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Disney’s “Wish” Fails to Perform at the Box Office​

Disney didn’t score big at the box office with its latest animation film, “Wish.”

The studio’s latest film, with Ariana DeBose as the main character and Chris Pine as the big bad, bombed with moviegoers over the holiday break, TMZ reported.

“Wish” only reigned in $31.7 million through the 5-day “weekend, a significant difference to the projected $45-$50 mil over the same 5 days.

The film didn’t do well internationally either, pulling in just $17.3M.

Disney is typically a powerhouse that dominates the box office during this time of year, with releases like Encanto and Coco in the past.

However, this movie, which got good reviews, may have been impacted by the SAG strike. Now it joins the list of other Disney films that didn’t do so well, like ‘Indiana Jones’ and “The Haunted Mansion.”
 
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Hate to say it but I actually enjoyed Hotel Transylvania 1 and 2. Much more entertaining then anything Disney has made in the last 10 years.
How to Train Your Dragon trilogy is way more entertaining that anything from recent Disney. Also was Kung Fu Panda.

KFP is a good example of how to portray a culture respectfully. It reminds you a lot of what Disney did with Mulan in the 90s.
 
The funny thing about The Princess and the Frog is that despite being the sort of “proto-woke” that Disney has been doing since the 90’s, a lot of modern SJWs find it problematic because the movie doesn’t have anything to do with racism, despite its setting.
I don't agree with the hatred for princess and the frog, I think its one of the better movies disney has put out recently. People complain about the blackwashing, but its not really imo, its an entirely seperate story that just shares a premise and it justifies the cast being black by setting it in new orleance and replacing traditional witchcraft with voodoo.

It goes out of its way to justify its existence unlike most blackwashed garbage today that just randomly splatters shit on random characters to make them brown.

Shit, its closer to the emperor's new groove than princess and the frog of anything.

Its a rather intresting spin on the tale, and the reason it sucks is because the writing is shit, but its not shit in a woke way, its shit in a traditional "we have no idea what we're doing way."
I wouldn't call any of this shit woke either since I don't think having gay people or black people in something is woke.
Mmm. Partly agree, partly disagree. Black people have to justify their presence which I think princess and the frog does. If they don't they can fuck right off.

As for gay shit, hard disagree. Movies with an audience of children (or any movies really) should not normalize or promote depravity.
How to Train Your Dragon trilogy is way more entertaining that anything from recent Disney. Also was Kung Fu Panda.

KFP is a good example of how to portray a culture respectfully. It reminds you a lot of what Disney did with Mulan in the 90s.
Both kung fu panda and httyd suffer from the "shit how do we end it" issue and in both franchises the third movie is the worst.

That said, while not as good as the other two, kung fu panda 3 is still decent (and way better than anything that comes out today) but httyd3 is the most catastrophically dogshit piece of writing I've ever witnessed and suffers from many of the same issues as toy story 4, where they just take a hacksaw and butcher every single character, theme and message, for the sake of cheap emotional thrills.
 
Both suffer from the same thing: Princess and the Frog have nothing to do with New Orleans in the same way Kuzko's story has nothing to do with Peru. They just use the settings because it's fun.
Princess and the frog also lacks focus and relies too much on convoluted plot magic.

There's the blood fuel requirement, the "turn into a frog if you're not a princess" side effect, the "princess of the fair" loophole, the midnight stipulation, the "friends on the other side will fucking kill you if the amulet breaks" sub-section in paragraph 8, etc. etc.

Its a mishmash of random magic deal with the devil tropes that work on their own and kinda make intuitive sense by virtue of cultural osmosis but when you throw them all toogether they start to get annoying.

By contrast new Groove had a simple premise: There is an animal potion and there is a human potion, and that's the end of it. Its simple, consise and consistent, the characters have a clear goal in mind and they try to achieve it developing personalities on the way instead of spending half the movie looking for loopholes.

Its why new groove is a character driven film while princess and frog struggles between the plot driving and the characters driving and ends up going nowhere in either category, resulting in a film that's both overdone and undercooked. It needed more runtime or better writers to get something decent out of the premise.
 
Supposedly there's a takeover attempt in progress by a conservative activist investor named Nelson Peltz. Ike Perlmutter supposedly sold him his shares.

Godspeed to him. I hope he and others succeed.

Unless AI gets really good at tweening I think western 2D is as good as dead.

Nah. Plenty of independent 2D animation is thriving in the west. And as much of a Lolcow as Vivzie is, even Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are slightly more watchable than Disney at this point. If Vivzie simply got over her demon fetishism and yaoi addiction, and acted her age, she could do amazing things.

If you take a look at productions like Treasure Planet, the Princess and the Frog, or the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie, the best assumption is that they set those ones up to fail on purpose so that they don't have to justify making any more 2D movies.
 
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Godspeed to him. I hope he and others succeed.



Nah. Plenty of independent 2D animation is thriving in the west. And as much of a Lolcow as Vivzie is, even Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are slightly more watchable than Disney at this point (which isn't saying much, but I digress).

If you take a look at productions like Treasure Planet, the Princess and the Frog, or the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie, the best assumption is that they set those ones up to fail on purpose so that they don't have to justify making any more 2D movies.
No no no. Trust me. You do not want Peltz. He keeps trying to shoehorn his talentless daughter Nicola into things
 
Nah. Plenty of independent 2D animation is thriving in the west. And as much of a Lolcow as Vivzie is, even Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are slightly more watchable than Disney at this point (which isn't saying much, but I digress).
Indy stuff has always been around and will always be. But I was thinking more about major 2d projects. It feels like it has been a decade since the last big American 2d movie.


If you take a look at productions like Treasure Planet, the Princess and the Frog, or the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie, the best assumption is that they set those ones up to fail on purpose so that they don't have to justify making any more 2D movies.
They wanted Treasure Planet to succeed because they had a sequel in preproduction that got canned once numbers came out. Princess and the Frog was absolutely used to show investors that 2d is dead and 3d is the future with the success of Pixar and Tangled. The Winnie the Pooh movie feels like a last hoorah for American 2d before it was taken out back. If AI can do the grunt work for 2d then maybe we can see a return of big budget 2d projects.
 
Indy stuff has always been around and will always be. But I was thinking more about major 2d projects. It feels like it has been a decade since the last big American 2d movie.



They wanted Treasure Planet to succeed because they had a sequel in preproduction that got canned once numbers came out. Princess and the Frog was absolutely used to show investors that 2d is dead and 3d is the future with the success of Pixar and Tangled. The Winnie the Pooh movie feels like a last hoorah for American 2d before it was taken out back. If AI can do the grunt work for 2d then maybe we can see a return of big budget 2d projects.
It's in the primitive stages now, but there will come a time when either AI can digitize live actors into cartoons or cartoon models can be rigged to live action motion capture. Corridor Crew has done a bunch of work demonstrating how it could be done:


It will probably take a lot more computing power than the average person has (and require the skills of professional modelers and programmers,), but there could come a time when a tiny studio could make Disney level projects using mo-cap, AI, computer generated backgrounds, AI voice actors, copyright-free sounds and music, and a few dedicated nerds.
 
lol, lmao
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Redline, the anime movie from 2009, was entirely hand drawn, taking 7 years. The movie itself... isn't the best, but goddamn it's gorgeous and fun.
I remember seeing Redline years and years ago. Once the actual race starts, there's effectively zero plot (and the story beforehand is pretty by-the-numbers), but it really is one of those "enjoy the spectacle" movies. It's great for just sitting there and unwinding and watching something flashy and without pretensions of what it is or isn't. As cliche as it might be to say, you could tell that passion went into bringing it together.
 
Is it autistic of me to believe that Disney (or rather, the people that infiltrated it) is doing this on purpose?

Committing suicide?
It's as if they were using The Producers as a business handbook. It's all there. Bad scripts. "Make it gay". Portraying villains as heroes. Casting random stoned goons in lead positions. If you watch the old movie or the more recent musicals, you can actually cross off a BS Bingo chart.
 
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