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Xerxes IX said:
Others know even more about that than me as I've seen posts about it I don't recall but off the top of my head he's known for being cheap and is responsible for the constant nickel-and-diming going on at the parks. Prices are always rising and the quality of what you get for it either stays the same or even gets worse. Even big fans of the parks are complaining about how Disney only sees them as $$$ now (though you could argue they've only gotten the wool pulled off their eyes as to how the company is nowadays).

Note that the theme parks/resorts generally considered to be the best, Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea, are the only ones not owned or operated by Disney.
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I believe he was responsible for the Galaxy’s Edge cost cutting. D23 promised interactive droids and costumed alien actors to entertain guests but something something not wanting to deal with the actor’s union and what could’ve brought some life to the area was tossed out.
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I believe he was responsible for the Galaxy’s Edge cost cutting. D23 promised interactive droids and costumed alien actors to entertain guests but something something not wanting to deal with the actor’s union and what could’ve brought some life to the area was tossed out.
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That wouldn't be the first time Disney cheaped out on something because it was deemed too expensive and too risky. Defunctland, or one of the shows like that, had a video on the Indiana Jones rollercoaster in Paris. It turned out Imagineers wanted a whole Indiana Jones themed land for the park but the budget kept being slashed because it was too ambitious/risky/what have you until all that was left was the roller coaster. It reminded me very much of the Galaxy's Edge situation, although they were left with a lot more than just one roller coaster—and therefore spent much more on a disappointing product.
 
Eisner's bad reputation is sort of unwarranted. He has a pretty good track history with allowing creative people to be creative and in fact embracing their creative sides. He's the only reason people know what the fuck The Muppets are outside of Sesame Street. The main problem is that Wells was the guy that knew how to make the money happen to cause the good ideas to flourish. Most of Eisner's flops are from over promising and being forced to under deliver once people started bringing up money. That's what happened with that hollywood ride, he promised big celebrities and got Ryan Stiles and Joe Piscapo.
 
2020Suicide said:
Eisner's bad reputation is sort of unwarranted. He has a pretty good track history with allowing creative people to be creative and in fact embracing their creative sides. He's the only reason people know what the fuck The Muppets are outside of Sesame Street. The main problem is that Wells was the guy that knew how to make the money happen to cause the good ideas to flourish. Most of Eisner's flops are from over promising and being forced to under deliver once people started bringing up money. That's what happened with that hollywood ride, he promised big celebrities and got Ryan Stiles and Joe Piscapo.
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Some of his ideas were good, even in that late, awful period... some weren't (the Fox Family deal was bad all around). But it got really bad by the early 00s. People were calling for Eisner to resign. There was the "Save Disney" site. He wasn't going to go out on top, we all knew that.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Some of his ideas were good, even in that late, awful period... some weren't (the Fox Family deal was bad all around). But it got really bad by the early 00s. People were calling for Eisner to resign. There was the "Save Disney" site. He wasn't going to go out on top, we all knew that.
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The early 2000s was when things really started getting bad, it just seemed like by 2003/2004 nobody really cared that much anymore about either Disney's movies or the theme parks, the closest was Pixar's movies but they were technically separate from Disney until they were bought.

Starting around 2006/2007 things started to turn around, but it was looking pretty bleak for a while there.
 
Xerxes IX said:
Others know even more about that than me as I've seen posts about it I don't recall but off the top of my head he's known for being cheap and is responsible for the constant nickel-and-diming going on at the parks. Prices are always rising and the quality of what you get for it either stays the same or even gets worse. Even big fans of the parks are complaining about how Disney only sees them as $$$ now (though you could argue they've only gotten the wool pulled off their eyes as to how the company is nowadays).

Note that the theme parks/resorts generally considered to be the best, Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea, are the only ones not owned or operated by Disney.
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iirc theme park dirt sheets say Nickel and Diming started under Eisner when word came down that each shop needed to pull its own weight
for example prior to that Liberty Square had an antiques shop, like anybody would buy an overpriced antique bicycle at the Magic Kingdom and carry that shit around all day or something, but it lent character to the setting so it was allowed to live even though the only thing anybody bought was old campaign buttons and coins and other tiny shit, but once every shop had to justify its own existence that led to the slippery slope that results in the same character shit in every store every where
New Bob is fat and I would not have sex with him but as far as I understand he's just carrying on the same shitshow of the past thirty years.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
They bought so many shows and have never done anything with them. All the Marvel shows, at least, are on Disney+, but I kind of want The Tick.
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Hell, I want to know what happened to all the anime they got in the Fox Family deal.

I know the rights to Digimon eventually went back to Haim Saban in the same deal that got him Power Rangers, and for a while, Digimon reruns aired on Nickelodeon and Nicktoons as well as Netflix and Hulu, and now Digimon is available on Starz while Discotek Media got the rights to Monster Rancher, but I'm curious to know what happened to the other anime that Fox Kids and Fox Family had around the turn of the millennium.

I miss Flint The Time Detective, and while the Fox Family dub of Escaflowne was garbage, it did have a kickass 90's techno soundtrack.
 
2020Suicide said:
Eisner's bad reputation is sort of unwarranted. He has a pretty good track history with allowing creative people to be creative and in fact embracing their creative sides. He's the only reason people know what the fuck The Muppets are outside of Sesame Street. The main problem is that Wells was the guy that knew how to make the money happen to cause the good ideas to flourish. Most of Eisner's flops are from over promising and being forced to under deliver once people started bringing up money. That's what happened with that hollywood ride, he promised big celebrities and got Ryan Stiles and Joe Piscapo.
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The funny guy from Whose Line?

Are you talking about that stars bus attraction thing in DL with cutouts of ppl like Whoopi?
 
Welp China's inflkuence has decreased somewhat thanks to CoronaChan and it looks likeDisney might finally get taken down a couple pegs. Looks like the Dystopia has been delayed boys
 
Syaoran Li said:
Hell, I want to know what happened to all the anime they got in the Fox Family deal.

I know the rights to Digimon eventually went back to Haim Saban in the same deal that got him Power Rangers, and for a while, Digimon reruns aired on Nickelodeon and Nicktoons as well as Netflix and Hulu, and now Digimon is available on Starz while Discotek Media got the rights to Monster Rancher, but I'm curious to know what happened to the other anime that Fox Kids and Fox Family had around the turn of the millennium.

I miss Flint The Time Detective, and while the Fox Family dub of Escaflowne was garbage, it did have a kickass 90's techno soundtrack.
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The rights have all probably expired by now, so maybe a company like Discotek can step in and bring them back.
 
Xerxes IX said:
Others know even more about that than me as I've seen posts about it I don't recall but off the top of my head he's known for being cheap and is responsible for the constant nickel-and-diming going on at the parks. Prices are always rising and the quality of what you get for it either stays the same or even gets worse. Even big fans of the parks are complaining about how Disney only sees them as $$$ now (though you could argue they've only gotten the wool pulled off their eyes as to how the company is nowadays).
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If I had to guess, now that they replaced "spend a lot of money to buy fucking everything" guy with "cheap ass" guy I suspect that means the board of directors is pissed Disney has lost a lot of money lately, and they want to cut costs and loses.

I only know that Galaxy's edge and Epi IX didn't earn as much as they wanted. Dunno what's going with Disney's earnings overall.
 
Pixy Misa said:
If I had to guess, now that they replaced "spend a lot of money to buy fucking everything" guy with "cheap ass" guy I suspect that means the board of directors is pissed Disney has lost a lot of money lately, and they want to cut costs and loses.

I only know that Galaxy's edge and Epi IX didn't earn as much as they wanted. Dunno what's going with Disney's earnings overall.
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Anything to do with Kathleen Kennedy and the Star Wars fiasco?
 
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