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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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Lena Waithe is voicing a lesbian cyclops in Onward. Its obvious it can be easily edited out because we can't offend Wuhan and Ching Chang Chung Pooh Bear

Shit like this makes it so much easier to understand why so many creators left Disney projects over "creative differences" and just how many truly great films we could have if TPBT simply decided to pander to anyone outside the nuclear church-going family demographic. (Tangled..I mean Rapunzel being based off of The Swing painting, the original concept for the Snow Queen, the digital and hand drawn 2D animation, the way Brenda Chapman was mistreated by Disney, the abandoned Jack and the Beanstalk movie with Kirstin Chenoweth, etc)
 
Someone in a Tree said:
Given how huge the box office has been for them over the last several years, I can’t exactly blame him (or a board of directors) for thinking that. Yeah, there have been some high profile bombs (A Wrinkle in Time, The Nutcracker, The Good Dinosaur), but they have been surrounded by billion dollar hits. I’m not defending the content, mind you, but maybe the problem has less to do with Disney shoveling out lazy content and more to do with the audiences who eat it up and ask for more.
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Honestly, I'd say that a good chunk of Iger's ego comes from the massive success of the MCU. It's a high-risk yet high-reward franchise that is keeping the rest of Disney afloat more than anything else.

Even with the success of Frozen and some of the live-action remakes, Marvel's success is why Iger can get away with things like A Wrinkle In Time or the crashing and burning of Star Wars.

However, since the MCU is a high-risk/high-reward endeavor, all it takes is one or two MCU films to flop (or even just under-perform badly enough) and Iger will go down in history with a worse reputation than Eisner.

I think even Iger himself is beginning to see the writing on the wall, or has at least considered the possibility, which is why he's leaving next year and let his successors clean up the mess.

I think Iger's banking on 2020 going by without too many big flops and the next phase of the MCU not having any setbacks. Now that Endgame's over and the MCU's not building towards anything, along with how badly Last Jedi and Plan IX tanked Star Wars and the tide starting to turn against woke culture, who knows how this decade will fare for the Rat?

Personally, I want the MCU to suffer its first flop in 2020 while Iger's still in charge of Disney...
 
Syaoran Li said:
Personally, I want the MCU to suffer its first flop in 2020 while Iger's still in charge of Disney...
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Same here, and it should be one of the properties Disney acquired from Fox. Acquiring 20th Century Fox was extremely costly for Disney (and is the only reason Iger is still the CEO) and if an MCU movie with the characters they got from Fox fails that'll send a strong message that nobody but the most ardent "what's a corporate monopoly? i only care about XMEN IN THE MCU" shills can ignore.
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I know its a massive meme in the Disney weirdo community and beyond to rag on Eisner and his mishaps but the guy did legitimately try, even after Frank Wells’ passing. Yes he fucked up after the Paris and China expansions but chris, Iger has fucked up nearly every aspect in directing the company thinking he knows what the audience wants.
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One of Eisner's mistakes was trying to have a "uncle Walt" style public persona which since he didn't have nearly as much charisma as Walt it came off as kinda cringy and trying too hard.

You'll notice Iger never tried to do that.
 
Dom Cruise said:
One of Eisner's mistakes was trying to have a "uncle Walt" style public persona which since he didn't have nearly as much charisma as Walt it came off as kinda cringy and trying too hard.

You'll notice Iger never tried to do that.
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Yep, no Unca Iger for us!
 
Dom Cruise said:
One of Eisner's mistakes was trying to have a "uncle Walt" style public persona which since he didn't have nearly as much charisma as Walt it came off as kinda cringy and trying too hard.

You'll notice Iger never tried to do that.
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ehh, Eisner's biggest mistake was big stupid weird hotels and generally being a doof, he was only Roger Moore of Uncles but at least it's not being Lazenby. I enjoyed that he was A Business Executive who happened to work in the Disney world, like when Chernobog was all stylin and then saw who it was and humbly apologized to Mister Eisner.

 
Even then, I'd much rather have Eisner being a tone-deaf doofus over Iger being strictly concerned with China-bucks, remaking everything, and buying every other property that has room to breathe. Eisner is almost kind of lovable in his incompetence and dorkiness. Iger just makes me angry and frustrated.
 
Alto said:
Even then, I'd much rather have Eisner being a tone-deaf doofus over Iger being strictly concerned with China-bucks, remaking everything, and buying every other property that has room to breathe. Eisner is almost kind of lovable in his incompetence and dorkiness. Iger just makes me angry and frustrated.
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Eisner is overall one hell of a mixed bag, he made good decisions and at the start of his run basically saved the company, but he also made bad decisions and by the end of his run Disney was damn near irrelevant, a regime change was must needed.

But Iger unfortunately turned out to be more out of the frying pan and into the fire.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
Eisner is overall one hell of a mixed bag, he made good decisions and at the start of his run basically saved the company, but he also made bad decisions and by the end of his run Disney was damn near irrelevant, a regime change was must needed.

But Iger unfortunately turned out o be more out of the frying pan and into the fire.
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God can't wait until Iger's kicked out. Problem is, I fear that his replacement will be even worse.
 
At least Eisner still carried on the Disney identity and made movies that stood in the public consciousness. Even if they weren't that good, like Pocahontas, people still talked about them.

Leave aside the Marvel/Star Was/remakes crap, what original movie has been done in Iger's regime that's been as popular as something like Little Mermaid or Aladdin? Only Frozen, and that's a bad sign tbh. In five years nobody will talk about Moana or Wreck It Ralph. And it's always better for your product to be remembered, good or bad, than just being "adequate".
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
God can't wait until Iger's kicked out. Problem is, I fear that his replacement will be even worse.
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I for one would not mind if his replacement makes even worse decisions that wind up tanking Disney. If they are merely mediocre, they’ll keep trucking along with no real hope of improvement, but a REALLY bad CEO could put the fear of God into their investors/shareholders and force them into a sink-or-swim situation.
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
How so?
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Others know even more about that than me as I've seen posts about it I don't recall but off the top of my head he's known for being cheap and is responsible for the constant nickel-and-diming going on at the parks. Prices are always rising and the quality of what you get for it either stays the same or even gets worse. Even big fans of the parks are complaining about how Disney only sees them as $$$ now (though you could argue they've only gotten the wool pulled off their eyes as to how the company is nowadays).

Note that the theme parks/resorts generally considered to be the best, Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea, are the only ones not owned or operated by Disney.
 
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