Did YouTube finally kill adblocking apps like SmartTube? - Tons of unusual 403 / forbidden errors

[TORtlEMUStRaNSUS]

There is one thing all races and creeds can come together on, it's that advertisers are the worst sort of jewery.

I know too many people on real life who genuinely feel like ads are a part of the experience. They genuinely feel like they are immune to ads and just "ignore" them,which is just a lie they tell themselves.

 

[AnOminous]

This isn't feature worthy.

Congratulations. I believe that with my Semper Fidelis rating, this post has achieved the feat, nearly impossible, of a post getting every single possible rating. We used to call that "Running the Table." There has not been a documented example in over five years.

 

[WhiteBoySummer]

Brave browser still works for me. To anyone considering youtube premium.

In two years the price you are paying now will be the price for the new "with ads" tier.

In five years every video you have saved to a playlist will be gone, unless you like slime creation and kidz bop.

Don't let them push you around. Read a book.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

A fascinating war this is turning out to be. Ad vs man. That said, worst case scenario Youtube becomes Ad Hell, I'll just hop onto a different platform. Like how Youtube was in the beginning.

That said, this is going to be one crazy war of autism because blocking Ads is a must for people because the idea of what you're watching getting interrupted by an annoying advertisement that breaks the flow of the video on top of the ad being unskippable is a very special kind of frustrating. RIP Xbox bros because they're stuck with the Youtube app that forces them to watch every ad whenever they pick a video that is monetized.

What this really boils down to is Youtube refusing to come up with a new business model that pleases advertisers and creators so they opted on just becoming cable. Emplemon remains right to this day.

 

[sadrefrigerator]

I've been using ublock origin and revanced and have never gotten ads for as long as I remember.

 

[seri0us]

Newpipe Devs disappear for year and latest version is .75

??? The last version (0.27.0) came out this April

 

[TORtlEMUStRaNSUS]

tubular newpipe revanced grayjay
the four who are there bring them here

 

[FILTH Tourist]

You aren't just "a maybe kid watching a kid's show" you are "<Gender>, <Exact Age>, <Near Exact Location>, <List of Hobbies and Interest>, <Shopping for X items>, <part of X, Y, Z communites>, <Strongly Likes X games>, <Political Alignment>, <mostly everything else>"

It is crazy how much you can learn about a person from youtube subscriptions alone. When I taught sociology I did an activity where I took some of my friends and families youtube subscription lists and gave them to my students and create a profile about that person. They got pretty damn close to filling out an accurate guess on what kind of person owns the account including info like age range, political leaning, education status, job, ethnicity, and relationship status, if they have kids/how many kids, and if the account is being shared by a couple or family.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Is the quality noticeably better than Spotify? I've been thinking about switching. I currently use Spotify for streaming on my commute, but I'm becoming less and less satisfied with their service.

Tidal is pretentious as fuck. It's also personally enriching Jay Z so naahhhh. It's content library is also a bit smaller than Spotify's.

Yes. Tidal just merged their highest quality streaming down to their normal price and it's noticable. I think it's still considered "lossy", but if you have a good set of headphones or monitors, you can tell the difference in quality.

There's plenty of nerds that have written articles and I think Tidal carries as the best quality for streaming, maybe just before going full autism and playing FLAC files on a DAP.

Tidal is the perfect music app for Brooklyn hipsters and SF tech homosexuals.

Spotify is "good enough" for 99% of people so it dominates. I get Spotify though a weird plan i was grandfather in at less than the old and new Premium rate. lol

It can't be understated just how recently it became a field of 'study' (for lack of a better word). Maybe I'm talking out my ass here but I want to say somewhere in the first half of the 1900's is when they really started to distill that industry down to a science. Sure you have vintage advertising campaigns for products like Coke earlier that century, but it's not until we hit the 'Mad Men' kind of era that it starts to become the kind of shit we see today.

Advertising pre 20th century was ad copy, catalogues, and door to door salesmen/travelling salesmen.

It existed but mass market consumerism wasn't a thing like it was post WW1.

Remember, most people were Poor and could afford necessities and that's IT. Clothes and shoes would be repaired and a "new fashion" might take weeks, months or YEARS to come form Europe and completely cross the USA.

Radio, cheaper printing and finally television supercharged advertising.

As people became much more materially wealthy and people stopping living on farms or in small farming towns/villages, suddenly you have a LOT more free time to fritter away.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I'll be honest, the adblockers I run don't tend to buckle very often, and when they do the good people working on them usually have things straightened out before long, and maybe owing to that I honestly feel like the ads I tend to see don't feel targeted. At times they feel quite random. The only time I get bombarded with them myself is on the TV's yt app (which over the years has gotten bad to the point where I can't even have the thing on in the background without having to reach for the mute button on the remote every two minutes). I count myself lucky for not having to encounter many banner ads or the sort on my computer or phone. Knock on wood and all. I think about the closest I've received to a personalized ad was a deodorant one because, shockingly, I use it.

Some of it just is unavoidable though - it's hard to express into words how massive the advertising machine is currently.

Going by just your videos (even if you watch signed out, they know where the traffic is coming from) - even if you just watched videos you actually liked on a burner machine that's never existed before the day you used it - they have billions of profiles to compare it to and generate a profile of you by comparison.

Youtube is able to extrapolate more about a person inside of a few hours then most people know about each other their whole lives. It's truly massive (and not just Google, but Meta, Amazon, Apple, etc) and hard to really explain.

 

[IEatNiggersAlive]

Adblocking wouldn't even be a problem for these faggots if advertisements weren't so malicious and intrusive. I guarantee people wouldn't mind seeing a few banner ads on a page that give a rundown of a product, but no pajeet javascript niggers come in and have to shit all over any webpage street with popups, video ads, and other gay shit that make adblock necessary to even browse most "modern" pages. People (excluding FOSS spergs) wouldn't even use these frontends if they put usability over this anti-consumer adware shit big tech does now, but hey, $9.99 a month and you get to watch regurgitated slop from Hollywood with your AI content farms too. Isn't that a great deal?

 

[Mr.Logistics]

I've definitely been downloading as many videos as I can. it's time consuming and I need more space heh.

By the way: Did you try to use yt-dlp on a different video and make sure the 403 is not cause it's age restricted? If you don't mind what general region are you in?

Tried a few different videos always 403'ed. Maybe I'm retarded and missing something vital. None were age restricted.

Asia Pacific is as specific I'll go here.

 

[frozen_runner]

I don't know if this is related, but I can't get ymusic to play or download videos anymore, only active streams. Similar apps like NewPipe have the same issue.

However, the ymusic thing has been a problem for a while. Maybe a couple of months.

 

[dick brain]

Well if the technological solution doesn't work they can always make the government force you to stop using adblockers, Japan is probably salivating at this idea.

Come and take em.

 

[Day of the Cope]

The existence of old TV commercials and super bowl ad complications is proof that people not only don't mind but enjoy advertisements.
The problem is that advertisements are so fucking bland and sterile in the modern era and online ads have increasingly becoming more and more degenerate. I've said this before in another thread, but I really feel bad for anyone with addictive tendencies because the ad scene is overrun with adverts that push vices. It is wild that, in Canada, you can just run commercials that tell you to gamble on your smartphone. "Hey, that thing you have in your pocket? Yeah, use it to spend your life savings!"

 

[Punished Wankula]

Every geriatric U.S. politician would tell you "well commercials are just part of watching television, even on the internet"

Well for one thing, the geriatrics all hate ads too. That's a universal human trait.
But the great thing about lobbying is that it's just bribery under a different name, so if you pay them off well enough it doesn't matter how they feel about it.

Also something something companies have the right to do what they like on their platform

The problem with that is, once the data's on my computer it's none of their business what i do with it.
If they wanted to refuse me service because i refuse to watch ads, that's fine. But it's not what they're doing.
They're intentionally introducing malicious code into their website, specifically designed to interfere with the function of my browser and change or get around what it does.

You could go as far as to argue that this is a form of hacking, which the geriatrics would be real happy to hear about.

If you want to win this fight you'll want to keep it out of the courts.

Shit in one hand and wish in the other, see which fills up faster.
You're not gonna get anything done sitting on your ass.

 

[karz]

If YouTube finally kills the third-party adblocking applications, will you stop watching or will you be a fucking scab and pay for YouTube premium?

There's a lot of shit YouTube can do but I'll be super autistic and use yt-dlp to avoid ads. download my content in 720p, then delete the video after watching.

 

[Checkerboard Hero]

NewPipe is still down, we may end up needing a NewNewPipe if the devs are MIA.

 

[Glowie]

??? The last version (0.27.0) came out this April

Only fixing comment section and pfps. Newpipe Devs are slow as sin.

 

[dvorak]

I don't know if this is related, but I can't get ymusic to play or download videos anymore, only active streams. Similar apps like NewPipe have the same issue.

However, the ymusic thing has been a problem for a while. Maybe a couple of months.

I was using ytmusic just a few days ago for a long drive; worked without issues.