Did Michael Jackson Do It

[Mariposa Electrique]

@GenderCop . Even in the documentary, the men talked about how he told them women are not to be trusted.

 

[JULAY]

He definitely sodomized those children.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There's a reason your username has the word lemming in it.

Squatcobbler wasn't me calling you a name, it was refference to the squatcobbler scene.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The biggest thing that causes me to doubt the accusations against Jackson is the fact that pretty much all of his accusers have changed their stories at least once. Some have even profited handsomely from making their accusations, so it's not like there isn't a huge incentive to fabricate such a thing. Of course, this doesn't prove that Jackson didn't molest children, but it should at the very least call into question the veracity of the claims that he did.

Personally, I am of the view that Jackson was simply an easy target for such accusations, whether they happen to have any truth to them or not. His public demeanor was that of a deeply immature and psychologically damaged man, who was in all likelihood mentally incompetent. I doubt he was mature enough to understand how his friendships with children could be perceived as inappropriate by most people, and from his perspective, they probably seemed more like childhood sleepovers than anything else. This doesn't mean that nothing sexual or inappropriate went on during the time he spent alone with the children, but without evidence, it's immensely difficult to assess the credibility of such theories.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

ersonally, I am of the view that Jackson was simply an easy target for such accusations, whether they happen to have any truth to them or not. His public demeanor was that of a deeply immature and psychologically damaged man, who was in all likelihood mentally incompetent. I doubt he was mature enough to understand how his friendships with children could be perceived as inappropriate by most people, and from his perspective, they probably seemed more like childhood sleepovers than anything else. This doesn't mean that nothing sexual or inappropriate went on during the time he spent alone with the children, but without evidence, it's immensely difficult to assess the credibility of such theories.

Although the evidence is circumstantial, it's overwhelmingly negative in Michael's direction. Michael Jackson was an adult man when all this started. I'm not relieving the culpability of the victim's parents, but there is no reason a 7-year-old child should be sleeping in the bed with an adult male to whom he has no relation. Even if he had relation to this adult male, it would still be creepy as fuck if it wasn't the child's father. Michael Jackson was not given any puberty blocking shots, you can tell by his skeleton and facial hair, which means, he had the libido of an adult male.....that should be enough to give you pause. If I wouldn't around someone like OPL, I certainly wouldn't allow them around Jackson.
I think these guys want money, yes, but I also believe they were fucked by a kiddy fiddler, who got them addicted to an expensive, jet setting lifestyle. It would be the same as accusing a heroin addicted, drug trafficking victim of trying to exploit her captors for heroin money. Sure, she wants the heroin money, but it doesn't mean she's not telling the truth...it just means she still has a craving for the tools used to exploit her. From the documentary, I got the distinct sense that these two men were warped by the abuse the probably suffered at Jackson's hands, and as a result, a huge part of them still seems to be stuck in that age when they were molested.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I'm watching the show now. As for the parents being stupid, I'm starting to think so many parents were dumb and naive in the 80's and early 90's. This was around the same time or just after the famous crime where Adam Walsh was killed by a serial killer because his mother left him with a bunch of kids in a mall.

That's a reason I think parents allowed their kids to be with Michael.

 

[Medicated]

Although the evidence is circumstantial, it's overwhelmingly negative in Michael's direction.

Well it's easier now, you can defame someone whos dead and have whoever you want say whatever you want. "I once saw Michael Jackson take it up the ass from a donkey while doing a reach around on Mr. Bubbles." Whos gonna stop you now? Who can verify if it ever happened? Hey I'll pay you $10k if you make some shit up about Michael Jackson and appear in my documentary. People will just eat it up. It's free money. Especially if you used to work for Jackson and now have a regular job.

Apparently Michael Jackson was simultaneously a criminal mastermind who beat the FBI at every turn over a decade, and also a mentally deranged man who was still a child in his own mind who needed to be drugged to hell just to get to his own trial.

As far as I see, people start at the "Michael Jackson diddled kids" then rationalize from there, working backwards. Where in 20 years of rumors we've have nothing but words.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Well it's easier now, you can defame someone whos dead and have whoever you want say whatever you want. "I once saw Michael Jackson take it up the ass from a donkey while doing a reach around on Mr. Bubbles." Whos gonna stop you now? Who can verify if it ever happened? Hey I'll pay you $10k if you make some shit up about Michael Jackson and appear in my documentary. People will just eat it up. It's free money. Especially if you used to work for Jackson and now have a regular job.

Apparently Michael Jackson was simultaneously a criminal mastermind who beat the FBI at every turn over a decade, and also a mentally deranged man who was still a child in his own mind who needed to be drugged to hell just to get to his own trial.

As far as I see, people start at the "Michael Jackson diddled kids" then rationalize from there, working backwards. Where in 20 years of rumors we've have nothing but words.

If you have or had any children, would you let them sleep alone with a 30 year old man in the same bed or room for days possibly months on end?.....this is something Michael admitted.

 

[Medicated]

If you have or had any children, would you let them sleep alone with a 30 year old man in the same bed or room for days possibly months on end?.....this is something Michael admitted.

If I was the sort of person who thought I could get something out of him. And if later I didn't get what I wanted, I could exploit the situation to get money from him, sure.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

If I was the sort of person who thought I could get something out of him. And if later I didn't get what I wanted, I could exploit the situation to get money from him, sure.

I never relieved the parents of responsibility. But, don't you think it was MJ's responsibility not to lay in bed with foreign children? This isn't like putting your child through a white trash slip and fall down at the Wal-Mart. MJ is not a slippery tile floor that can't be responsible for anything.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I think this is more of a case of the parents being naive dumbasses who allowed their kids to hang out with a famous celebrity who was seen an eccentric creeper. If Wade was a dancer as a child, Michael could easily take the role as his mentor.
Just like the parents who allowed their daughters to hang out with R Kelly.

Edit: when I was a little kid Michael Jackson wasn't seen as weird, he was seen as cool. So that explains why Wade was so drawn to him at that time.

 

[Niggernerd]

I want to believe Wade Robson. I really do.

But I don't. I can't specifically put words around why, but I don't know, retired professional intuition? I have seen a lot of true disclosures and the occasional false one and... I just don't buy it. I buy completely that Weird Shit went on, but actual offending, no I don't buy it.

Macauley swears blind it did not happen to him and he did not see it happen to anyone else. I believe him. Lisa Marie said it did not happen whilst she was around, and I believe Lisa Marie. She also says that like her father, he was surrounded by a lot of very dodgy people.

I will say this. I think at least some of the parents of the boys who spent time with him were hoping he would do something to the kids. I think if you don't believe there are parents who will whore their kids out, I have some people for you to meet.

I think MJ was a hugely fucked up individual and there was a lot of stuff that went on that was not appropriate. But there is a difference between being a headcase and a weirdo, and being an actual child rapist.

My sister knows more about this normie shit than me and she doesn't believe Wade at all.
Apparently he dated Mj's niece, cheated on her with Brittany Spears who at the time was dating Justin Timberlake, he also had brought his wife and daughter near MJ numerous times and he went to the funeral. If he really was molested why would he do that.
Also apparently he had a grudge with someone during a MJ tour? Apparently he wasn't invited on but instead Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman were.

 

[Medicated]

I never relieved the parents of responsibility. But, don't you think it was MJ's responsibility not to lay in bed with foreign children? This isn't like putting your child through a white trash slip and fall down at the Wal-Mart. MJ is not a slippery tile floor that can't be responsible for anything.

We've pretty much established that MJ wasn't a mentally well man. Just because someone is mentally unwell doesn't automatically make them a pedo, otherwise most of this site are pedos pretending not to be pedos. And MJ was faaaaar too into showing everyone how enjoyed being a kid.

Just because Willy Wonka is an eccentric recluse that wears a purple suit and owns a chocolate factory, doesn't mean he anally raped Charlie.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Why did Michael Jackson have a "stash of pornography as well as sexual imagery featuring children, S&M and animal torture" though.
I mean if there's anything that's going to push me into the "he's guilty" opinion, it'd be that.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Just because Willy Wonka is an eccentric recluse that wears a purple suit and owns a chocolate factory, doesn't mean he anally raped Charlie.

Willy Wanka is a fictional character. Michael Jackson is a real man, with real testicles, who slept with boys in his bed.......?

 

[Medicated]

My sister knows more about this normie shit than me and she doesn't believe Wade at all.
Apparently he dated Mj's niece, cheated on her with Brittany Spears who at the time was dating Justin Timberlake, he also had brought his wife and daughter near MJ numerous times and he went to the funeral. If he really was molested why would he do that.
Also apparently he had a grudge with someone during a MJ tour? Apparently he wasn't invited on but instead Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman were.

Yes the media avoids mentioning that soon after that, the allegations surfaced. It muddies the narrative.

Why did Michael Jackson have a "stash of pornography as well as sexual imagery featuring children, S&M and animal torture" though.
I mean if there's anything that's going to push me into the "he's guilty" opinion, it'd be that.

Did you ever actually read the police reports and compare them to the books listed in the tabloids? If they were the truth, the Jury certainly would've been swayed don't you think?

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I read about how he used to keep weird creepy books that his fans sent him and how he had children's underwear in his dresser. The article I read wasn't a tabloid.

Didn't Johnny Cochrane represent Michael? That guy got everyone off.

 

[Healthyboy /s]

wut?
This is like an election in Africa

 

[Medicated]

I read about how he used to keep weird creepy books that his fans sent him and how he had children's underwear in his dresser. The article I read wasn't a tabloid.

Didn't Johnny Cochrane represent Michael? That guy got everyone off.

Well like I said, people have made up their minds already. I've pretty much said my piece.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Well like I said, people have made up their minds already. I've pretty much said my piece.

Minds can be changed. I used to think he was innocent.