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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
In the sense that Tuesday is better than Monday, yes.
Well I don't know what you really want in a Marvel film nowadays unless you just want a word for word adaptation of the comics to film?

For me personally I like my Marvel films to be light-hearted fun just like in the comics but can get serious when they have to. I don't want them to go in the direction of what they did with the dceu with it being dark and gritty with every film.

My solution to your cynicalism is just enjoy them for what they are and don't try to look any more deep into them. This is the kind of behavior that I saw when everybody was trashing Captain Marvel despite the fact that it was an okay to pretty middle of the road flick.

Personally I just want them to introduce the fantastic four and X-Men into this universe so it could be like every single other bit of Marvel content that you see. Something about the avengers without the X-Men or F4 is just like seeing NSYNC reunite without Justin Timberlake for example.
 
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The guys of Encyclopedia Dramatica also noticed that detail. https://encyclopediadramatica.online/File:Randall_Recess_Cartoon_-_Happy_Merchant_Face.jpg

On a slightly off-topic note, some folks wondered if corporations have learned anything from the Disney fiasco?
May 8, 2022

Are corporations learning from the Disney fiasco? It’s not clear.​

By Andrea Widburg

Disney originally opted to keep quiet about Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Act, which keeps gender identity and sexuality instruction away from five- to eight-year-olds. However, in response to pressure from an allegedly small cadre of employees, Disney’s CEO, Bob Chapek, announced that Disney would fight the law. Disney’s market share took a nosedive and Florida created a new law ending Disney’s special self-governing status. Within a few days, Zeno, a huge public relations firm, told its major corporate clients that discretion about abortion was wise...only to ignore its own advice the moment that advice went public.
Zeno, a subsidiary of Daniel J. Edelman Holdings, describes itself thusly:
What It Means To Be Green
We are purpose driven and committed to a culture that invites everyone to be their authentic self, to push limits and to embody our 'Fearless Pursuit of the Unexpected'.
Given the world we live in and the need for business to be more and do more, our purpose is embedded in our everyday actions and inspires all that we do for our clients and ourselves to make a positive impact on people's lives and in society.
Our Purpose
We champion the courageous to achieve something better for humankind.
There's more of this mindless palaver at the link. Simply put, Zeno works with corporations to make sure that their corporate pronouncements enhance, rather than detract from, their brand. And Zeno’s got some big-name clients: Coca-Cola, Netflix, Starbucks, Salesforce, etc.
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On Friday, word broke that Zeno was suggesting that its clients keep quiet about abortion because it’s a fraught subject with lots of disagreement:
Do not take a stance you cannot reverse, especially when the decision is not final. This topic is a textbook "50/50" issue. Subjects that divide the country can sometimes be no-win situations for companies because regardless of what they do they will alienate at least 15 to 30 percent of their stakeholders… Do not assume that all of your employees, customers or investors share your view.
Zeno also told its clients to try to avoid the whole abortion news cycle and not to articulate a company position. That’s smart advice. Sell your product, not your values.
Immediately after this news broke, though, Zeno itself promptly took a stand on abortion, while acknowledging the possibility that others might disagree:
Recent news coverage has prompted Zeno to clarify our position on how we believe corporations should respond to the SCOTUS leak regarding Roe v. Wade, and other complex societal issues.
Guidance that went to our staff and clients has been misconstrued by some as telling clients to stay silent. This is simply not true, and does not accurately represent our point of view.
Yesterday, we posted the following statement:
“We take seriously our responsibility to help clients proactively navigate complex societal issues, actions they may take and the accompanying communications, internally and externally."
"We know and understand that companies are increasingly expected to take a stand on major issues, and we believe it’s right to do so when it is authentic to the organization, and consistent with their values and actions."
"We believe in equal access to healthcare for all, and a woman’s right to make decisions about her healthcare. At the same time, we live in a world with different opinions and different views, and we respect those differences.”

As a female-led agency, Zeno has been and will continue to be staunch advocates of women’s rights. We firmly believe that women have the right to make their own decisions, especially when it comes to their bodies and their health.
That’s bad PR, ladies. You’re not saying that your earlier email is erroneous, and it’s pretty clear that the wise corporation should stay silent. Nothing you said has been misconstrued, but now that you’ve got pushback (probably from a small cadre of extremists in your company), you’re proudly pro-abortion. What’s sad is that it’s a virtual certainty none of your clients will care. Let’s just hope, though, that they’re wiser than you are about staying silent on a divisive subject.
 
Well I don't know what you really want in a Marvel film nowadays unless you just want a word for word adaptation of the comics to film?
I want better movies
On a slightly off-topic note, some folks wondered if corporations have learned anything from the Disney fiasco?
Not only have they not, but Disney itself will double down on stupid. The globohomo ESG bullshit plus general "twitter is real life" trends are not going to reverse themselves. They have every incentive, as far as they can see, to keep pushing forward. "DeSantis is only one governor!" they'll say to themselves, not knowing they're hardening the lines of defense across dozens of states.
 
At least Doctor Strange 1 had world-building and a better cast. Tilda Swinton was a gem in that film and really acts as a guide. I don't feel Benedict Cumberbatch really fits in this company either because they are his worse roles. He has been in some great films. Olsen as stated is criminally underused. Sam Raini is not a good director, his films age bad and some of his decisions wreck films, Danny Elfman in the spider-man scores is one of them.
 
They have every incentive, as far as they can see, to keep pushing forward. "DeSantis is only one governor!" they'll say to themselves, not knowing they're hardening the lines of defense across dozens of states.

You kinda defeated your blackpilled rant when you said they are hardening defence against this woke ESG crap.

Also most companies are refraining from commenting on Roe V Wade.
 
I've said it before, but what makes it even more obvious is that you NEVER see the reverse happen. You'd never get, say, a Princess and the Frog remake where Tiana and Naveen are turned white. The college educated/ghetto niggers' rage would be astronomical. Why don't white people have the same respect for their race/culture? They seriously can't be that reluctant to show even a little bit of unbowlderized respect for their culture, for fear of.....getting called mean words on social media. I can't even imagine being a white kid in today's media landscape. Whatever heroes you looked up to WILL get the melanin injection, and you WILL like it bigot!

Because it is is not about representation, it is about weaponizing white guilt so as to not find any objection and resistance as these woke bastards subvert and disfigure the culture and historical heritage of those they deem as oppressors. It has gotten so blatant and bold face that this absurdity is happening:

Netflix turned Jarl Haakon, the last pagan ruler of Norway, into a black woman in its new Vikings show
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It is precisely a "dare" on their behalf, as in "if you dare criticize this, clearly it is because you are racist".

If they really wanted to create histories with an entirely black cast, they could make shows based on the history of the Kingdoms or the myriad folk fables from the African continent, but they are not going to do that because that would require talent and effort, it would require of them to be creative and craft a solid story with good character. They are not going to do it because the motivation that drives their actions is vindictiveness, collectivism and hatred, not earnestness nor creative passion.

This is why the woke crowd are so pissed at movies like "The Northman", a solid movie that tells a good story with believable characters that portray Vikings as an entirely ethnically consistent people were men and women follow traditional gender roles.
 
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I think we can all agree that sometimes, some films should go slipping through the cracks.

On the other hand I love it since it confirms that we will eventually see the shit spectacle that is a MCU/Star Wars crossover. If they put Marvel references in Chip 'n Dale of all things they won't be able to resist going full retard.
 
The upcoming Percy Jackson series on Disney+ has cast their Annabeth and Grover and sure enough, Annabeth has been race swapped.

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I've never read Percy Jackson so I don't really care, but I find it funny the author complained for so long about the movie adaptation not matching his book. There were even people upset when the movie came out that Annabeth wasn't a blonde like the book. But, since diversity and race-swapping are all the rage in Hollywood, I imagine the author and all those who complained will go through the same cycle of dealing with the "toxic" fans eventually saying "Annabeth wasn't supposed to be white". Hilarious!

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Right on cue. Rick Riordan is calling out the toxic fans criticizing the casting of Annabeth on his website.

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Leah Jeffries is Annabeth Chase​


This post is specifically for those who have a problem with the casting of Leah Jeffries as Annabeth Chase. It’s a shame such posts need to be written, but they do. First, let me be clear I am speaking here only for myself. These thoughts are mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect or represent the opinions of any part of Disney, the TV show, the production team, or the Jeffries family.

The response to the casting of Leah has been overwhelmingly positive and joyous, as it should be. Leah brings so much energy and enthusiasm to this role, so much of Annabeth’s strength. She will be a role model for new generations of girls who will see in her the kind of hero they want to be.

If you have a problem with this casting, however, take it up with me. You have no one else to blame. Whatever else you take from this post, we should be able to agree that bullying and harassing a child online is inexcusably wrong. As strong as Leah is, as much as we have discussed the potential for this kind of reaction and the intense pressure this role will bring, the negative comments she has received online are out of line. They need to stop. Now.

I was quite clear a year ago, when we announced our first open casting, that we would be following Disney’s company policy on nondiscrimination: We are committed to diverse, inclusive casting. For every role, please submit qualified performers, without regard to disability, gender, race and ethnicity, age, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity or any other basis prohibited by law. We did that. The casting process was long, intense, massive and exhaustive.

I have been clear, as the author, that I was looking for the best actors to inhabit and bring to life the personalities of these characters, and that physical appearance was secondary for me. We did that. We took a year to do this process thoroughly and find the best of the best. This trio is the best. Leah Jeffries is Annabeth Chase.

Some of you have apparently felt offended or exasperated when your objections are called out online as racist. “But I am not racist,” you say. “It is not racist to want an actor who is accurate to the book’s description of the character!”

Let’s examine that statement.

You are upset/disappointed/frustrated/angry because a Black actor has been cast to play a character who was described as white in the books. “She doesn’t look the way I always imagined.”

You either are not aware, or have dismissed, Leah’s years of hard work honing her craft, her talent, her tenacity, her focus, her screen presence. You refuse to believe her selection could have been based on merit. Without having seen her play the part, you have pre-judged her (pre + judge = prejudice) and decided she must have been hired simply to fill a quota or tick a diversity box. And by the way, these criticisms have come from across the political spectrum, right and left.

You have decided that I couldn’t possibly mean what I have always said: That the true nature of the character lies in their personality. You feel I must have been coerced, brainwashed, bribed, threatened, whatever, or I as a white male author never would have chosen a Black actor for the part of this canonically white girl.

You refuse to believe me, the guy who wrote the books and created these characters, when I say that these actors are perfect for the roles because of the talent they bring and the way they used their auditions to expand, improve and electrify the lines they were given. Once you see Leah as Annabeth, she will become exactly the way you imagine Annabeth, assuming you give her that chance, but you refuse to credit that this may be true.

You are judging her appropriateness for this role solely and exclusively on how she looks. She is a Black girl playing someone who was described in the books as white.

Friends, that is racism.

And before you resort to the old kneejerk reaction — “I am not racist!” — let’s examine that statement too.

If I may quote from an excellent recent article in the Boston Globe about Dr. Khama Ennis, who created a program on implicit bias for the Massachusetts Board of Registration for Medicine in Boston: “To say a person doesn’t have bias is to say that person isn’t human. It’s how we navigate the world … based on what we’re taught and our own personal histories.”

Racism/colorism isn’t something we have or don’t have. I have it. You have it. We all do. And not just white people like me. All people. It’s either something we recognize and try to work on, or it’s something we deny. Saying “I am not racist!” is simply declaring that you deny your own biases and refuse to work on them.

The core message of Percy Jackson has always been that difference is strength. There is power in plurality. The things that distinguish us from one another are often our marks of individual greatness. You should never judge someone by how well they fit your preconceived notions. That neurodivergent kid who has failed out of six schools, for instance, may well be the son of Poseidon. Anyone can be a hero.

If you don’t get that, if you’re still upset about the casting of this marvelous trio, then it doesn’t matter how many times you have read the books. You didn’t learn anything from them.

Watch the show or don’t. That’s your call. But this will be an adaptation that I am proud of, and which fully honors the spirit of Percy Jackson and the Olympians, taking the bedtime story I told my son twenty years ago to make him feel better about being neurodivergent, and improving on it so that kids all over the world can continue to see themselves as heroes at Camp Half-Blood.

Rick Riordan
 
At least JK Rowling stuck to "well Hermione could be black" and didn't lecture her fans about it.

The thing is, everyone including him knows why this was done. His words come across as a desperate attempt to paper over that fact. But being lectured over and over again about how you're racist if you don't suck the teat of Diversity is only going to create more racists. They're the ones dividing the country with their rhetoric.
 
>in most of her scenes gadget is wearing a tiny "black widow" bodysuit
the duality of disney

On a slightly off-topic note, some folks wondered if corporations have learned anything from the Disney fiasco?
reminds me how after the whole #metoo shitshow feminists were flabbergasted to hear that lot of professional men/women relationships have gone to the shitter. how could anyone be surprised that men in higher positions like university or wall street stop mentoring and hiring women out of fear getting publicly crucified?
 
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i Know it's poor f
SU..PER.MAN...
i know it's bad form to agree/quote a lolcow but...Mr enter was right. There's a reason the 90's is so beloved a decade in terms of animation. It wasn't perfect but there was a TON of animation that hit every emotion. It made us laugh, it made us cry, it took leaps and bounds that changed everything for all time, and most of all it made us feel.

Note, i wanted to use "when she loved me" from toy story 2 but apparently every version of that is "made for kids," so I think it'd have been blocked from showing up on the farms.
 
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