Disassociative Identity Disorder / Multiple Personality Disorder: is it real? - Armchair psychologist go to war.

[AMHOLIO]

So we know Plurals/Multiples/Systems are fat and gay fakers. But does any sort of DID/MPD exist?

I'd actually like to push back on this slightly. I took some psych classes in college, but that's it. So, don't take anything I say too seriously. I think DID is real, but it's nothing like these people depict it.

DID is not having multiple personalities or “alters.” It's literally in the name: dissociative identity disorder.

You check out of reality entirely. If you're capable of doing anything in that state, it's mundane activities that you do regularly and require no real thought: washing dishes, taking a shower, vacuuming, etc. Movements are robotic, and you're not carrying on any conversation. That is, if you aren't just sitting totally still and sporting a thousand-yard stare. Either way, you won't remember anything.

Maybe you were severely beaten and screamed at as a child, which might mean loud voices or physical pain cause you to dissociate. If you were locked in a soundproof closet for prolonged periods as punishment, then silence will cause you to dissociate.

This isn't something that happens because mommy raised her voice sometimes or daddy spanked you once or twice. We're talking severe and prolonged trauma at the level that gets children completely removed from the custody of their mothers.

Like I said, there's no switching to “alters.” With abuse this bad, the only way the brain can cope is to shut the fuck down.

Also, as we're all very aware, there's no hard science on this. We're all just tossing out ideas and speculating. So, again, don't take what I say too seriously.

Meanwhile, I was shown this documentary in my Abnormal Psych 101 class:

What are your thoughts? Is everyone fake and gay? Discuss.

 

[NigKid]

Nah I'm pretty sure it's real, it's just rare as fuck as there have to be a lot of things happening for the brain to do that. That's why you don't really see them represented, they're mostly in some clinic being miserable. They dragged 2 of them on TV a year ago where I live and that amount of suffering is not something you can play

 

[Chilson]

There is enough evidence from the few who suffer from it that that its a real disorder, but far too few people suffer from it to have any consensus on symptoms, causes and treatment.

Anyone who claims they have it on twitter though, like most people who claim mental illness on social media, absolutely does not have it.

 

[Helvetica]

i think it's real, but extremely rare, and the nature of it means fakers are attracted to it.

i know some psychologists think it's real but argue it's an extreme form of schizophrenia rather than a different illness, which is pretty interesting to me

 

[Doppio Vinegar]

Honestly the part I hate the most is that there's no "definitive answer." That's why those Twitter tards are able to fake it without consequence: they made their own DID lore despite there being no science behind any of it, and if you mention that they made this all up, you're an ableist who doesn't know what these people went through. I personally believe DID is "real," but is a subsect of psychosis/schizophrenia where you're not actually "switching alters" but are undergoing a psychotic episode.

My favorite is when they claim to have "polyfragmented DID" (when they have a very high number of alters), which has only been shown to show up in severe trauma like being part of a child sex ring. I don't think your mom telling you to take out the trash is enough trauma for the entire cast of MCYT to show up in your brain.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

I don't believe it exists. It's a bit weird to me that it seemingly only exists in the western world and mostly in white people at that. If it was an response to trauma you'd see it in the survivors of genocide or former child soldiers, but you don't.

That said, I do think that there's a small amount of people who don't know that they're faking. They have just been more or less gaslighted by their psychologists into thinking that they suffer from it. Like the satanic panic more or less.

 

[Grub]

Yes. I've actually had to deal with a person like this. It's very unsettling. That movie split is actually closer to reality than you'd think apart from the ending.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Yes, but it's likely the most faked disorder next to retrograde amnesia.

 

[totallyrandomusername]

I would say No. I know a number of people that have been providers in the fields of psychology/psychiatry for decades that have never seen a true DID.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

DID is patently a fake diagnosis.

Why DID or MPD is a Bogus Diagnosis

DID: Dissociative Identity Disorder—or Dangerously Inaccurate Diagnosis?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[Troonos]

No. There are no diagnostically valid cases in history.

 

[Luke gama]

I don't believe it. It appeared out of no were.
Just after a movie About personality disorder called Sybil came out.
all the cases came from Handful of therapists like recovered memory syndrome.

Disassociation, depersonalization are real.

I've read loads about mental illness and the diagnosis of it and how diagnosis differs from country to country I've never heard it mentioned in serious books.

The idea of these different fully formed personalities that share brain and know of each other makes no sense.

And if real cases were known so many professions that involve the brain would be testing these people as they would give a unique insight into the brain just like psychologists psychiatrists neurologists all study people with brain injuries and those brain injuries have given us the deepest insight into what area of the brain do.

The second world war kick starting many discovers about the brain NJ because of so many good test subjects.

Real DID subjects would be mentioned and passed around these disciplines and the individual people would be mentioned in many different text books about many subjects.

A few dodgy therapists still push it often because their is money in validating the the stereotypical DID claimer.

Watching it on tiktok is like watching the worse of people, how do they bare faced just get on camera and lie and so many of them. And they meet up in person and just bullshit each other.

Come on DID done updated now people have streamer,computer character, and general fandom alters I don't remember the original population of multiple personality disorder cases have personality have were fictional characters.

It also makes me think that a lot of these new genders aren't just people who got mixed up in the culture but are people just straight up lying. 90% of DID fakers are LGBT as well,.

Sorry I wasnt more concise.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Sorry I wasnt more concise.

Dude, you're in the thunderdome of deep thot, you can be as messy and detailed or sharp and quick as you want.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

DID is not a thing. It’s factitious disordered borderlines trying to appeal to naive or fame chasing psychologists. And the public eats it up reinforcing the stupidity.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I think it's fake.

 

[who dare wins?]

Eh, from my knowledge and others in this thread it appears that it could be very much real. However, the ones that do have it likely have a multitude of other disorders as a consequence OR this is just a byproduct of other mental illnesses going on like schizoaffective disorder. Even then we can only carry out clinical tests in order to see if you fit into such a criterion anyway, people can lie into that so even then it's hard to prove and disprove at the same time.

Anyone who has DID likely suffers from extreme schizophrenia of some sort, you cannot have just DID alone without having some voices or psychosis occurring to you at all times. It is simply fucking impossible for you to keep switching between them without that fucking up your perception of reality or how you act. They are likely locked up in a mental asylum for the other disorders they have.

Anyone online who claims to have DID and nothing else (depression doesn't count you fucking retard) is definitely lying or buying into their own autistic larp. no other way around it

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I think DID is real but it doesn't work like Fight Club or these faggot tiktokers think it does.