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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Battlefield2142EU said:
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Should Sony spider-man movies be counted as Disney news?
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BITCH, NOT EVEN WOMEN WANTED TO SEE THAT SHIT, SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.
 
Mac Monster said:
Hollywood hacks can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that women just don't give a shit about superhero movies, no matter how many obnoxious girl-bosses they shove into them.
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Girls do care about them if the superhero movies are either popular (because girls like popular things) or it's a superhero story strongly mixed with feminine genres like romantic drama or murder mystery.

Still yeah, girls are a worse target to superhero stories than boys. It's much better do a dick flick with some lady pleaser elements so date nights are less awkward.
 
Mac Monster said:
Hollywood hacks can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that women just don't give a shit about superhero movies, no matter how many obnoxious girl-bosses they shove into them.
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This can be traced back to a Facebook poll that one of the comic companies did that told them that ~50% of comic book readers were women. Since then the comic industry and Marvel have been obsessed with getting that female audience.
 
The Nothingness said:
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
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I'd take the worst 20th Century Fox X-Men movies over like 75% of the MCU. I understand people don't like a lot of these movies lack of respect for the source material, but at least they are actual movies with stakes and not a string of girl boss action scenes interspersed with snarky comments that undermine what little gravity the plot has.
 
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Molly White's Breast Milk said:
This can be traced back to a Facebook poll that one of the comic companies did that told them that ~50% of comic book readers were women. Since then the comic industry and Marvel have been obsessed with getting that female audience.
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But people who enjoy reading comics don't necessarily enjoy watching movies about comics. And as a general rule, most female superhero fans enjoy the fact that superhero comics are mostly dudes in tight clothing.
 
Mac Monster said:
Hollywood hacks can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that women just don't give a shit about superhero movies, no matter how many obnoxious girl-bosses they shove into them.
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The "shippers" largely congregated onto CW shit, because once Flash and Arrow started their bullshit relationship drama arc, women seemed to flock almost instinctually to it.
 
Mac Monster said:
Hollywood hacks can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that women just don't give a shit about superhero movies, no matter how many obnoxious girl-bosses they shove into them.
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DC Comics has weirdly garnered success with a female audience. I remember one of these threads had someone claim that both Wonder Woman and Aquaman were leaning more on a female audience. Teen Titans/Young Justice have also done very well. Then there is Batman, who has always been fairly good at getting a skewed audience.

This is all to say nothing of the CW shows and how they turned Flash and Green Arrow into big icons.

Amber the Hedgehog said:
Girls do care about them if the superhero movies are either popular (because girls like popular things) or it's a superhero story strongly mixed with feminine genres like romantic drama or murder mystery.

Still yeah, girls are a worse target to superhero stories than boys. It's much better do a dick flick with some lady pleaser elements so date nights are less awkward.
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Spider-Man, Batman and the Teen Titans are essentially this. Spider-Man and TT are both teen dramas at their core and thus have managed to gain success with women. Batman has always had a noir, crime drama angle that has made it very popular, along with a family dynamic, a Tim Burton goth aesthetic and many horror elements.

These franchises also get by on having very strong (in terms of writing) female characters.
  • Batman has three of the best villainesses you can find, all with unique looks and personalities. Making the main love interest a villain (Catwoman) was genius on their part as it creates a very interesting romance dynamic. Harley and Joker make for a great couples cosplay set. Even outside the villains, Batgirl is pretty loved, even if it is probably for self-inserting to get with Dick or Jason.
  • Spider-Man's love interests were also pretty active between Mary Jane and Gwen being way more defined than other heroes GFs, to Black Cat essentially stealing the Catwoman dynamic. The movies just made these elements shine more, especially in regards to Gwen who has been great in both Amazing and Spider-verse.
  • Teen Titans has Raven and Starfire, and YJ had Artemis, Zatanna and others. Every Tumblr nerd girl has decided that she is Raven for nearly a decade now due to Raven's unique antisocial personality. Most of these girls are loved for their designs, personalities and how the shows have strung together power couples like Dick and Kory.
 
Coo Coo Bird said:
But people who enjoy reading comics don't necessarily enjoy watching movies about comics. And as a general rule, most female superhero fans enjoy the fact that superhero comics are mostly dudes in tight clothing.
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What happened was that comic book companies saw that poll and decided to court women with stories that they thought would appeal to them written by DEI hacks so they could get some of those sweet BlackRock bucks. After a couple of years all the original writers were forced out for being White men leaving behind only women, trannies, and soyboys. This is how we almost got Snowflake and Safe Space by Daniel Kibblesmith. Disney, wanting more BlackRock bucks, begins to adapt those shitty Marvel comics like Ms. Marvel and Ironheart even though no one is actually buying those comics except for woke women who don't go to comic shops or buy any other merchandise. This is why comic shops that aren't selling manga and other weeb shit are going out of business.

This is how Marvel got to this point: a fucking Facebook poll.
 
relationship drama + guys in tights beating the shit out of each other
it's not fucking rocket science
wrasslin crowds have women in them for a reason
it's not _all_ gals but the ones who like this like THIS and not The Unsassable Girlboss
 
The Amazing Spider-Man films managed to gather a considerable female fanbase sorely due to the well-done young romance elements between Spider-Man and Gwen Stacy. Shit even the Spectacular Spider-Man animated series had a pretty sizable shipping fandom (primarily female) with Peter, Liz, Gwen, Mary Jane, Felicia Hardy, etc. Also a lot of girls like the Mr. Fanservice aspect of it (see the popularity of Jason Momoa's Aquaman for example). Girls also like drama and mystery genres.

At some point these basic Marketing To Women 101 bullet points became taboo and so here we are. Hence Madame Web bombs while that weird romantic comedy that I only remember for the interviews where Sydney Sweeney obviously wants to ride her older co-star's dick went on to gross millions.

Yes, exceptions exist but you won't make the big bucks by banking on the exceptions.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
More like "Tron: Ass Arse"

Did the last one even do that well in theaters? I didn't even know Tron got a sequel until i played KH: Dream Drop Distance
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No and it was ass. I don't know where the hell all these people saying that it was actually good in the last few years came from, Tron: Legacy was the definition of style over substance with a really hamfisted Holocaust allegory to boot. People just got mindfucked by the visuals and Daft Punk's music.

Not that the original Tron was amazing or anything.
 
yeah OG Tron was strictly liked for its aesthetics and sound as well
you could probably argue about it being sorta holocausty too
 
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