Wallace/Willis is as useless of a character as we'll ever get. Walrus at least had charisma
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Whelp, good to know they keep shitting up Digimon... Hopefully the second movie craters the next week or god forbid what the next product will be. And yeah, I kneel, I don't need to see anything else related to the adventure crew, ever.
Also, I'll bite, but how is the 2020 series? I've not read... the best of things about it but would like some takes from you lot.
Also, I'll bite, but how is the 2020 series? I've not read... the best of things about it but would like some takes from you lot.
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They should've just gone to space as originally intended. At least then we would've had more Vademon, and therefore more Robert Axelrod being a fruity alien.
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Haha, is this an obscure reference to the end of Ghost Game?
It's a mess. I covered this a bit in the video I linked to @TVB , but rather than keep shilling my content, there's a buddy of mine named The Average Gatsby who has given some decent coverage of it on his channel:
Guy is a huge MATI fan, by the way.
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That's actually somewhat of a mistranslarion. Kakudo recently said that they were gonna find out that the threats were Alien in nature, as in not from the Digitial World or Human world. Not necessary little green men. If you've played Survive, think of the enemies you fight at the end
And Advenjure could have done a lot, as there is obviously a lot of lore in the background that's either explained in the CD dramas talked about by Kakudo himself, and somewhat inferred. The Adventure verse even did Human/Digimon relationships in 2001 way before Ghosh Game, and with everyone getting a Digimon There would be a slew of people using them for nefarious purposes.
Instead we get super special OCs
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Doesn't she, though?
I always think back to this scene whenever the movies try to invent Chosen Children we haven't heard of before. There were clearly always 8 eggs, 8 Digivices, and 8 crests. Then we get a 9th crest out of left field and discover Ken is the ninth child (somehow). Okay, fine. Ken's a cool dude so we'll let it pass.
Then there's Meiko who has a Digivice but doesn't even have a crest?
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Thanks, they were some nice listens, I started watching Digimon 2020 till all of the Ultimates went through the pipeline and kind of just stopped watching out of apathy. I do remember the Mimi Andromon episode and that one was a banger, but was the only thing that stuck with me, sounds like I'm not missing out on too much for giving the rest a pass.
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Because Ken was part of another, much smaller group, that probably came after the first 8. Why do you think people get mad when they ignore Ryo? That's who Ken was with, they even show him in a flashback when Ken is having his fever. There were games for the WonderSwan that go into more detail, but since they brought it out here, we never got them.
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Lore that was dropped into the drama CDs (released during the initial 4 seasons) says that the population of CC was doubling every year, and 2028 was the epilogue chosen because that's when the number would reach human population
1995: Wallace gets a Digimon
1996: 2 people get a Digimon
1997: 4 people have a Digimon
1998: 8 people
1999: 16 people, the 8 were the Adventure cast
2000: 32
2001: 64
2002: 128 (02 kids, dark spore kids
the first CC shown in the flashback are probably only a year or two older than Taichis group, not much older like tri portrayed it as. This is why Rui doesn't work, as Wallace probably got his partner after Homostacy decided to partner Digimon and humans (after the events of the pilot movie). While Rui could have gotten his partner in 96 (and Meiko in 2000) he's not the first.
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I never played the WonderSwan game, although I have heard of it. Regardless, it never really bothered me how they worked it in because Ken was a cool dude either way. He's the best part of 02. Meiko's character bothered me because they weren't even trying anymore--they just stuck her in the story, gave them a 01 Digivice and that was that.
Wait, what the hell? That's not how that shit works. That's actually comical.
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I'm honestly sad the Crests never made another comeback even though the concept of lost/underdeveloped traits/virtues becoming one's strength continued. I think we've seen other symbols on Digimon that could've potentially become Crests, but they never returned after 02.
Though the real question is what would Meiko's Crest even been, anyway? Relevancy?
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Neither have I, this is all information I gathered from when I was really into the show (Ken will forever remain my waifu). All the new characters are Mary Sues/Gary Stus and I have a feeling we'll be getting the same crap with Tamers. I was tuning out when they were showing Lui's back story.
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And I will die on this hill when it comes to Meiko having self-insert vibes.
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I still get a chuckle out of the series where the main guy has to punch the enemy mon square in the face to evolve his agumon.
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She's why I never finished Tri. But damn if her character doesn't make me think of Mary Sue fics from back in the day.
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What's the reason these movies continually inventing or introducing characters we've never seen or heard of before, but are desperately written into the story? It seems like an absurdly simple task to me that if you're going to continue using characters from an old show, then you stick with those characters and continue to develop them, not have them serve as the backdrop for people you audience has never met and don't care about.
It's like, I ordered sushi. Stop giving me french fries.
It's like, I ordered sushi. Stop giving me french fries.
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HT was somewhat successful and Wallace is popular, but Wallace worked because there was a series still running so the focus didn't need to be on the CC. With tri and Begining, the new OCs steal the spotlight.
Tri also received a lotnof backlash for the character portrayal of the original 8 so they're probably scared to mess up again
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Here's an idea: Stop working with the original eight and make original seasons. We don't need more sequels, we just want something different each time. Ignore the Adventurefags and make a new audience.
Fuckin' Toei and Bandai-Namco.
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Biggest problem is that it's what makes money. Had Tri not bombed and had they hired a competent team they probably would have still been milking a teenage CC era
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Well they rendered Taichi's Adventure 01 arc nil in Tri. That was one of my biggest gripes. Everything that Taichi went through and experienced in Adventure 01 kinda showed him that violence was necessary, but only for the sake of saving others. Really simple fucking lessons that they completely abandoned in Tri.
> Yamato couldn't keep his band together, which made sense since Yamato never had the capacity to lead or maintain group cohesion. Then he gets the goggles after Taichi is presumed dead which could have been a pinitol moment for Yamato to step into a leadership role and...oh, Taichi's still alive. Time to give the goggles back.
> Of course everyone hates how they reversed course on Sora's being a tomboy and focusing on her athletics, making her a flower girl instead.
> Koushiro becoming an ambassador of the Digital World seems like an appropriate avenue for the character given it aligns with his interests in digital tech. He also started harboring a crush on Mimi but that...didn't go anywhere? Not sure why they abandoned that, it was kind of endearing to see him step out from behind the laptop for once and pursue an interest in the opposite sex.
> I did enjoy Mimi's conception in Tri, if only because she's the only character that outwardly showed any passion for what they were doing. While not a fan of Meiko, I did like how Mimi devoted time and attention to her in order to make her feel welcome. None of the other characters seemed to care as much which was...odd. But she's the only part of Tri that made Tri even remotely worthwhile.
> For Joe, they did more reversal stuff like they did Taichi. Even more outrageous is they had Gomamon leave him. Frankly, a gesture like that just goes even further to show me the people writing Tri don't understand how Digimon work. Digimon were fiercely loyal to their partners and were always incredibly patient. Joe often had arguments with Gomamon in the past and Gomamon always let it slide.
> I can't even remember what Takeru contributed to Tri. Only thing I remember is him trying to give some support to Yamato when Yamato was depressed and then giving Patamon a big ole' hug as Patamon slowly devolves into savagery.
> Hikari was just a catalyst for bad shit to happen, like she normally is. Hikari isn't a character in the show, she's always a MacGuffin and there's always some something supernatural going on with her that overshadows her character development (or lack thereof). She's not a character I ever disliked, I just always thought she was boring and just there to say, "Oh, that's sad..." when something bad was happening.
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