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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Cnut said:
People say a lot about the remakes, but in the parks it's still the animated characters. Even when promoting the new ones like Little Mermaid.

What does this tell us? That Disney knows the classics can't be undermined? Or, that they have no faith in the live actions on some pseudo-permanent cultural level? Perhaps that they don't want to be in $gratitude to actor's likenesses?

As a special case: Pirates of the Caribbean, a 'new' movie franchise based on the classic Disneyland ride, ended up putting robots of Johnny Depp into the classic ride. There is no Aladdin ride, but if there were-- would we see Robin Williams replaced with Will Smith? I don't think so.

These remakes while maybe hyped and taking resources away from a potential good movie, are completely ephemeral and no one will remember them in five let alone fifty years. (Except maybe as a lesson in folly.)
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I think a good example that they only did this because of popularity is the fact the other times they've tried using rides as an IP basis have fallen flat.

Haunted Mansion? They've tried that shit twice, once with Eddie Murphy and the other I think was a D+ series that I never heard of again after its launch marketing finished on youtube (I just remember Danny DiVito was in it). The only things that have changed with the Mansion in all of that time was they keep messing around with the Bride for some reason, along with sticking Hatbox Ghost back in. The fact the media series never gets mentioned likely speaks to their lukewarm at best reception and why the rides were spared.

jungle Cruise? Something something Dwayne Johnson is now some kind of immortal pirate or some shit? Never saw the movie and it didn't sound like anything different than the usual slop. I bet Disney was hoping that the movie would take off if just to have an excuse to change out one of the most iconic rides into more IP dump bullshit. Completely missing the point that people kind of ride it because it's so dated and intentionally terrible with the jokes than the idea it's a serious attraction.

cactus said:
I love the POTC movies, but fuck do I want them to take any and all references to the movies out of them, the rides were fine as is (also the old auction scene needs to come back, I don't know anyone who was offended by it).
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I agree, the idea of the original ride was that you see something fairly close to authentic pirates who are just firebombing some fort town and getting drunk off their asses.

Now the back half of the ride is just everybody shouting about 'GET JACK SPARROW' while he does comical things like hide in a barrel and it's embarrassing how poorly the movie integration just doesn't work. At least the first half through the cave is still untouched (and the mirror trick with the pirate skeleton becoming flesh and alive again was a nice touch to help establish what's going on).
 
Watched some documentary on A Goofy Movie. Almost reminded me of a time when Disney meant wholesome and not mass-appeal slop. Thankfully, the inclusion of disney adult youtubers reminded me of as much.
 
The Mighty Banth said:
I'll defend Coco because the disfunction came from the guy being murdered and once that was explained, the family was restored.
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The scene at the end with the grandma....I've legit seen grown ass men weep at that scene.

That being said I wish it had been done in traditional animation but fucking Disney closed the department. It sucks. Especially stuff like Frozen and Tangled that would have been great in traditional or hand drawn judging by the sketches.
 
The Decimator said:
the only thing that would make this live-action Stitch remake worth it would be if they brought back reruns of the animated series to promote it
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Disney seems to either selectively dismiss or quietly forget certain spinoff media. For example, they really want you to forget Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was a thing and Pixar hated it too. After the Marvel buyout they made their own Avengers show for that cheap, MCU synergy and basically hoped you forget Avengers: EMH came out before. They probably have a very low opinion of the Stitch series or other 90's shows like Bonkers, Goof Troop, Rescue Rangers.
 
BigBadBastich said:
They probably have a very low opinion of the Stitch series or other 90's shows like...Rescue Rangers.
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Good fucking LORD I hate to be the one who has to ruin your blissful ignorance but they made that hideous 'Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers' movie that was some kind of freakish lovechild between modern deconstruction trends and the angle of WFRR with cartoons in the real world.

TL DR: Disney managed to shit on the grave of a dead man whose life they ruined decades ago (Peter Pan is the villain because he was growing older and couldn't be typecast or something...which is why the OG Peter Pan VA ended up dying a vagrant in NYC after he never was able to get work as an adult because everybody remembered he was the VA for Peter Pan, his final resting place being a mass grave in an island near NYC proper), Gadget and the Fly not only got married but had horrifying mutant children you even get to see, and fucking Live Action Sonic 1.0 - not even a Disney character proper - is something of a semi-major supporting character.

Disney didn't just have a low opinion of Rescue Rangers, they fucking torched the shit out of anything good anybody remembered of it.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
The scene at the end with the grandma....I've legit seen grown ass men weep at that scene.

That being said I wish it had been done in traditional animation but fucking Disney closed the department. It sucks. Especially stuff like Frozen and Tangled that would have been great in traditional or hand drawn judging by the sketches.
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It was never going to be in 2D, Coco was made by Pixar.
 
Candlelight Desolation said:
I actually thought Frollo was supposed to be a priest when I watched it (if you watch the movie, he's clearly supposed to be a priest to me)
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That's because in the book he's a priest and actually the archdeacon of Notre Dame. Book Frollo's main motivation is that he's disappointed by his brother, Jehan, who spends his time drinking and chasing girls, so he adopts Quasimodo as a way of being better than Jehan. His inner conflict comes from the fact he's beginning to lust after Esmerelda, but Disney made him minister of justice to make him an easier villain to put on screen. It's honestly amazing they kept as much of the original as they did.
 
Privilege Power Hour said:
That's because in the book he's a priest and actually the archdeacon of Notre Dame. Book Frollo's main motivation is that he's disappointed by his brother, Jehan, who spends his time drinking and chasing girls, so he adopts Quasimodo as a way of being better than Jehan. His inner conflict comes from the fact he's beginning to lust after Esmerelda, but Disney made him minister of justice to make him an easier villain to put on screen. It's honestly amazing they kept as much of the original as they did.
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It is amazing it retained so much darkness, and to their credit, the stage musical even re-incorporates all of that stuff. It's really accurate to the original novel.

Mac Monster said:
I wonder if Disney will make Pleakley a troon because he likes to crossdress.
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The answer appears to be no.

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Optimus Prime said:
Gadget and the Fly not only got married but had horrifying mutant children you even get to see, and fucking Live Action Sonic 1.0 - not even a Disney character proper - is something of a semi-major supporting character.

Disney didn't just have a low opinion of Rescue Rangers, they fucking torched the shit out of anything good anybody remembered of it.
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I remember the fly fiasco and people's reactions to it. It made me think when they showed the babies, Gadget likely gave birth to a bunch of maggots.
 
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