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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,086 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,576
King Dead said:
nostalgia is still a hell of a drug, and parents that grew up with the classic Disney animated movies still have that twinge in their heart when they see the title and want to share that experience with their kids.
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I actually believe this to be the strongest factor. People adopt a positive view of a franchise, and that positive view can last as long as the IP isn't over-milked. (Think Star Wars.) Scarcity is a powerful thing, and moviegoers may have been excited to see another Lilo & Stitch movie in theaters after two decades. Consumers of these films don't think so much about the quality. It's more about the novelty of something receiving a theatrical installment after spending decades untouched.

Nostalgic parents look to pass their love of a story to their children or relive the experience vicariously through them. They will take their family to the cinema in search of that magic they once felt. Of course, any nostalgic high they achieve is only temporary, and they will either repeat the process for the next remake, like a drug, or recognize how hollow the experience is and stop.

The underperformance of Snow Brown and The Little Chocolate Milkmaid came from a strong political malaise surrounding those films. Few things disrupt Disney magic more than messy fights over politics. The nostalgia-drugged adult is looking for a facsimile of their childhood, and few children obsess over politics as adults do.

There is certainly a silver lining in Disney running out of Renaissance-era material to replicate. I believe they will pivot to sequels/prequels of their remakes to diminishing returns. Mufasa made bank, but that film did not resurrect a cultural footprint or make one of its own. The soundtrack certainly didn't air on every radio station in the way Elton John's work for The Lion King did.

Are audiences so invested in these iterations of the stories that they are willing to keep up with the lore for multiple installments? I doubt it, seeing as these remakes are cinematic comfort food. Viewers want to experience the same fairy tales from their childhood, not to watch pale imitations of childhood characters do something new.
 
So the live-action-remake for Moana trailer just dropped.


Dear god, that wig.

Also, can't wait for people see this in the theaters and see a trailer for the live-action-remake for the live-action-remake for Moana.

Soon Disney will be releasing a live action remake for Moana every fiscal quater.
 
The Nothingness said:
You also had the live action Lady and the Tramp ...
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No one ever mentions this one, but of the handful of live action remakes I have seen. It was by far the best of them. Mainly because it just did the film. How closely or not it is to the original, I don't know because I haven't seen that since I was young but it was just a decent film that didn't overstay its welcome. Unlike some of the others.
 
Thanks, I hate it!
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Couldn’t even get the fucking shark right.
 
King Dead said:
to say nothing of the outright flops like Atlantis or Treasure Planet?
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These would actually be Kino as Live action.
The Nothingness said:
You also had the live action Lady and the Tramp and Pinocchio go straight to D+ before and after the coof for unknown reasons. Maybe the company didn't have confidence in them.
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Live action Pinocchio is just Epstein's Island the Film.
 
Rusty Hinges said:
I actually believe this to be the strongest factor. People adopt a positive view of a franchise, and that positive view can last as long as the IP isn't over-milked. (Think Star Wars.) Scarcity is a powerful thing, and moviegoers may have been excited to see another Lilo & Stitch movie in theaters after two decades. Consumers of these films don't think so much about the quality. It's more about the novelty of something receiving a theatrical installment after spending decades untouched.
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Plus going to a movie once isn't a great commitment. It takes two hours or so and while tickets aren't cheap, they aren't expensive either. If it's meh expensive you won't that disappointed because the investment was low to begin with. So you might as well go and do something different than you usually do.
 
Premium Gonzo said:
You wash your mouth out, both of those were incredible films (i know they were considered flops) but i absolutely adored both films. But i am a sucker for Treasure Island in any form really.
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I think he means at the box office, not quality-wise (Atlantis moves a bit too fast, but is otherwise decent. Treasure Planet is great)
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
I think he means at the box office, not quality-wise (Atlantis moves a bit too fast, but is otherwise decent. Treasure Planet is great)
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I know but i hate seeing Treasure Planet getting shat on. It had that incredible mix of original hand drawn art and CGI and it was blended so seamlessly.
 
Premium Gonzo said:
You wash your mouth out, both of those were incredible films (i know they were considered flops) but i absolutely adored both films. But i am a sucker for Treasure Island in any form really.
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Like @Vyse Inglebard said, I was only talking about box office. I love both of those movies too, but audiences simply did not show up for them at the time. And honestly, that's a blessing in disguise, because there's less of a chance that modern Disney will taint their legacies with a shitty live-action remake ("if nobody watched these the first time, why would they watch them again?"). It's still a non-zero chance, unfortunately, but they'd probably churn out a bunch of unnecessary sequels before they go that deep in the well for material.
 
I don't get why so many people go "wow this remake looks like shit! why won't they remake these other movies I like?". I enjoy knowing a bunch of Disney movies I like aren't worth getting squeezed for every cent with a shitty remake.

Atlantis, Brother Bear, Treasure Planet, Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons, all safe.
 
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Scientifically Inaccurate said:
I don't get why so many people go "wow this remake looks like shit! why won't they remake these other movies I like?". I enjoy knowing a bunch of Disney movies I like aren't worth getting squeezed for every cent with a shitty remake.

Atlantis, Brother Bear, Treasure Planet, Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons, all safe.
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Thank goodness there. Still I could see them shit on Brother Bear if they need to amp the indigenous quota.
 
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