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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Steamboat_Bill said:
I'm going to say this right now: anyone who wants Disney to stop making these remakes, do not go to see them. Tell other people to not see them. Do not go to see it even ironically, or to make fun of it. Paying for a ticket tells Disney that they should make more of these, no matter your intentions.

Stop giving them fuel and the whole thing will crash and burn.
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This is genuinely good advice that no one's going to take.

You need only glance at the Star Wars thread for this. Despite the fact there's a perfectly good camrip of or two of Episode IX available, there are a lot of people in that thread who say shit like, "broke down and saw the movie..." And a lot of these people went into it expecting to hate it.

The idea of just not going to something that you know you aren't gonna like doesn't really register with people anymore. That's how Lion King managed to gross a shit-ton of money despite people criticizing its lifeless CGI for months on end. No one I knew was excited for it and yet it was still one of the highest grossing movies last year. There is still a vast audience consisting of people who fall for this bullshit and people who claim they think it looks awful but still end up going anyway, and that's how this shit keeps making money.
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
This is genuinely good advice that no one's going to take.

You need only glance at the Star Wars thread for this. Despite the fact there's a perfectly good camrip of or two of Episode IX available, there are a lot of people in that thread who say shit like, "broke down and saw the movie..." And a lot of these people went into it expecting to hate it.

The idea of just not going to something that you know you aren't gonna like doesn't really register with people anymore. That's how Lion King managed to gross a shit-ton of money despite people criticizing its lifeless CGI for months on end. No one I knew was excited for it and yet it was still one of the highest grossing movies last year. There is still a vast audience consisting of people who fall for this bullshit and people who claim they think it looks awful but still end up going anyway, and that's how this shit keeps making money.
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Honestly, there are days I feel like this is a sign we've given up as a culture. "So movies suck, what are you gonna do about it? I'm gonna give Disney my money and show them I want more shitty remakes of beloved movies even though nobody I know actually likes them."

Maybe things would improve if we realized we can control what we see - that we have the power to tell Disney to stop remaking their old classics by not going to see them?
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Honestly, there are days I feel like this is a sign we've given up as a culture. "So movies suck, what are you gonna do about it? I'm gonna give Disney my money and show them I want more shitty remakes of beloved movies even though nobody I know actually likes them."

Maybe things would improve if we realized we can control what we see - that we have the power to tell Disney to stop remaking their old classics by not going to see them?
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We need some sort of modern equivalent of this scene from The Critic.


It's funny that the kind of shit he complains about here got worse over the past 15-odd years.
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
This is genuinely good advice that no one's going to take.

You need only glance at the Star Wars thread for this. Despite the fact there's a perfectly good camrip of or two of Episode IX available, there are a lot of people in that thread who say shit like, "broke down and saw the movie..." And a lot of these people went into it expecting to hate it.

The idea of just not going to something that you know you aren't gonna like doesn't really register with people anymore. That's how Lion King managed to gross a shit-ton of money despite people criticizing its lifeless CGI for months on end. No one I knew was excited for it and yet it was still one of the highest grossing movies last year. There is still a vast audience consisting of people who fall for this bullshit and people who claim they think it looks awful but still end up going anyway, and that's how this shit keeps making money.
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Yeah I can't understand it. I didn't go see RoS because TLJ pissed me off, nor did I see Solo. It's not hard to NOT do something.

I haven't watched any of the live action remakes completely . I tried the JungleBook on Netflix, but was just as bored by it as I was with the animated version, and tried the Beauty and the Beast again on Netflix and couldn't get through the horrible autotune in the first song. Those experiences made me certain I didn't want to go to a theater to see any of the others, or waste my time with them when they were on TV or streaming services.
 
Bob Iger and the Disney empire is one of the biggest cancers upon pop culture and the entertainment industry.

I'm with @Steamboat_Bill on not buying any of their movies and if you can, don't subscribe to Disney+ either. If you have to see their older movies and shows for whatever, buy older DVD's from Amazon and eBay instead since a lot of those are out of print and the money from secondhand copy sales doesn't directly go to Disney like subscription fees and movie tickets do.
 
Syaoran Li said:
Bob Iger and the Disney empire is one of the biggest cancers upon pop culture and the entertainment industry.

I'm with @Steamboat_Bill on not buying any of their movies and if you can, don't subscribe to Disney+ either. If you have to see their older movies and shows for whatever, buy older DVD's from Amazon and eBay instead since a lot of those are out of print and the money from secondhand copy sales doesn't directly go to Disney like subscription fees and movie tickets do.
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That's pretty much what I do! Don't give your money directly to these people.
 
I'm sitting here and I'm thinking that I don't think there's a single film on God's green earth that I hate more than The Lion King (2019). Can you fucking BELIEVE that they submitted it in every "For Your Consideration" category for the Oscars? Can you fucking imagine the gall they had to submit Seth Rogen as Pumbaa, Eric Andre as rando hyena, and fucking JOHN OLIVER as Zazu for a goddamn Oscar? "Best Production Design". "Best Cinematography". "Best Director". Etc. The fucking nerve.

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I hate Iger. I never thought I would miss the days of direct to video sequels. At least it was new stories. It wasn't the same movie coated with an awful new layer of shit-paint.
 
It's not actually going to win anything, believe you me. Every movie's eligible, but not every movie actually makes it to the nominations. The dumbest things have had Oscar campaigns.
 
Alto said:
I'm sitting here and I'm thinking that I don't think there's a single film on God's green earth that I hate more than The Lion King (2019). Can you fucking BELIEVE that they submitted it in every "For Your Consideration" category for the Oscars? Can you fucking imagine the gall they had to submit Seth Rogen as Pumbaa, Eric Andre as rando hyena, and fucking JOHN OLIVER as Zazu for a goddamn Oscar? "Best Production Design". "Best Cinematography". "Best Director". Etc. The fucking nerve.

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I hate Iger. I never thought I would miss the days of direct to video sequels. At least it was new stories. It wasn't the same movie coated with an awful new layer of shit-paint.
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why can't we just oust Iger like we did Eisner? Hell, Eisner at least has the Disney Renascence to support him. Iger only has like what, Tangled, Wreck-it Ralph and the MCU? Like most of the films made under his rule are either cash-ins or range from just passable to downright garbage, and the Fox buyout is quite literally a man buying out franchises that frankly should just be taken behind the barn and executed Old Yeller style (Simpsons, Aliens)
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
I'm going to say this right now: anyone who wants Disney to stop making these remakes, do not go to see them. Tell other people to not see them. Do not go to see it even ironically, or to make fun of it. Paying for a ticket tells Disney that they should make more of these, no matter your intentions.

Stop giving them fuel and the whole thing will crash and burn.
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I have no idea why people still have to be told this. Or why even after being told this they go see a movie they don't expect to like, and, shockingly, don't like it.
 
What I recently realized: Because Disney is such a big and legendary animation studio, in the Internet everything they do is so overanalyzed it can kill any enjoyment of the movies. This scene is not feminist enough, this moment make send bad message for children... Like, if you watched this or that movie in the childhood, it will give you unrealistic body ideals and you would try to replicate everything you saw and we must protect kids etc...
But you know what? Generation that grew up during Disney Renessaince, born of Disney Afternoon and Disney Channel... They are the most vocal critics. They examine chidhood favourites for "problematic scenes". They critisize body stylization and all the other stuff.
People are really overestimating fictional medias influence.
 
IdaRita said:
What I recently realized: Because Disney is such a big and legendary animation studio, in the Internet everything they do is so overanalyzed it can kill any enjoyment of the movies. This scene is not feminist enough, this moment make send bad message for children... Like, if you watched this or that movie in the childhood, it will give you unrealistic body ideals and you would try to replicate everything you saw and we must protect kids etc...
But you know what? Generation that grew up during Disney Renessaince, born of Disney Afternoon and Disney Channel... They are the most vocal critics. They examine chidhood favourites for "problematic scenes". They critisize body stylization and all the other stuff.
People are really overestimating fictional medias influence.
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It's a shame they can't stop.
 
I know its a massive meme in the Disney weirdo community and beyond to rag on Eisner and his mishaps but the guy did legitimately try, even after Frank Wells’ passing. Yes he fucked up after the Paris and China expansions but chris, Iger has fucked up nearly every aspect in directing the company thinking he knows what the audience wants.
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I know its a massive meme in the Disney weirdo community and beyond to rag on Eisner and his mishaps but the guy did legitimately try, even after Frank Wells’ passing. Yes he fucked up after the Paris and China expansions but chris, Iger has fucked up nearly every aspect in directing the company thinking he knows what the audience wants.
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Given how huge the box office has been for them over the last several years, I can’t exactly blame him (or a board of directors) for thinking that. Yeah, there have been some high profile bombs (A Wrinkle in Time, The Nutcracker, The Good Dinosaur), but they have been surrounded by billion dollar hits. I’m not defending the content, mind you, but maybe the problem has less to do with Disney shoveling out lazy content and more to do with the audiences who eat it up and ask for more.
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I know its a massive meme in the Disney weirdo community and beyond to rag on Eisner and his mishaps but the guy did legitimately try, even after Frank Wells’ passing. Yes he fucked up after the Paris and China expansions but chris, Iger has fucked up nearly every aspect in directing the company thinking he knows what the audience wants.
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Eisner fucked up and lost the company money, and that's why he's remembered differently.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Eisner fucked up and lost the company money, and that's why he's remembered differently.
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Yeah, that’s what I meant by the expansions. I just get the feeling that Eisner the company moved forward even with the weird choices that weren’t always successful. Iger got Star Wars, a celebrated franchise, and ran it into the ground in the span of five years with the help of Kennedy. He opened an expansion to the original and Florida parks with the result of them being ghost towns months after. How even? All these remakes are thriving off pure nostalgia and nothing more.
 
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