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Disaster DNC adopts rule requiring candidates to run and register as Democrat - Totally not aimed at Bernie
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A lot of them aren't new, but repealing Obama legacy EOs with his own, so there's that too, Trump's petty enough that I can see him eventually undoing all but a handful of them.
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There is indeed an American Socialist Party but like all American third parties they're largely irrelevant and couldn't capture 1% of the vote if they tried.
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Even so they consistently vote with the party so their constituents don't eat them alive.
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I agree with all of that except for a slight reservation in the last clause. It was just as criminal to cover it up as to have ordered it, but it was legit exceptional to think of doing it in the first place. Why bother with frat pranks on a guy you're going to beat anyway?
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Nixon's an interesting case in how the psychology of Batman villains maybe isn't as unrealistic as you'd think.... Underneath the gaudy costumes they're actually normal, and maybe even exceptionally skilled people, who could be amazing and world-renowned with their legitimate talents, if not just average Joes comfortably middle-class and content, yet they just can't help but break the law due to unsatiable psychological compulsions that override common sense and rationality (fanaticism, obsession, greed, grief).
Nixon had all the power, all the money, all the adulation in the world, and it wasn't enough, he still had to "cheat" to ensure he'd win..... even when everyone around him would've let him win fair and square. And I'll leave at that so we don't thread derail.
Nixon had all the power, all the money, all the adulation in the world, and it wasn't enough, he still had to "cheat" to ensure he'd win..... even when everyone around him would've let him win fair and square. And I'll leave at that so we don't thread derail.
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Ironically, they probably had some fantasy about finding evidence of collusion between the DNC and the Russians.
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You're not as off topic as you fear. I can't think why the DNC is so afraid of Bernie. It's almost as if they were compelled to make backroom deals and handle everything in the slimiest way possible, even when it kills them.
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I'm both impressed and disappointed that Bernie still has ANY followers left at this point, let alone so many die-hard "Bernie Bros".
When push came to shove against Clinton, he not only gave up without a fight, he sold out as hard as he could and laughed all the way to the bank.
Yet they still hail him as their champion of the little guy.
When push came to shove against Clinton, he not only gave up without a fight, he sold out as hard as he could and laughed all the way to the bank.
Yet they still hail him as their champion of the little guy.
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As a Nader voter, I'm aware of that, having been slapped with these slurs. I was never going to vote for Gore after he picked Lieberman as his running mate, a sniveling little traitor who sided with the Republicans against Clinton.
However, Bernie Sanders would have caused a lot more damage as an independent candidate. Another candidate of the Nader/Sanders variety in the future would split off more of the increasingly disaffected Democratic base, who are about as sick and tired as Republicans had to have been to nominate Trump over the objections of the RNC.
It just strikes me as incredibly spiteful and foolish to pull an openly corrupt move like this right now. Also it ridiculously purports to bind the candidate to govern as a Democrat if he's elected. So if some guy claimed to be a Democrat, ran as a Democrat, got elected as a Democrat, became President, and then just said go fuck yourselves, what are they going to do? Unelect him?
That's nonsense. He said all through the election that if he didn't win the nomination, he wasn't going to throw a tantrum about it.
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I think it might have to do with why they think socialism would work in the first place, since I don't think many of his followers equated his positions with socialism (or if they did, went the "this time it'll work!" route). A lot of people who espouse that view tend to have a naive ideal of socialism; as in, they believe the ideology but don't realize how it doesn't work when applied. Socialism would require every single person, at their core, to be altruistic and fair. And yet every time socialistic countries are run, it ends up (in my view at least) as two groups of wealthy and poor, no middle. (Please correct me if I'm wrong; I've never read any works, let alone scholarly in-depth ones, so if I'm horribly mistaken then feel free to destroy my argument) It reminds me of the interviews with hippie communes who would end up fighting each other on who would do the dishes and menial chores. It's also shown by who were Bernie's biggest supporters: millenials, college kids, basically redditers (I know that's a wide generalization but I've noticed KF userbase tends to trend higher in ages).
Basically, naive people who were just entering the political sphere for the first time. And, when Clinton was nominated for the primary, the media went 100% on Trump. I didn't consume much media, but it seemed like the only time they ever focused on anything non-Trump was to praise Clinton, and when it was revealed how the DNClintons shafted Bernie it was in the news and gone. No one talked about how he was bought out, or that he used that money to buy a house, and in fact I didn't know this stuff until I read it here.
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People like him because he seems like a genuinely nice person that cares about poor people, and basically no other senators/governors do. He didn't do anything to fuck that up since then. People will continue to like him.
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This was also a trend with Ron Paul supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the people here were Paul supporters at one point when they were younger, or even are now.
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Not surprising
Political parties server their own interests, not the interests of their nation or even their own political spectrum.
Political parties server their own interests, not the interests of their nation or even their own political spectrum.
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We are a long way off from the primaries but with the way things are going, Democrats have right to fear a clown car primary letting a weird candidate squeak through. There are a whole lot of them trying to position themselves as the person to run against Trump, including multiple potential candidates that are aiming at the same ideological space, and that might just divide things enough for a Bernie-esque candidate.
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They're practically giving Trump the 2020 election at this rate. If they really wanted to win, they wouldn't have made this a policy, and I'm not even a fan of Sanders. I guess their own interests are more important.
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As a foreigner, could someone explain to me how this is a bad thing? It just makes sense to me that if you run for a party, you'd be a full member of the party
Not necessarily, Bernie was a socialist but caucased with the democrats and I'm sure there's more left leaning people that join with the dnc in name only. It's innocuous but basically aimed to prevent someone like Bernie challenging Her majesty again.
It's a sign that the DNC is trying to tighten control over the party. If you didn't keep up on how the DNC primary went a few years ago, the DNC was basically an extension of the the Hillary campaign and pulled a lot of shady shit to get her to win the candidacy. This is likely their way of making sure they control the process and who gets elected. And if they control who shows up on the ballot, they can control the messaging and the agenda.
So no more chance of a populist candidate like Bernie making headlines and no more stream of bad press when they try and shove Hillary down our throats again.
Not sure but another side effect may be that you have to turn over all your campaign data and mailing lists to the dnc as well if you're a candidate? There was a massive shitstorm because Hillary wanted Bernie's campaign database so she could better shill. This would solve the problem.
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So how about them Whigs then?
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