Dindus beat disabled guy saving a turtle...

Marvin said:
Terrapin soup used to be a delicacy on the US east coast, to the point where they were almost fished to extinction in some areas.
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This is true. If you look at the tourist sites in the DC area they often have historical menus for restaurants, Presidential inauguration receptions, country estates, etc., and turtle soup is almost always on the old ones. (Then again Lincoln's Inaugural reception also had possum on the menu-- a reminder that the area is a swamp.)
 
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I think the only time I had turtle soup was in New Orleans. TBH I couldn't taste anything unique about it. I kind of wonder if it's like shark fin soup in that most of the flavor comes from the broth. Or maybe they just didn't put enough turtle in it.

AnOminous said:
Why did I write that post? Oh, yes. I know now.

Do you know what theodicy is? If you believe in God, you should. If there is an omnipotent God, why does evil exist?

That's an interesting thing. But get back to the original terms. What even is evil?

How do we distinguish between the absolutely necessary bad things we do every day and evil? We're all evil, if we simply take the definition of causing harm as being evil.

This dindu example is a perfect example of pure evil. The villains in the story were torturing and murdering an innocent creature for no reason at all other than just enjoying its suffering. A noble, if stupid individual intervened for no reason and with no benefit to himself, and then the evil motherfuckers stomped him.

Stories like this are compelling and make good clickbait for reasons like this.

But to get back to evil, this is an example of it. Supposed humans were doing something utterly disgusting, because it was pointless and directed at nothing other than causing pointless suffering, and someone intervened to stop their "fun." They then attacked that guy.

I wonder at this point if I'm talking about myself too much.
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Yeah, I mean if someone kills me and takes my wallet, that's not a good thing and he needs to go to prison but maybe he should get out in a few decades like Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption. But if someone kills me and leaves the wallet and just did it for the lulz, then seriously fuck that guy don't ever let him out.

After I posted here last night about how I boil lobsters and don't care that much I started going down the rabbit hole about what amount of inflicting pain on an animal is ethical. Like catch-and-release fishing: jabbing a metal hook through a fish's mouth and then yanking it up to suffocate just for the fun of it is at best iffy. Counter-intuitively, killing and eating that fish seems more ethical. Keeping a fish or a frog alive just so you can pick it apart and eat it while it's living, like they do with ikizukuri in Japan, seems more obviously fucked up.

We've overfished cod and halibut to the extent that we've actually replaced them as the main predators of lobsters, and getting boiled alive real quick is probably a better end then getting chomped into by a fish. So ultimately it's probably working out best for everybody. :)
 
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As someone who's worked in some culinary fields, the "Boiling the lobster alive" thing is done for practical reasons.

Shellfish meat isn't like Beef or Poultry. It's a hell of a lot less dense and packed full of all sorts of bacteria. While it's alive, most of the bacteria are dormant.

But the instant it dies, they go into overdrive towards decomposition. I'm talking about the meat becoming potentially useless/dangerous within minutes. The low-density of the meat means it can be broken down fast, releasing all sorts of decomp-related toxins as it's tissues literally turn into sludge.

Boiling it before death (Or within an extremely short time after death) kills off these bacteria before they can go to work and thus leaves you with tender, tasty meat.

Meatier parts like the Tail are usually okay to keep or freeze before cooking, as they're more dense and won't break down as fast, but the rest of the lobster is really dangerous to try and keep raw.

This is the same reason you don't open Oysters or Mussels until right before you eat them. They literally go bad THAT FAST.



Now that the sperging is settled...

Fuck them. That turtle was helpless.
 
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So Black Lives Matter...but let's kill turtles for the hell of it!

I cannot fathom why anyone would want to ignore BLM.
 
AnOminous said:
This is the funny thing about being carnivorous. People who do awful things to animals as an industry just so we can eat them are totally fine.

The moment people do shit not even half as bad, but they're not doing it for food, they're just doing it because they're sick fucks, even ardent carnivores freak the fuck out and hate them.
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That's true, but people typically have respect for the food we eat. There are laws in place to make sure animals aren't treated like complete shit before they are slaughtered. We have agencies that inspect, fine, and will even shut down animal processing centers that break the rules constantly.

Stories like this are disgusting because they were just doing it to be asses. I do agree though 100 percent about people bending over backwards to chastise someone who doesn't treat their animals a certain way, but don't see the hypocrisy of them being so critical of the way others treat animals while remaining meat eaters themselves.
 
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Un Platano said:
If it makes you feel any better the turtle might have lived. Turtles are indestructible according to many reports like this one
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What a great story!!! I like at the end of the article, they make sure to mention that the woman's windshield was indeed eventually repaired after the turtle went through it. The whole time listening to her story, all I kept thinking about was "what about the windshield? Did they fix the windshield?" Thankfully, my fears were alleviated when I found out the windshield was indeed repaired.
 
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Coleman Francis said:
That's true, but people typically have respect for the food we eat. There are laws in place to make sure animals aren't treated like complete shit before they are slaughtered. We have agencies that inspect, fine, and will even shut down animal processing centers that break the rules constantly.

Stories like this are disgusting because they were just doing it to be asses. I do agree though 100 percent about people bending over backwards to chastise someone who doesn't treat their animals a certain way, but don't see the hypocrisy of them being so critical of the way others treat animals while remaining meat eaters themselves.
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See, "doing it to be asses" is irrelevant. That's the point. Motivation doesn't matter that much if the end result is the same.

For example, if they were boiling the turtle to eat it, compared to just boiling it to be dicks, the end result is still that a turtle gets boiled to death. (I know they weren't boiling it in this case.)

I think (perhaps not you specifically, but) many people would lose their shit if they were boiling it for fun, and many of those same people wouldn't give a shit if they were boiling it to eat it. That's inconsistent.
 
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Yhwach said:
It takes a special kind of person to beat up on defenseless animals and the disabled person that tried stepping in. Fucking degenerates.
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I 'member when those special people had special schools, special doorways and special seats on the bus.
 
Marvin said:
See, "doing it to be asses" is irrelevant. That's the point. Motivation doesn't matter that much if the end result is the same.

For example, if they were boiling the turtle to eat it, compared to just boiling it to be dicks, the end result is still that a turtle gets boiled to death. (I know they weren't boiling it in this case.)

I think (perhaps not you specifically, but) many people would lose their shit if they were boiling it for fun, and many of those same people wouldn't give a shit if they were boiling it to eat it. That's inconsistent.
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That is more than likely true for most people, however me personally, I'd respect the effort it took to bring a pot of water, a hot plate, an extension cord and a generator to whatever street corner they were on to boil the turtle for fun. Just smashing it on the sidewalk though, that's cruel AND lazy.

True story though, there was a kid in the neighborhood I saw do the exact same thing when we were kids. Last I heard he was in prison for something or other. I think a lot of kids who do overly cruel shit to harmless animals end up on the wrong side of the law. What makes this story extra wierd though was the fact that one of these guys was 25 IIRC and the youngest was 16. You would think they would have moved on to robbing liquor stores or something.
 
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