Discord, big data, and pedophiles - The application of data science to Discord degeneracy

[Outer Space Traveller]

This statement is more true than most people think.

• have a new game that's being released? JOIN OUR DISCORD COMMINUTY!!
• have a new show that's airing online and/or subscription service? JOIN OUR DISCORD COMMUNITY!!
• do you use a certain app on your phone and are having technical issues? JOIN OUR DISCORD COMMUNITY!!
• want to take part in a wiki? JOIN OUR DISCORD COMMUNITY!!

IT'S FUCKING EVERYWHERE

This is why I have respect for those who are able to collaborate respectfully and without drama in a working envoirnment, meeting eye to eye. I believe some people even refuse to have a Xitter/Discord and prefer to answer inquiry via e-mail.

 

[Day of the Cope]

And with the recent spy.pet drama, don't forget: not only do you have to join our Discord community if you want information about our project, but you're also never allowed to take any of the information with you on your way out the door!

You know, this whole thing made me realize how far we've fallen from the advice of "never reuse your passwords". Like, part of the reason I miss the golden day of forums is because you didn't need to worry about losing your ability to post in one community because another community doesn't like you. But the other reason is because of what we're seeing as a result of spy.pet: tying as much of your life up in a single, centralized service is just as, if not more than, dangerous as reusing passwords.

 

[copy_my_floppy]

Insanely retarded that Discord will ban using bots slightly wrong but won't ban all these pedophiles. Did they ban you for logging in like it was a user or something else?

the bot owner account was banned due to association with a server that "posted and engaged in threat or harassment of protected individuals"

 

[Markass the Worst]

the bot owner account was banned due to association with a server that "posted and engaged in threat or harassment of protected individuals"

I almost forgot that Discord takes the flamethrower approach to moderation and that when they ban a server for violating ToS, they will just shoot everyone in the server first and ask questions later.

 

[Battlefield42]

I almost forgot that Discord takes the flamethrower approach to moderation and that when they ban a server for violating ToS, they will just shoot everyone in the server first and ask questions later.

i got the taste of that myself. i guess saying nigger and faggot is le bad if someone snitches to tranny(pedo)cord

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

It's really sad that the only outlet that will listen to you is the Farms

I think the rot goes far deeper then you think my brother

 

[grand larsony]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/policies-and-agreements/developer-policy

Small update. Discord has updated their developer policy yesterday and made a couple noteworthy changes for bot devs. Here are the two relevant lines:

16. Do not use API Data to: profile Discord users, their identities, or their relationships with other users;
21. Do not use message content obtained through the APIs to train machine learning or AI models (including large language models) unless express permission is granted by Discord.

✔ Openly being a pedophile
Profiling or tracking pedophiles
Just another day in clown world I guess.

They also added these two lines, presumably targeting spy.pet and similar services
17. Do not disclose API Data to data brokers, advertising networks or services, or any other monetization-related service.
18. Do not sell, license, or otherwise commercialize API Data or any of Discord’s services (as defined in our Terms of Service, e.g., Nitro subscriptions).

 

[Toolbox]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/policies-and-agreements/developer-policy

Small update. Discord has updated their developer policy yesterday and made a couple noteworthy changes for bot devs. Here are the two relevant lines:

16. Do not use API Data to: profile Discord users, their identities, or their relationships with other users;
21. Do not use message content obtained through the APIs to train machine learning or AI models (including large language models) unless express permission is granted by Discord.

✔ Openly being a pedophile
Profiling or tracking pedophiles
Just another day in clown world I guess.

They also added these two lines, presumably targeting spy.pet and similar services
17. Do not disclose API Data to data brokers, advertising networks or services, or any other monetization-related service.
18. Do not sell, license, or otherwise commercialize API Data or any of Discord’s services (as defined in our Terms of Service, e.g., Nitro subscriptions).

How hard is it actually to be allowed to develop and publish bots? If they haven't actually strengthened their barrier of entry, this is all just lip service to the screechers. It's not going to stop people from archiving and selling Discord user data if they don't release it publicly like spy.pet, and if it's easy enough to start up another account to keep making bots it won't stop another spy.pet either. Unless Discord is going to try and sue people for breaching this policy, which I cannot see happening.

 

[grand larsony]

How hard is it actually to be allowed to develop and publish bots? If they haven't actually strengthened their barrier of entry, this is all just lip service to the screechers. It's not going to stop people from archiving and selling Discord user data if they don't release it publicly like spy.pet, and if it's easy enough to start up another account to keep making bots it won't stop another spy.pet either. Unless Discord is going to try and sue people for breaching this policy, which I cannot see happening.

For bots under 100 servers it's super easy, you just click a couple buttons and you're good to go. However, once you pass 100 servers you have to do ID verification, which means if they ban you once, it's probably a real pain in the ass to get a new bot up and running since you'd have to use someone else's ID. Spy.pet is a little different though, since they're botting normal user accounts instead of accounts that are openly displayed as being bots.
I don't know how much they really plan to enforce this, nor how much they'd be able to if they tried. As long as you don't put it in big flashing letters that you're violating their policy, they won't really know. Personally, my bot will no longer be using user data to train AI, in accordance with their new policy; instead, it'll use a completely opaque mechanism which appears very similar to AI, but definitely isn't.
As far as I know you're right that they can't really sue spy.pet, since violating a platform's policies isn't something they can fight in court. Then again though, Ruben Sim got sued by Roblox for, as I understand it, basically just doing some trolling on alt accounts. So who knows?

 

[Tread Miller]

Apologies if this is already covered, but do the logged messages include other langauages, or only English messages? I'm curious if the bot picked up the Spanish/Chinese/whatever equivalent of "I like to diddle kids."