🎭 Dramacow Dillin Thomas / DHTDillinThomas - The JEB! of "sonic analysts", whines about Sonic ships, gets in fights with every commentary e-celeb

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Captain_AWF said:
A teeny tiny pieces of me wants to feel a little bad for him, because that Rogue dude was harsh as fuck, but then I remember, this is exactly how Dillin treats other people. He starts shit on Twitter over next to nothing, he insults people, posts low quality memes about them with his "Gremlin Squad" (Remember when he legit made someone a mod in his server after finding out they were alogging for him here? Then said he didn't as a "joke"?), demands people show up in voice chat (he loves voice chat because there's no record of what he says), and if they do, he just talks over then the entire time, like, he'll ask a question, and before you can even answer, he's already talking over you, calling you shit, etc.

Dillin got served a spoonfull of his own medicine, and he couldn't choke it down. Simple as that. He has no self awareness, he never owns up to his own mistakes, he never takes accountability for his own actions, and most importantly, he never moves on.

Who's playing bets that's he just reactivates his account in a few days and goes right back to boohoo-ing about stuff?
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I just love seeing Dillin getting a taste of his own medicine.
 
Omni-Thicc said:
Nice. He should delete his YouTube channel next. Maybe getting a real job and flipping some burgers might help Dillin finally grow up.
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I doubt Dillin actually has anything that could give him an actually decent job, and his only obvious tallent is A-Logging CWC and sperging about Sonic, which can only last for so long with how he's doing it.
 
MosileZ said:
If you are honestly ask me, throughout this conversation Dillin sounded a lot like Chris-Chan when he had that 3 hour long conversation with the person pretending to be Casey's dad.

"I'm not doing this, I'm not doing that, I'm not saying I'm a God."

What happened to the cocky smart ass attitude he had last year? In this stream and during his club penguin video he sounds like a scared little boy. Now granted I don't have a deep imposing voice myself, but at least I don't sound like a fucking pussy.
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I was thinking the same thing. Dillin has bravely stepped up to take the place of classic Chris calls.

Rogue was being kind of a tryhard but Dillin has seriously been holding a grudge because one time Rogue couldn't make it to a stream he was doing with Dillin more as a favor to him than anything. Dillin's bellyached about it multiple times, uploaded an unedited clip from Rogue's stream to his channel but acts like Rogue is the obsessed one.
 
Least Concern said:
Thanks.

I generally like Rogue's streams, but I won't side with him here. They both came off like a married couple on the verge of, or soon after, a bitter divorce. And near the end of their show, even if Rogue was really sick, I don't buy that he was so on the verge of death that he couldn't have sent Dillin an email just saying "hey, I can't make it this week." That's just the lowest effort you can make when you've made an appointment with somebody.

But looking through the last few posts here, I guess I'm alone in not just cheerleading Rogue for his performance here.
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Having time to reflect, I still don't have sympathy for Dillin because of the context of him acting like a smart ass, internet tough guy on Twitter that started the whole scuffle in the first place. With Rogue, I will say this that I do understand where he was coming from because again unlike Dillin, Rogue seems to have a lot more he has to deal with and like I mentioned before, is probably not getitng as much help from family unlike Dillin. He's putting himself and his priorities first and foremost and it's understandable.

But I still think that Rogue should've just told Dillin right off the bat months ago that he had no interest in continuing the podcast with him and didn't want to work with him anymore. Like I said in another comment, I understand that Dillin has a shitty track record of holding grudges against people and that Rogue more than likely knew this but I have a good feeling that Dillon would have the sense to not try to start shit with Rogue who has been shown to be pretty confrontational and can be a bit of a loose cannon.

I understand Rogue was sick around that time but still, he could've just sent Dillin a quick message telling him that he no longer wanted to work with him and be done with it. If Dillin took it hard and started blowing up his DMs, Rogue could just block him and that hopefully would've been the end of that. Again I'm not taking Dillin's side on this but just looking at it as fairly as I can.

That being said, it was still entertaining to watch Dillin get a taste of his own medicine of what he does to other people when they come onto his streams., it was very cathartic.
 
Nocturna said:
That being said, it was still entertaining to watch Dillin get a taste of his own medicine of what he does to other people when they come onto his streams., it was very cathartic.
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Rogue did raise a good point that Dillin's entire career is making fun of other people on the internet and yet he's complaining that Rogue mentioned him a handful of times on his stream when his chat brought him up. Dillin trying to pretend he's any kind of professional when his videos are "my ex-friend is a pedophile" and "here's some dumb shit this person in the Sonic fandom did" and "lol I don't care that this person asked me not to talk about how they were sexually assaulted" is ridiculous.
 
Dillin also insisted there be NO mediator/moderator who was neutral. And his suggestions were just plain stupid-- GiBi and Geno Samuel. One is certainly not neutral and the other definitely wouldn't give a shit about youtube drama. If he allowed a moderator to be present, things might have turned out 'better'. But I get the impression Rogue doesn't have any patience for Dillin after he read through this thread so he decided to be as harsh as he was in order to get Dillin off his back once and for all.

Sure, he streamed the same day he said to Dillin he was too sick to do the Cwcville podcast but if he relies on streams to supplement his income and live comfortably it makes sense to host the stream that makes you more money (especially if your job gave you shit health insurance). I think it boils down to a difference in how they treat Youtube. Rogue thought if he just stopped talking to Dillin altogether the business relationship would fizzle out and thought little of it. They weren't talking every day so he doesn't consider Dillin a friend and he had much more important things to worry about. Dillin was the opposite, expecting Rogue to be much more invested and communicative as if they were friends than collaborators. I don't think that makes either person wrong, but clearly their personalities clash way too much to get along.

I don't feel bad for him at all that he put himself at a disadvantage from the start, and seemed like he realized it last minute based on his DMs to Rogue. It probably took all he had in him not to chicken out.
 
Was Rogue "mean"? Sure. So what? Rogue is mean. Dillin is mean. All of these drama-centric 'tubers are "mean". I had no idea who this Rogue dude even was until I heard Dillin bitching about him missing a stream. He brings it up all the time. One time when I was talking to Dillin about potentially doing a show with him, months ago, I remember he saying "now don't go all rogue on me". I thought he was just trying to sound cool but I later realized he meant not flaking on him, even tho I never recorded anything with Dillin because he never got back in touch with me. (I think he wanted to talk about Legacy or Ral4Sal or something else I was involved with, can't even remember) He's complained about Rogue numerous times in his own server.

Rogue made a good point. If Dillin relies on his YouTube channel, he should have had a backup plan. When Rogue pointed this out, Dillin said "I cancelled the show". Yeah, cool. And where did that get you? Dillin has spent months acting like Rogue owes him an apology or something. He should have got over it and moved on, but in typical Dillin fashion, he tried to make it all about himself and it blew up in his face.
 
I'm not gunna lie. So, I follow both of them and are aware of the problems between both. My biggest issue is that DIllion was keeping it calm, trying to talk it out and while Rogue was not interested he was just trying to pretend to be Jim to me. He was being very antagonistic the entire time, picking on him, making fun of him and while it does make sense that he gets a taste of his own medicine. It seemed he wanted to genuinely make amends or ends things amicably, but I don't know. I'm not white-knighting, I just -- really disappointed in Rogue? I had respect for him but I was disgusted by his behavior even if I understand WHY. It put me in a space where I'm really unhappy with Rogue and Dillion should have had a neutral party for it. The fact that he went ON and ON, bragging about his money, his fans, like gross.

Dillion's problem in general is that he has no original content, he doesn't go do a "Week in Weird" or commentary about stuff that seems personal to him? He's a native american, I'm sure there is good rez drama or anything that isn't somehow connected to a Chris related something.
 
WeDrinkRitalin said:
I'm not gunna lie. So, I follow both of them and are aware of the problems between both. My biggest issue is that DIllion was keeping it calm, trying to talk it out and while Rogue was not interested he was just trying to pretend to be Jim to me. He was being very antagonistic the entire time, picking on him, making fun of him and while it does make sense that he gets a taste of his own medicine. It seemed he wanted to genuinely make amends or ends things amicably, but I don't know. I'm not white-knighting, I just -- really disappointed in Rogue? I had respect for him but I was disgusted by his behavior even if I understand WHY. It put me in a space where I'm really unhappy with Rogue and Dillion should have had a neutral party for it. The fact that he went ON and ON, bragging about his money, his fans, like gross.
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Yeah, half of all Rogue did was "lol you don't have girlfriend lol you're gay." Having his girlfriend pop in to say "here bb I got you a beer dinner will be ready soon uwu" was just pathetic. I had low expectations for the stream and I was still disappointed that it was just 20 minutes of two retards trying to talk over each other over stupid shit. It would have been great if it was like the Coach Eli stream, if he just let Dillon talk to dig his own hole without interrupting every 2 seconds to say "lol I better at youtube I make more money than you."
 
WeDrinkRitalin said:
I'm not gunna lie. So, I follow both of them and are aware of the problems between both. My biggest issue is that DIllion was keeping it calm, trying to talk it out and while Rogue was not interested he was just trying to pretend to be Jim to me. He was being very antagonistic the entire time, picking on him, making fun of him and while it does make sense that he gets a taste of his own medicine. It seemed he wanted to genuinely make amends or ends things amicably, but I don't know. I'm not white-knighting, I just -- really disappointed in Rogue? I had respect for him but I was disgusted by his behavior even if I understand WHY. It put me in a space where I'm really unhappy with Rogue and Dillion should have had a neutral party for it. The fact that he went ON and ON, bragging about his money, his fans, like gross.

Dillion's problem in general is that he has no original content, he doesn't go do a "Week in Weird" or commentary about stuff that seems personal to him? He's a native american, I'm sure there is good rez drama or anything that isn't somehow connected to a Chris related something.
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Rogue didn't even want to do a steam, Dillin did.

Rogue wanted their to be a moderator, Dillin didn't.

If Dillin wanted to make amends, he'd have done so before finally getting called out by Rogue for being so salty about ONE stream from ages ago.

Rogue made it perfectly clear that he doesn't care about Dillin, he doesn't want to be friends, he doesn't want to be "ok". He just wants Dillin to piss off and, in his own words, stay in his own lane.

Dillin has talked shit about Rogue for a while now, then when finally confronted about it, pulls the "I just want everything to be ok" card. He's done this time and again with numerous people, only to turn right back around on them again later. Look at how many times he's gone back and forth with Jesse, with me, with literally everyone else he's ever interacted with. Dillin is an opportunist. He only wants to be "friends" when the going is good, and then acts like a pretentious douche the minute he thinks he can get away with it.

I brought up the shit about Jesse back in June, and Dillin wanted to "explain" things to me. He spent half an hour in voice chat defending Jesse, telling me all the usual shit like "they lied about their ages, Jesse didn't know how old they were", etc. Then he went and read a pedofic with him on his YouTube channel, and when it didn't go over well with his own audience, he pointed the finger at me. "Well Awf MADE me read it!" And then six months later, he "exposes" Jesse, and when I say "uh, Dillin, when I brought this up, you defended him", he wants to say he didn't say anything about it then because he was "scared". And then when I made a public post about it, he turns around and says "see guys, this is why I didn't tell Awf anything, because he can't be trusted". Trusted to what? Not make a public post that your YouTube butt buddy might've been diddling kids? Oh, wow, how awful! Funny how he stopped being too "scared" to call Jesse out after they stopped doing videos together.

Heck, going all the way back to all the shit between me and him, all that started because he shilled his own fan comic in the wrong channel in the Legacy server. That was it. We have a dedicated channel for self promotion, and he posted a link to his stuff in the wrong channel. I DMd him about it, just said "Hey, just wanted to let you know this is why your post got deleted, but feel free to repost it in x channel". He was all friendly in the replies, said thanks, whatever. Then we turned around the next day and he was posting on Twitter about how he was "attacked" in the Legacy server and how we wouldn't let him promote his own comic in our server. Fast forward to after all the drama finally dies down, and he's rejoined the Legacy server. So, what does he do? One day he shills his content again.. in the wrong channel. I DM him about it and all and he's just like "fuck it, fuck you guys, I don't care". Dude genuinely thinks rules don't apply to him, and that he's never in the wrong. This is a wake up call he's needed for a while, and he really needs to stop and take a good, long look at himself. The only reason he was ever relevant was because lol Chris Chan. No one read either of his own cringe sonic fan comics, no one's reading The Cyclone, and I've personally seen him throw more than one temper tantrum in his own server because no one takes him seriously. Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child, I dunno. Anyways, rant over. I hope I got the spoiler tag to work right.
 
Lurk Jurk said:
Rogue did raise a good point that Dillin's entire career is making fun of other people on the internet and yet he's complaining that Rogue mentioned him a handful of times on his stream when his chat brought him up. Dillin trying to pretend he's any kind of professional when his videos are "my ex-friend is a pedophile" and "here's some dumb shit this person in the Sonic fandom did" and "lol I don't care that this person asked me not to talk about how they were sexually assaulted" is ridiculous.
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It was a fair point that I don't disagree with. Dillin made his entire YouTube "career" making fun of people but couldn't take it when someone did the same to him. That some people out there don't think he's untouchable when he has his own quirks that can be seen as annoying. This is why it's always good to have some humbleness instead of having an ego the size of Texas.
Unhindered Clown said:
Dillin also insisted there be NO mediator/moderator who was neutral. And his suggestions were just plain stupid-- GiBi and Geno Samuel. One is certainly not neutral and the other definitely wouldn't give a shit about youtube drama. If he allowed a moderator to be present, things might have turned out 'better'. But I get the impression Rogue doesn't have any patience for Dillin after he read through this thread so he decided to be as harsh as he was in order to get Dillin off his back once and for all.

Sure, he streamed the same day he said to Dillin he was too sick to do the Cwcville podcast but if he relies on streams to supplement his income and live comfortably it makes sense to host the stream that makes you more money (especially if your job gave you shit health insurance). I think it boils down to a difference in how they treat Youtube. Rogue thought if he just stopped talking to Dillin altogether the business relationship would fizzle out and thought little of it. They weren't talking every day so he doesn't consider Dillin a friend and he had much more important things to worry about. Dillin was the opposite, expecting Rogue to be much more invested and communicative as if they were friends than collaborators. I don't think that makes either person wrong, but clearly their personalities clash way too much to get along.

I don't feel bad for him at all that he put himself at a disadvantage from the start, and seemed like he realized it last minute based on his DMs to Rogue. It probably took all he had in him not to chicken out.
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Again, Dillin is braindead for not having a moderator, it was so ridiculous. And yeah Gibi would've been terrible as a mod and Geno rightfully wouldn't care about petty YT drama. I think Smokey would've been decent tbh since he wouldn't have bias.

And again, I totally get where Rogue was coming from, he has to put himself first and do the things that make him money which he does get from his streams. I'm not faulting him for that at all. But looking at the situation as a whole, simply telling Dillin from the get-go that he wanted to no longer do the podcast for the understandable reasons he explained in this recent stream would've probably been for the best. It wouldn't have taken Rogue long to do, at most it would've taken about 2-3 minutes to type out a DM and send it to him and end things there. If Dillin sperged out after, then the fault would ALL fall on him for being ridiculously obsessive. I get they weren't ever friends but still, let's not pretend that at the very least, Rogue could've taken a quick 1 minute to type out a DM to Dillin, he's a pretty quick typist going off how he operates on his streams. A simple "Hey Dillin, I'm sorry but I don't want to do the podcast anymore. I just don't find it enjoyable and we don't have the right chemistry for it. Peace" (or something like that, boom done.
WeDrinkRitalin said:
I'm not gunna lie. So, I follow both of them and are aware of the problems between both. My biggest issue is that DIllion was keeping it calm, trying to talk it out and while Rogue was not interested he was just trying to pretend to be Jim to me. He was being very antagonistic the entire time, picking on him, making fun of him and while it does make sense that he gets a taste of his own medicine. It seemed he wanted to genuinely make amends or ends things amicably, but I don't know. I'm not white-knighting, I just -- really disappointed in Rogue? I had respect for him but I was disgusted by his behavior even if I understand WHY. It put me in a space where I'm really unhappy with Rogue and Dillion should have had a neutral party for it. The fact that he went ON and ON, bragging about his money, his fans, like gross.

Dillion's problem in general is that he has no original content, he doesn't go do a "Week in Weird" or commentary about stuff that seems personal to him? He's a native american, I'm sure there is good rez drama or anything that isn't somehow connected to a Chris related something.
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I lowkey think this too, I also felt that Rogue was trying to be Jim as well. Some of the shots he took at Dillin like the girlfriend bit or the cash flaunting was unnecessary. Again it was cathartic to see Dillin just get shat on because he does that to other people. It's just... It's annoying lol. I guess I just expected a little better from Rogue because while he can be an asshole, he seemed to be at least somewhat fair and reasonable. This is just tricky to really assess. On one hand Dillin kinda deserved this but on the other hand, Rogue was being a bit unreasonable.

But agreed, I think we all know that Dillin's content isn't great and the only reason he gets views is because kids watch his Sonic videos and/or Chris Chan. His other content doesn't even get half the fraction those videos get and even then, there are much better commentators who commentate on those subjects. Dillin was just lucky that he was one of the first to do it back during the early days of YouTube commentary but since then, more channels have come out and do a far better job than he does.
 
Captain_AWF said:
Rogue didn't even want to do a steam, Dillin did.

Rogue wanted their to be a moderator, Dillin didn't.

If Dillin wanted to make amends, he'd have done so before finally getting called out by Rogue for being so salty about ONE stream from ages ago.

Rogue made it perfectly clear that he doesn't care about Dillin, he doesn't want to be friends, he doesn't want to be "ok". He just wants Dillin to piss off and, in his own words, stay in his own lane.

Dillin has talked shit about Rogue for a while now, then when finally confronted about it, pulls the "I just want everything to be ok" card. He's done this time and again with numerous people, only to turn right back around on them again later. Look at how many times he's gone back and forth with Jesse, with me, with literally everyone else he's ever interacted with. Dillin is an opportunist. He only wants to be "friends" when the going is good, and then acts like a pretentious douche the minute he thinks he can get away with it.

I brought up the shit about Jesse back in June, and Dillin wanted to "explain" things to me. He spent half an hour in voice chat defending Jesse, telling me all the usual shit like "they lied about their ages, Jesse didn't know how old they were", etc. Then he went and read a pedofic with him on his YouTube channel, and when it didn't go over well with his own audience, he pointed the finger at me. "Well Awf MADE me read it!" And then six months later, he "exposes" Jesse, and when I say "uh, Dillin, when I brought this up, you defended him", he wants to say he didn't say anything about it then because he was "scared". And then when I made a public post about it, he turns around and says "see guys, this is why I didn't tell Awf anything, because he can't be trusted". Trusted to what? Not make a public post that your YouTube butt buddy might've been diddling kids? Oh, wow, how awful! Funny how he stopped being too "scared" to call Jesse out after they stopped doing videos together.

Heck, going all the way back to all the shit between me and him, all that started because he shilled his own fan comic in the wrong channel in the Legacy server. That was it. We have a dedicated channel for self promotion, and he posted a link to his stuff in the wrong channel. I DMd him about it, just said "Hey, just wanted to let you know this is why your post got deleted, but feel free to repost it in x channel". He was all friendly in the replies, said thanks, whatever. Then we turned around the next day and he was posting on Twitter about how he was "attacked" in the Legacy server and how we wouldn't let him promote his own comic in our server. Fast forward to after all the drama finally dies down, and he's rejoined the Legacy server. So, what does he do? One day he shills his content again.. in the wrong channel. I DM him about it and all and he's just like "fuck it, fuck you guys, I don't care". Dude genuinely thinks rules don't apply to him, and that he's never in the wrong. This is a wake up call he's needed for a while, and he really needs to stop and take a good, long look at himself. The only reason he was ever relevant was because lol Chris Chan. No one read either of his own cringe sonic fan comics, no one's reading The Cyclone, and I've personally seen him throw more than one temper tantrum in his own server because no one takes him seriously. Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child, I dunno. Anyways, rant over. I hope I got the spoiler tag to work right.
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Right and I think we all understand that. We all understand that Rogue made it very clear numerous times that he didn't want to do the stream and found it pointless but the question is why did he give in and do it? Especially when Dillin didn't want a moderator? The latter should've been a huge red flag that he shouldn't have went through with it.

He could've just told Dillin to fuck off and stop asking for a debate and that it will never happen because it won't go anywhere.
 
Nocturna said:
Right and I think we all understand that. We all understand that Rogue made it very clear numerous times that he didn't want to do the stream and found it pointless but the question is why did he give in and do it? Especially when Dillin didn't want a moderator? The latter should've been a huge red flag that he shouldn't have went through with it.

He could've just told Dillin to fuck off and stop asking for a debate and that it will never happen because it won't go anywhere.
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Probably because Rogue has dealt with Dillin enough to know that wouldn't have worked. He HAS been doing that, this entire time. Rogue hasn't "gone after" Dillin or anything, until in one of his recent streams, someone else brought Dillin up, and he said "fuck that guy, I don't care about him". Instead of Dillin doing the logical thing and thinking "oh, Rogue doesn't like me, I should do literally anything other than instigate him to stroke my own ego", he did.. exactly that. Rogue and Dillin are both "bullies", Dillin just got out-bullied. The reason why he doesn't deserve any slack is because this is what he does. This is the Dillin cycle. And it's nice to see someone finally put their foot down and tell him to go eat crow. It's like seeing a schoolyard bully start shit with a tougher bully and get his has kicked. Like, yeah, they're both dicks, but you don't feel sorry for either of them.
 
Will Dillin actually learn his lesson or will he continue the cycle? That is what remains to be seen.
 
A friend of mine in a server I'm in shared this with us. A lot of people in said group believe he is doing this in order to actually better himself. I'll be completely honest and say I think he's full of shit.
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MosileZ said:
A friend of mine in a server I'm in shared this with us. A lot of people in said group believe he is doing this in order to actually better himself. I'll be completely honest and say I think he's full of shit.
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If he's being honest, good for him, and I wish him the best. But he's got a lot of work to do before anyone should take him seriously. This is definitely step one, but it's like step one of one of those one thousand step staircases. He's got a looooong road ahead of him.
 
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