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Disney’s “Wish” Fails to Perform at the Box Office​

Disney didn’t score big at the box office with its latest animation film, “Wish.”

The studio’s latest film, with Ariana DeBose as the main character and Chris Pine as the big bad, bombed with moviegoers over the holiday break, TMZ reported.

“Wish” only reigned in $31.7 million through the 5-day “weekend, a significant difference to the projected $45-$50 mil over the same 5 days.

The film didn’t do well internationally either, pulling in just $17.3M.

Disney is typically a powerhouse that dominates the box office during this time of year, with releases like Encanto and Coco in the past.

However, this movie, which got good reviews, may have been impacted by the SAG strike. Now it joins the list of other Disney films that didn’t do so well, like ‘Indiana Jones’ and “The Haunted Mansion.”
 
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All I heard about the movie was that the "Villain" was completely in the right, to the point that it destroyed the entire premise.
I mean you could also say the same thing about Lion King.
Something tells me you're not really the best example to compare what the average little girl may relate to.
Maybe but kid me also knew what the fuck was up.

Didn't know why I could get underwear with Simba and Nala but not Scar at 5 though.
 
All I heard about the movie was that the "Villain" was completely in the right, to the point that it destroyed the entire premise.
I heard so too, but the summary on wikipedia reads like a condemnation of the nanny state. I'm a Communist. There are Christians who think it's Christianity-bashing ("don't pray to God, he's not the path to salvation"). Looks like it's a bad, incompetently made movie which makes people feel personally insulted by how bad it is.

Journalists are illiterate fucks. You don't "reign in" dollars at the box office. You "rake in" dollars. You "reign in" e.g. a team of misbehaving employees.
You rein in a team of misbehaving employees.
You reign in New Zealand.
(that was back on page 2)
 
Has the Mouse had any movie do decently well the past couple years besides Encanto? It just seems like they're on a loosing streak all around, both with Disney-Disney movies and MCU. The latter is because even normies are burnt out, but the former seems to be because the movies just aren't very good and are even more poorly advertised.

You'd hope the Mouse would take it as a sign to stop churning so much of this shit out so fast and focus on quality over quantity, but that will never happen.
 
Old-style animation takes effort and talent, and most autists have neither of these things.
I don't have the podcast on hand but Zach from Smiling Friends went into just how hard it was to make Mip actually work for one episode. They only pulled it off cause the lead animator went all in on finishing that one character and his movement to perfectly match the hobbit movie.

Love just how jarring Mip was to the rest of the cast.
 
lol you had a crush on Scar?
I wouldn't say crush but I thought he was the shit and gave zero fucks about princesses afterwards.

Oddly enough I've met other people who were the same way. All of them also grew up in abusive or otherwise toxic families so I think it's related somehow (I have ideas why but it's tl;dr and not really on topic for this thread).
 
I saw a mention of the old techniques, and they're... still sort of done, but they're profoundly expensive.

Redline, the anime movie from 2009, was entirely hand drawn, taking 7 years. The movie itself... isn't the best, but goddamn it's gorgeous and fun.

Another example would be Fantasian, that Apple Arcade JRPG, which has each area made using dioramas, and were scanned in by drone.


The problem is, those dioramas have to be moved around by pallet and forklift, and have a life expectancy of 3 years, if not broken up beforehand. Plus they take up a crapton of space.

It's still possible to do things the old way, but you'd need a company willing to offer time, money and expertise. Or fund it yourself.
 
Got hot and bothered over a lion before Kovu even graced the TV.

Explains a lot.
Kovu is lame, he's not evil and doesn't violently murder his shitty family or attempt to revolutionize the pridelands.

I like Zira though. She terrible but she's fun (also like shipping her with Scar with the dynamic of basically the more evil furry version of Utena/Anthy that ends in disaster).
 
Has the Mouse had any movie do decently well the past couple years besides Encanto? It just seems like they're on a loosing streak all around, both with Disney-Disney movies and MCU. The latter is because even normies are burnt out, but the former seems to be because the movies just aren't very good and are even more poorly advertised.

You'd hope the Mouse would take it as a sign to stop churning so much of this shit out so fast and focus on quality over quantity, but that will never happen.
I think everything has gone pretty shitty for them. Every studio seems to be trying to blame Corona lockdowns, but given how basic the problems are with the stories and how these problems persisted before Corona, that seems unlikely.

Part of the problem seems like they want to avoid having romance plots where love seems to save the day (so no princess like stories) while also trying to mix in a "well maybe the villain had a point" type storyline. The latter of which doesn't work if you intend to imprison them for all eternity or give them really positive traits like outright granting people's wishes.

In Wish's case, it sounds like the wrap up for the story is "make your own dreams come true", which doesn't work for those wanting to grow wings to fly with or breathe fire. You've now made the magical kingdom a non-magical one, to a lot of people that'd be a step down. Suspected they'd do something like this because they keep trying for these lame endings that match up with that WEF line "you'll own nothing and be happy".

It's like if they had a movie about Santa and the ending was him closing up his shop because should be giving gifts themselves. There may be a lesson in there, but it'd be considered a lame ending to a Santa movie. Disney needs to move on from the mature endings and go for the magical happy ending ones.
 
Part of the problem seems like they want to avoid having romance plots where love seems to save the day (so no princess like stories) while also trying to mix in a "well maybe the villain had a point" type storyline.
I don't think it's that. Both of those are things I desperately wanted from Disney movies as a kid (and part of why I ultimately ditched them for anime). Most Ghibli movies have complex villains who aren't unsympathetic, and many have no romance plots and they're still doing well.

I think it's just the Mouse being both greedy and lazy. They want to churn these things out on a schedule and don't want to spend time working out the kinks and tightening up the writing.

I wouldn't call any of this shit woke either since I don't think having gay people or black people in something is woke. Especially since Disney is a soulless megacorp that isn't going to even put minority characters in something unless it feels confident it's not going to hurt it making money. The only value the mouse is trying to push is making money for itself.
 
That's a cheap looking cosplay but it's a good first-wait what do you mean that's the official actress and costume
That was my reaction to Netflix One Piece.

The funny thing about The Princess and the Frog is that despite being the sort of “proto-woke” that Disney has been doing since the 90’s, a lot of modern SJWs find it problematic because the movie doesn’t have anything to do with racism, despite its setting.
There was some implications of racism. One of the more jarring parts of Princess and the Frog was the (perhaps unintentional) appearance of Tabasco sauce, the distinctive (and very common, at least in America) green capped hot sauce that is made in the backwaters of Louisiana.

A few years later there was Wreck-It Ralph, which had video game characters but also the appearance of an animated Subway cup (in the "real world").

The biggest problem with The Princess & The Frog, of course, was it trying too hard to be a "Disney Renaissance" film but without the talent that made those films so memorable in the first place.
 
I dunno what they tried to do with this movie, but there is some implication that Spanish nobility married Muslims? That didn't happen. And why are they portraying moors as black? Moors aren't black. Moors and Souther Spaniards don't look that different.
Moors came from Africa. So Morrocans are exactly the same as somebody from Congo... or Botswanna.
 
Has the Mouse had any movie do decently well the past couple years besides Encanto?
Encanto did not do well. It costed 150 mil and made 250. When you account for distribution, they only "made" around 125 and that still leaves marketing.

People don't understand how expensive these bloated monstrosities are.

It blew my mind when I found out that "Your Name" only costed 5 million to make to the point where I genuinely wonder where the fuck all the money is going.

"Japan uses slave labour to make animation bro", the difference should not be 40 fucking times bigger because I'm pretty sure disney animators aren't being paid 100+ million per movie either.
 
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