Did YouTube finally kill adblocking apps like SmartTube? - Tons of unusual 403 / forbidden errors

[Spud]

What are you, a socialist?

I do enjoy being social, yes.

 

[Chimplord1997]

Probably off topic to this thread, but I love that even "the worst" CEO, a greedy censorious jew with direct ties to the WEF and most powerful people in tech behind the curtain. Didn't even make the site this bad. All it took was a single jeet saying "Saar we need money." to instantly tank the sites already limited, waining usability.
I'm confident in saying that she was willing to run the site at a massive loss just to maintain control of political narrative and effective monopoly on video hosting/sharing, same as Facebook and Twitter were. But the jeet doesn't care about that as much and simply wants more googol pleh caahds. With ads becoming effectively worthless, they're forced to shovel more and more of them to users in order to get the same value they used to charge, in addition to outright defrauding customers by outsourcing ads to click farms to pump the impression numbers up. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard they're getting splinters trying to claw back the 1% of people who aren't complete niggercattle and install an ad blocker, and the 0.1% of people who are at least smart enough to look up how to sideload an APK to their streaming device of choice.

Indian CEOs are the worst choice possible. All the evil of a westoid CEO, but with that rapey Dhalit persistence

 

[Cryogonal2]

YouTube is fighting a losing war against ad blockers. The amount of extra money they would make is not worth the effort. Ad block users are a minority on YouTube.

It's not about money, it's about sending a message. The message is as follows: "Look, sponsors and higher-ups! We're taking action against the things you claim threaten your income!"

 

[autosarcophagy]

i updated smarttube yesterday but got the error only today and the update was to fix this error. but after a new update it worked again . i always heard that front ends like newpip don't use the YouTube api. fuck google i will do anything to not see fucking ads.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Brave continues to block ads without issue on desktop and mobile

Still is as of 12:11 MST.

I will say this on the AD issue. The COMMERCIALS of yesteryear are fucking dead. I still remember a funny Aflack ad from 20 years ago when i was fucking 3. Why? It was actually a good commercial. I can't tell you a single thing about a Youtube ad, other than they all suck donkey dick. They have gotten fucking lazy and deserve death. They can't even be bothered to SELL me their own product.

 

[FlyingBull]

Every attempt by Youtube to kill adblockers only drives more people to use them.

The streisand effect goes strong with adblocker war nowadays. Maybe it's part of what has youtube doubling and tripling down so aggressively.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

What I don't understand is why ads are so valuable. I have never seen a YouTube ad for a product or a service I would give any amount of money to. Who is buying what these scummy companies are selling on YouTube and are they really buying enough to justify selling the ads with such fervor? Seriously, has anybody here purchased something from a YouTube, banner, or pop-up ad? Is it boomers?

My wife bought tickets to a K pop concert from a YouTube ad, that's the only instance I know of it happening. In video sponsors seem to be more effective.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

This might be true for half of the Google employees but the other half are super autistic trannies with the best programming socks money can buy.

You might jest BUT - Google killed off most of there serious engineering an R&D teams over the last few years from my understanding of it anyway - they had teams working on LOTS of stuff they have just silently an quietly killed off not just the project but the team it's self, so they lost talent they couldn't just redeploy internally but gave them a golden parachute, made them sign a non compete contract and waved them good bye and as I said this isn't just "Internet tech" they have had people working on all kinds of stuff like Battery Tech, Manufacturing Tech, Psychology (for there ad division but they had other teams), Mathematics, Imaging and even machinists they got rid of them all - the only ones they kept on where in some research positions in Cryptography, Network an a few core interests but even then they cut out a lot of them too, and not just new hires but experienced been with them since the beginning kinda people - that's an easy cut BUT an extremely dangerous one.

Say your a 20+ engineer at a company, not exactly day one but as close as can be without insane levels of stock - now back then you where on the tools full time and also had a lot of input and knowledge that current hires at that level couldn't even dream of. But there is a single part you make it's basic but for some reason the bean counters think it's costing too much for a CnC operation because some tooling you have to have custom made and questions start being asked - turns out that the CnC machine you used back then had a slight defect in it's bed leading to this part developing a Bow so you compensated for this by a custom cutter and because you where the guy's grinding them 2 - 3 min making a cutter an doing a tool change was cheaper and the only option realistically available to you at the time.

Fast forward 10 years the company has better machines, and you are more removed from daily manufacturing so is everyone else who made that decision - but that flaw in the machine was fixed or more likely the machine was replaced, but your design changes didn't get up dated so the guys used to firing up the volume production parts cannon start ordering custom tooling to replicate the design to spec you wrote to compensate for the flaw and any other minor parts changes to accommodate that small radius. Well 25 years later the company's looking to cut expense everywhere so basic design reviews are happening and you end up looking at the changes of this old design since you started because it was once really cheap now even allowing for material cost changes, inflation etc the money men want to understand why an if it can be optimised and you have to explain to them how you just saved £500k a year in custom tooling and machine time was cut by 5% because of a decision you made 25+ years ago with a bunch of guys when you where hung over and dealing with Good but not perfect machines.

Now imagine something like that but with something as "fluffy" as software, you might rely on a very old obscure library for something written in Borland C that hasn't been maintained for 30 years or supported for 20 and it's finally broken but it does something that you can't do or the effort to do it will be expensive and time consuming and not just a few guys hammering at code I'm talking months or years of effort and multiple attempts to get it functional or stable.

This is what's starting to happen at Google, people experienced knowledgeable people are getting aged out or aged out an in no way are going back to work for them, and the only people from that era of the company where either senior management an didn't do "tech" stuff or not skilled or knowledgeable or involved in the way you need so it's going to cost you.

This war against adblockers isn't to get adblock users to watch ads its to get them to stop taking up bandwith, isnt it?
I know I won't be able to stomach watching ads before every fucking video.

Google, Amazon an Facebook have the largest CDN's in the fucking world, and I'd personally hate to see what they pay a month for bandwidth alone - Data storage is cheap, Data trans fair is extremely expansive especially at the upper end and even if you own a lot of that infrastructure, it wouldn't shock me to find out years from now this was a C-Suite decision to spaff effort up the wall to recoup a relatively meagre number of non profitable users because of some idea that any lost views of the adverts is worse than just accepting it an refining the adverts an underlying tech.

Since jewtube is an effective monopoly, alternatives will not be slow in appearing or evading their efforts.

Problem is there is no viable alternative, Youtube has not turned much of a profit it's value was always locking in to a service and the technology they could patent an resell - the closest "Tube" site I can think of by use outside of places like Russia an China where there non native services suck donkey dick is Porn sites (an amazon through AWS an Twitch). The problem is the companies a competitor would need to work are owned by there direct competitors so keep it out of reach.

I unironically think this isn't a Tech issue it's a political and business issue and it's going to take international regulation to fix but that's not even close to happening - the only soloution normal people have is to download a video archive it an share it in a one an done format like a torrent where the data's stored locally after the initial download, or some new broadcast torrent like tech etc.

 

[Glowie]

I'm a stubborn motherfucker anyone familiar with umatrix you can blacklist any and connections to advertisement sites, traffic, elements and automate it.

Next step for YouTube. Mandatory account use with limiting browsers to approved data miners like Opera GX, Chrome and Edge.
See what you set your useragent to Netscape or any given old browser and get "your browser isn't supported" screen.

When Google gets desperate only chosen get live inside GoogleTube

 

[autosarcophagy]

I've been using Ublock in Firefox and Newpipe on Android and have yet to have any issues.

I think the version of Newpipe in the F-Droid store is not always the latest version. It's better to install it directly from their website and install updates when the app prompts you.

add the newpip repo in F-Droid
https://newpipe.net/FAQ/tutorials/install-add-fdroid-repo/

 

[Fleetwood]

yt-dlp was giving some new error messages today (connection timeouts) but updated and eventually it worked

 

[Koomala Sharrtis]

I'm sorry to bring it to you, but you are utterly deluded if you believe they would have any technical problems actually shutting down every single adblocking method completely. They can do it at the push of the button. All this is is just testing the waters and softening the blow with a step-by-step approach.

 

[Sergeant Bilko]

If YouTube finally kills the third-party adblocking applications, will you stop watching or will you be a fucking scab and pay for YouTube premium?

I'll download videos and watch them that way. I'm an old tuber. I grew up on the site without video ads and I'll be french fried before I stop using ad blocker.

(edited) I'm on Librewolf using ublock origin; having no problems. hooked up to TV so my big fat keister can watch from the comfort of the lazy boi.

 

[Akerman]

If all adblockers fail you could always just VPN to Russia. They won't advertise there as long as Putler is President, and if they block all YouTube access in Russia then Russian libs could argue they are helping the invasion by preventing people from accessing the truth about Ukraine.

It's either don't serve the ads or the Kremlin, Google.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Adblocking battle will be like the war on drugs, just a constant war with methods to block ads being changed.

Brave is unaffected for me,
Revanced is also unaffected.

I tend to have background videos on but I will never pay and I will always find a way to circumvent ads.

The only way to force people to watch adverts would be to make it law and even then I would break the law.

Total advertiser death!

 

[Gergg]

Absolutely, i've been saying right from the start that the "ad-free experience" YT Premium suppossedly offers is a sham. No chance in hell that the, what, 15 bucks per month will get any of this kind of in-video advertising to stop. I was hoping that some european law would fuck over YT from advertising YT Premium at all due to their untrue claims (AFAIK some EU law made YT Red not possible here when that was a thing, i might be wrong on this) but here we are.
As others have said, imagine paying for YT of all platforms, i'd rather take my chances with Netflix nigger slop.

"Sponsorblock" for firefox/chrome will work for the sponsor segments. There's a community very dedicated to maintaining the sponsor filtering (not going to work for a phone or other devices unfortunately) Its one of the honored few to get a donation from me because it is just that good to never hear about another VPN or mobile bitcoin mining game again.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

There's a community very dedicated to maintaining the sponsor filtering (not going to work for a phone or other devices unfortunately)

Tubular is a fork of Newpipe that integrates Sponsorblock. It works really well, actually.

 

[Captain Ahab]

I’d rather pay for YouTube than for Netflix or Disney Plus. I can torrent everything from netflix and D+ anyways.

I just wish they forced YouTubers to mark sponsored segments and automatically skipped them for prime users. No ads means no ads, YouTube Jews.

 

[The Feline Solution]

"Sponsorblock" for firefox/chrome will work for the sponsor segments. There's a community very dedicated to maintaining the sponsor filtering (not going to work for a phone or other devices unfortunately) Its one of the honored few to get a donation from me because it is just that good to never hear about another VPN or mobile bitcoin mining game again.

Oh sure, i know about Sponsorblock. I was just mentioning how YT advertises an ad-free experience via their at-cost version while absolutely not providing one, they will never get rid of the in-video shilling if they are not explicitly making it a banable offense. Which they wont.

I just wish they forced YouTubers to mark sponsored segments and automatically skipped them for prime users. No ads means no ads, YouTube Jews.

This absolutely should be standard for people who pay, i agree.

 

[Ethan Ralph Is 5'1"]

If you're using any sort of Smart TV function instead of just running an HDMI cable from your computer, it's time to stop.