race like one views a nation) thought, a traditionalist, and a nationalist, but from an objective standpoint, one could say that he was a man of good intention.

 

[HarveyMCR]

t.FBI Honeypot

 

[kūhaku]

Whine all you want about this clip being JP but I’m inclined to believe him here. Hitler likely didn’t have a lot of the extreme views to begin with, like ridding the world of Jews, it was the populous that wanted something to blame and latched onto the Jews resulting in him speaking more about Jews to please the crowds even more.

Inherently, at the start at least, he didn’t have a horrible idea. If anyone here knows about the Weimar Republic, pretty good redpill story, Hitler wasn’t just coming to a nation after a recession but after absurdity in the nation had been rampant for years. It makes total sense to try and make Germany great again, after the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Republic, but he got power drunk and the view was corrupted until WW2 happened where it was at its most corrupt.

 

[Angry Shoes]

Dude Hitler lmao

 

[Nephi]

Hot take: Hitler had the Wrong Idea but the Right Means.

 

[Skully]

Hitler is overrated

 

[Shield Breaker]

Picture of OP


Also, if you Google 'Black Hitler' the first search result is Louis Farrakhan.

 

[The Cunting Death]

 

[BingBong]

The fuck do you mean "wrong means?"

I used the right means mother fucker! SMH

 

[The Pink Panther]

The fuck do you mean "wrong means?"

I used the right means mother fucker! SMH

Why did you have to make school so bad that we would die if we jerked off in it?

 

[crocodilian]

I think nationalism and kicking out Jews was a pretty solid idea, it was all the bureaucracy after that muddied things. Being shot at by the world banks and their creditors also didn't help.

 

[Sunday School Dropout]

Had Hitler focused on the wellbeing of his people and not been a murderous psychopath with the intent of invading his neighboring countries, he would have been fine.

 

[The Last Stand]

Man, I'm not touching this with a 100 foot pole.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Had Hitler focused on the wellbeing of his people and not been a murderous psychopath with the intent of invading his neighboring countries, he would have been fine.

Most of Hitler's problems came from his inner circle.

Göring: In for the recognition, as he had grand designs to become a dictator, himself. But he was not out and out antisemitic starting out.
Himmler: Supreme ideologue, wannabe soldier who was frustrated.
Hess: The First Follower, but also someone Hitler was consistently bored about afterward.
Goebbels: The most dangerous of them all. He was on par with Hitler in terms of oratory, and actually doused the National Socialism government on gas and lit it on fire. He was responsible for the Kristallnacht in great part.
And, lastly, Albert Speer. This is what creative evil looks like, but I want to point out just one thing.

All of these men, while incredibly shrewd politicians, were incredibly incompetent in their given attributions. Speer was given the Ministry of Armaments while he's not even an engineer. The only exception to this is Goebbels.

Himmler lost an entire army detachment in Russia, Gôring could not figure out a good strategy to Blitz the United Kingdom. Hess was literally crazy.

Hitler, himself, was not as competent as he thought he was. He was convinced he was special, a messiah, a savior. He was really just a would-have-been great architect whose zeal and passion captivated a disillusioned audience.

None of these people were geniuses. Which is why the Allies got to utterly destroy them in the long-term of the war.

Without Guderian or Rommel or any of the fine Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine folk, they'd have been ground into dust by the Poles.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Man, I'm not touching this with a 100 foot pole.

Libtards can't debate. #facts

 

[Y2K Baby]

None of these people were geniuses. Which is why the Allies got to utterly destroy them in the long-term of the war.

Neither were Allies. They just had kabbalah on their side.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Hitler was quite the bloody retard. A prime example being when he decided to fire his economic minister that insisted that Germany's economy was not ready for a war, as he wanted to build up Germany's military for a variety of reasons. By 1939, the German economy was in such dire straits that they had to invade Poland partially to keep their economy afloat.

 

[???]

If he had simply stopped after taking back historically German territory from his neighbors (and did it on the sly), he would have avoided war, or at least kept Russia off his border and forced them to strike first.

If he had captured the Brits at Dunkirk instead of letting them be rescued he would have gotten Britain to surrender.

If he had dumped all the Jews and Gypsies on boats to Britain or in Polish territory he could have avoided concentration camps.

If he had engaged in a campaign of sabotage in his enemies territory he could have degraded their warfighting ability and assassinated leaders who were pro-war.

If he had sent light infantry to lead insurgencies in colonies, he could have split British and French forces and kept them off him long enough to defeat Russia.

If he had used Russian auxiliaries embedded with German light infantry, focused on insurgency/sabotage/assassination, and made better use of propaganda (war of liberation against communism instead of war of annihilation against non-Germans, kill your officers and surrender) he could have caused an uprising against Stalin.

If he had gave his commanders more freedom to set goals, strategy, logistics, and tactics he could have avoided a ton of blunders.

If he hadn't killed so many Germans he would have had more manpower later in the war.

If he had kept up military production -especially of defensive armaments - then instead of invading Russia to preempt Russias planned invasion, he could have (along with earlier points I made) let Russia instead invade Poland and sold them weapons. When Britain inevitably sided with Russia, he could have used that as evidence that Britain is a bad ally and gained Poland as an ally, and maybe made the French doubt Britain.

If he had focused on annihilating the RAF after Dresden instead of retaliatory bombing of civilians, he could have destroyed Britain's offensive air abilities and kept the moral high ground.

If he had consolidated his superweapons research he could have beat us to the atomic bomb.

If he had allowed actual mathematicians and engineers to design his cryptographic systems instead of dilettantes, he could have kept his codes unbreakable for the entire war.

Basically Hitler was an a.utistic micromanager and he dun fuked up.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Basically Hitler was an a.utistic micromanager and he dun fuked up.

HitleRTS

 

[Pikimon]

this forums has gotten so braindead in the last 3 years