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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,086 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,576
In other news, Bob Iger has finally bit the bullet and been replaced with a different guy, Josh D'Amaro...just yesterday.
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Will we see the same stock standard "woke first" practice they've been employing for years, or will there be an actual attempt to clean up reputation? Eh, mainly the former I imagine. The company is better off chopped up.
 
No one asked for sequels to these movies, the endings were fine on their own. Incredibles 2 was something that should have done at the peak of the 1st movie's success, and now we have a bandwagon of a VERY late bandwagon. I don't recall many people even talking about the 2nd movie aside from how much it sucked and/or paled in comparison to the first one.
An incredibles sequel released 20 years later taking place 20 years later with the kids all grown up doing their own thing and the parents retired would have actually worked on both a literal and a meta level better than any direct sequel would.
 
I'm glad I'm not gen Alpha and don't have to deal with soy millennial parents forcing me to watch live action Disney slop remakes and sequels. So happy I grew up with the original.
How I feel sometimes, being almost in my 50's. My parents are gone and I'm left with my thoughts of a past I believed in.

I see they're remaking Wind in the Willows. I wonder if this will stay close to the book or be dumb down and updated for a modern audience? I can't see Piper at the Gates of Dawn be respectfully depicted, let alone re-gendering the characters to throw more girls in besides the "washer woman".
 
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Hoppers was great, easily lives up to the hype. Most I've enjoyed a Pixar film since Coco back in 2017.
I've been thinking about seeing Hoppers but Chong being the film's director makes me a bit cautious since I'm not a fan of We Bare Bears.
In other news, Bob Iger has finally bit the bullet and been replaced with a different guy, Josh D'Amaro...just yesterday.
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Will we see the same stock standard "woke first" practice they've been employing for years, or will there be an actual attempt to clean up reputation? Eh, mainly the former I imagine. The company is better off chopped up.
D'Amaro worked in Disney Experiences (the section of The Walt Disney Company that focuses on the parks and similar areas) before becoming CEO so expect similar issues to the ones that the parks experienced between 2020 and 2025.
 
I will start off by destroying @Vyse Inglebard hopes and dreams. Sorry man, have to do it to you to announce this...
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this would be soul-destroying news yes....if it wasn't already confirmed a year ago:
The Lilo and Stitch remake has grossed $910 million. Guess what that means?
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If you said "sequel", you'd be sadly correct.
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Something that WASN'T mentioned already.....I'm about as shocked as you probably will be upon hearing this.....Chris Sanders himself is apparently writing the script for it. That....honestly makes it so much worse. The ONLY thing that this fucking company allows this man to work on for his own creation - is a sequel to such a thorough bastardization of it that the only way it'd be more disrespectful is if they'd raped his wife in front of him while they did it. If I had made something and the company that owns it made a shitty ass "remake" of it - and then had the AUDACITY to ask me to come back to write the SEQUEL - not only would I refuse, I would do things that would radicalize them on the nigger question forever.
 
I've been thinking about seeing Hoppers but Chong being the film's director makes me a bit cautious since I'm not a fan of We Bare Bears.
From what little I've seen of WBB I don't think they're all that similar. Nothing wrong with waiting for it to be available digitally, though.
 
This is so pathetic. The company as a whole has been fucked for quite some time and this is just a sad attempt at trying to keep whatever "fans" they have left. It's a VERY desperate move from them that essentially says this:
Allegedly, the first Lilo and Stitch demake was a hitbox success, and at this point, disney has mastered the art of ignoring the complain and frame it as toxic fans.
What people don't understand is that disney is a company held up by souless corporates that ignores drama and focus on profit.
They see brownshit and the 7 cgi abomination lose money and think "Its unprofitable to even mention this movie, let alone make a sequel".
They see the first movie was a success and think "We have the cgi modles and renowing contracts is cheap, making a sequel is gonna be cheaper than brand new movie".
No aftertought because the company is full of yesmen and lackeys, 0 moments trying to double check what's people opinion on the first movie to ever begin with, all that matters is just ride on that hype wave, it worked with the force awakens, it worked with the lion king, it worked with infinity war, it surely will work with this.
 
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I'm glad I'm not gen Alpha and don't have to deal with soy millennial parents forcing me to watch live action Disney slop remakes and sequels. So happy I grew up with the original.
My parents are boomers and they (at least my mom) think the remakes are good.. somehow.
 
I wish Disney would quit it with the sequels, reboots, and remakes. I understand it’s heavily :optimistic: because it’s easier to cash in on an already established IP rather than take risks making something new, but man am I tired of seeing characters I like being flanderized. Toy Story should have ended at the third one, as it was a natural ending to it, and keeping it alive is just boring at this point. I also already have Moana fatigue, and that’s been around for less time.

I guess if they insist on sequels, it should just stick to a trilogy format, but Disney has to please their shareholders by going the “safe” route by cashing in on IPs with an already built-in fanbase. Overall, I hate it, and it’s why you shouldn’t let finance bros have too much creative control, as they kill creativity by insisting on profit above anything else. Even the flops Disney had from the early 2000s are overall better quality than the tripe put out now.
 
I really have tried to understand why people either don't seem to mind the live-action remakes or, worse, actually like them. Obviously they still make money for the most part so there must be an audience, and aside from those that failed due to circumstances outside their control (like Mulan moving from theatrical to D+ due to the coof), the only out and out flop I can think of is Snow White. And that one was a perfect storm of a failure: the original being particularly old and not overly popular, an obnoxious lead actress that couldn't keep her mouth shut, a rewritten script for modern girlboss audiences, the diverse multicultural dwarf replacements, the replacement of the replacements with nightmare CGI abomination dwarves, hundreds of millions of dollars blown on reshoots and VFX...yeah, there was no way that was getting into the black. (Numbers two and three would be Dumbo and The Little Mermaid, and I'd attribute the former to modern Tim Burton and the latter to the gingercide.)

But then you look at basically every other one, and they not only make their money back, they turn a substantial profit even with the ridiculous budgets. Any moment of self-reflection Disney might have had after Snow White's failure was quickly discarded when Lilo & Stitch made a billion fucking dollars, proving that audiences would still keep showing up no matter what. Why change course when the current direction is obviously not causing them any problems? People will keep paying to watch utter slop, so forget about artistry and craft and storytelling and just churn out another low-effort remake.

If I had to guess, I think it's a couple of factors. For one, a general dearth of kid-oriented entertainment means that families usually don't have many options as to what to go see in theaters, and usually whatever's there is going to be from Disney. So they don't really think about what they're taking their kids to see, they just pick the singular option and roll with it. For another, nostalgia is still a hell of a drug, and parents that grew up with the classic Disney animated movies still have that twinge in their heart when they see the title and want to share that experience with their kids. They probably get swept up in that nostalgic feeling and don't even consider how it's objectively inferior to the original they remember. And there could also be a general disdain for animation that persists in adults, where they feel less embarrassed about going to see a movie if it's in live-action and not that kiddy animated stuff (even if they're supposed to be going for their kids).

But more than that, I think it's also the fuzziness of memory that contributes to the continued success of these pointless remakes. Most adults probably haven't seen any of the Disney classics in years, if not decades, so their memory of what made them special is somewhat faded. All they really remember is that good feeling they got when they watched them all those years ago. So they go to a live-action remake, they settle in to watch, and it's just close enough that it more or less hijacks that good association and makes them think that the remake is just as good. Their kids don't know any better because they've never seen the original, so nobody in the family complains, and everyone goes to watch the next one when it comes out. Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product.

Honestly, though, how many more movies in the Disney canon do they have left? They've already hit pretty much all of the major names in the classics and most of the Renaissance, and what's left is not really likely. I mean, seriously, could you ever see them doing a live-action Hunchback or Pocahontas, to say nothing of the outright flops like Atlantis or Treasure Planet? They're already resorting to plundering the 2000s and 2010s for movies to remake, so they must know they're running out of source material to plunder. I guess there's always churning out unnecessary sequels like in the direct-to-video days (hello, Lilo & Stitch 2, go fuck yourself), but they're already doing that in the animation department. I'd say diminishing returns has to set in at some point, but it hasn't yet, unfortunately.

All you can do as a parent is make the conscious decision not to see these movies and encourage others to do likewise. It probably won't amount to much, but it can't hurt to champion classic animation.
 
But more than that, I think it's also the fuzziness of memory that contributes to the continued success of these pointless remakes. Most adults probably haven't seen any of the Disney classics in years, if not decades, so their memory of what made them special is somewhat faded. All they really remember is that good feeling they got when they watched them all those years ago. So they go to a live-action remake, they settle in to watch, and it's just close enough that it more or less hijacks that good association and makes them think that the remake is just as good. Their kids don't know any better because they've never seen the original, so nobody in the family complains, and everyone goes to watch the next one when it comes out. Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product.
correct.
They played the music you heard as a little kid. They combined a cute little child actress with all the features of animals your brain is programmed to love—bunny, cat, puppy, dye it blue—and they got the guy who originally voiced Stitch under contract to come back. “Yeah, well, who wouldn’t think that’s cute?” It’s a little girl and an amalgamation of your favorite animals set to your childhood. Of course it rings the “cute” bell. That doesn’t mean it’s good. It means you’re Pavlov’s dog. They rang a bell, you started drooling for your mint.
 
Obviously they still make money for the most part so there must be an audience, and aside from those that failed due to circumstances outside their control (like Mulan moving from theatrical to D+ due to the coof), the only out and out flop I can think of is Snow White.
You also had the live action Lady and the Tramp and Pinocchio go straight to D+ before and after the coof for unknown reasons. Maybe the company didn't have confidence in them.
 
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