Do activists who push the Extermination Theory of how Indians lost America realize how weak and incompetent that makes Indians look? - Why is calling indians losers considered the politically correct thing to do?

[grump]

There are 3 prominent theories of the overarching background factor for why the Indians 'lost' America:

Germ narrative: The Indians were severely weakened and often outright destroyed by disease the Europeans brought over making them ripe for the picking

Development narrative: America was not very densely populated or developed compared to the old world making it easier for the Europeans to come sweeping in.

Extermination narrative: The Indians densely populated America and were well developed relative to the old world yet somehow a ragtag group of criminals, religious fanatics, nutcases, and assorted undesirables shipped across the ocean who all hated each other managed to build up their strength and kick the asses of the Indians so thoroughly they practically wiped them off two continents. Nobody else in history from the smallest tribe facing the most advanced army. From the cruelest dictator to the most genius of military commanders of all time facing the most inept. None have gotten their asses kicked as thoroughly and completely as the Indians did. Every other tribe in history has managed to somehow survive or fight their way to a better outcome but the Indians took the L all the way to the very bottom. And just so we're clear this victory of yt's is overwhelmingly due to the Europeans kicking the Indians ass so badly. With disease and other factors playing at most a secondary often implied to be a far less important role.



In recent decades and especially within the past few years, the Extermination narrative has become the overwhelming favorite of the mainstream media and those claiming to like the Indians. To the point where anyone championing other theories, mostly the Germ narrative are called racist. But....isn't it kinda the most insulting narrative? It basically calls the indians the weakest biggest losers in history overwhelmed by European martial prowess to a degree nobody else has been in history. Even saying the indians weren't as technologically advanced while it can be interpreted as insulting isn't as insulting as claiming that Indians were advanced too but somehow still got their asses handed to them.

So why does everybody act like telling Indians that they got their butts kicked more than anyone else in history and it was primarily due to how superior the Europeans were at overpowering them treated as such a nice and respectful thing to say?

 

[xXWild_DripXx]

Guns beat spears and arrows.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

This is nothing new, it's also considered politically correct to treat niggers like they're all severely retarded mental cripples, criminals and leeches from birth who can't ever speak for themselves and need liberal white women to do it for them, with no hope of recovery ever unless whitey gives them reparations.

 

[grump]

Guns beat spears and arrows.

Yeah that seems like an obvious avenue to seize on but you're increasingly not allowed to say that the indians were less technologically advanced than the Europeans. The current narrative is they were just as advanced but still got their asses kicked.

 

[Divine Power]

Indians are inferior thats is just cope

 

[Super-Chevy454]

For extermination, I presume they skipped the part where Indians kill each other.

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

When Settlers give blankets infected with germs to the Indigenous people, isnt that a form of Extermination?

Population was lowered by Settlers through other means as well, like killing Buffalo. Huge piles of Buffalo, way more than could be eaten, killed so Native people couldnt eat and use them. Lowering the population is a goal of extermination.

Also the cultural extermination that took place in Residential Schools like beating kids for speaking their native tongue (way worse than us speaking English in Spanisch or French class) or cutting their hair. Or adopting out Native kids to White parents (my Mom is one of those kids) In Canada its called the 60s Sweep cause it was so common.

 

[grump]

When Settlers give blankets infected with germs to the Indigenous people, isnt that a form of Extermination?

Population was lowered by Settlers through other means as well, like killing Buffalo. Huge piles of Buffalo, way more than could be eaten, killed so Native people couldnt eat and use them. Lowering the population is a goal of extermination.

Also the cultural extermination that took place in Residential Schools like beating kids for speaking their native tongue (way worse than us speaking English in Spanisch or French class) or cutting their hair. Or adopting out Native kids to White parents (my Mom is one of those kids) In Canada its called the 60s Sweep cause it was so common.

There is one story of some military officer giving out infected blankets and I don't think there was any confirmed outcome and somehow that mutated into Americans handing out millions of smallpox blankets over the centuries as some standard policy in the public imagination.

Also the cultural extermination that took place in Residential Schools like beating kids for speaking their native tongue (way worse than us speaking English in Spanisch or French class) or cutting their hair. Or adopting out Native kids to White parents (my Mom is one of those kids) In Canada its called the 60s Sweep cause it was so common.

People being taken and trained in a dominant culture has gone on throughout history everywhere. From the Romans raising celts to the medieval practice of hostage taking nobles to the Macedonian royal children being trained in rival city states and libtards want to pretend this is something invented in North America in the 1800s.

 

[Broadside]

Those same people who whine about muh natives told me we should mock the Confederates for being losers in a war so I don't think they're too consistent in their beliefs

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

I havent heard of people saying Britisch and French people invented cultural extermination, but I havent been on Tumblr since they banned Cornographic Material

Even amongst the Settlers, there were Divisions between who was "White" enough. Today some people talk about Reperaations, while the people theyre demanding money from are the grankids of Irish and Italian people who were being fucked over. Whats considered White Culture now wasnt a few generations ago.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

In recent decades and especially within the past few years, the Extermination narrative has become the overwhelming favorite of the mainstream media and those claiming to like the Indians. To the point where anyone championing other theories, mostly the Germ narrative are called racist. But....isn't it kinda the most insulting narrative? It basically calls the indians the weakest biggest losers in history overwhelmed by European martial prowess to a degree nobody else has been in history. Even saying the indians weren't as technologically advanced while it can be interpreted as insulting isn't as insulting as claiming that Indians were advanced too but somehow still got their asses handed to them.

So why does everybody act like telling Indians that they got their butts kicked more than anyone else in history and it was primarily due to how superior the Europeans were at overpowering them treated as such a nice and respectful thing to say?

Even modern far-left history books still say most Indians died from disease, they just have to make it sound like white people were behind it because then they can't blame colonialism. Truth is there's very few cases of deliberate extermination outside of isolated massacres. The only sustained and successful effort at Indian genocide was California where the casualties of actual massacres is somewhere in the five figure range (it gets exaggerated, but there's plenty of evidence it was often done). But even there most Indians died from disease and famine and not a white guy shooting or poisoning them.

When Settlers give blankets infected with germs to the Indigenous people, isnt that a form of Extermination?

Happened like 2 or 3 times, and no evidence it ever caused a major epidemic.

 

[Apteryx Retardi]

The progs don't give a shit about feather indians unless they can use them to guilt or grift. Never have, actually.

It was always about niggers and assorted immigrant browns.

 

[Divine right to rule]

North American Indians were still hunter-gatherer nomads while the central and south-americans had built civilization, so it is pretty obvious that their population was quite a lot lower. To be fair, NA climate is less ideal for agriculture than in the south, but nomadic tribes just can't support large populations.

And remember, the Central Americans and the Incas were subjugated by a few hundred spaniards with rather primitive firearms, breastplates and horses, and those were powerful kingdoms with functioning infrastructure, a far cry from nomads in tents.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

In recent decades and especially within the past few years, the Extermination narrative has become the overwhelming favorite of the mainstream media and those claiming to like the Indians.

Can you show some proof of this? This mostly just sounds like We Wuz black supremacy stuff recast for featherhead injuns. And while I'm sure there are some that believe it, it's probably mostly fringe schizos.

 

[TJT]

I highly recommend reading some accounts of these times. Books like the Florentine Codex documenting when the Spanish met the Mesoamericans.

The very first day the Spanish met the Mesoamericans (Aztecs) they were gifted a feast. In order to bless this feast the Aztecs ritually sacrificed a dozen slaves over a bunch of dried corn. The Aztetcs were then perplexed as to why the Christian Spaniards of the 16th century were universally disgusted by this. As human sacrifice had been taboo on the European continent for well over a thousand years by this point.

Similarly, during the American Indian wars the white Europeans duly noted that Indian slaving raids deliberately killed anyone except young women (usually). They actively killed all children under age like 10 or something. The Americans thought this was disgusting and the Indians refused to be bound by the white man morality.

This is just a taste of it too. They were not an equal culture to our own. Not by a longshot.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

There is one story of some military officer giving out infected blankets and I don't think there was any confirmed outcome and somehow that mutated into Americans handing out millions of smallpox blankets over the centuries as some standard policy in the public imagination.

The whole story came from the French and Indian war when during the siege of one of the forts the commanding British Officer decided to put blankets that were supposed to be infected with smallpox to protect the for from raiding tribes who had done some horrid things. The thing was smallpox dies in cold weather. This morphed into the whole smallpox blanket story through the jew marxist Howard Zinn and his propaganda group where he portrayed the American Indians as some proto-communist and feminist society.

 

[Judge Holden]

The mindset of White Man's burden never went away. The idea that the only people all the tens of thousands of years of human history capable of morality and agency and ambition and innovation are white people is still dogma in even the most pozzloaded of college campuses....it simply became self loathing instead of self serving.

Since only whites are considered capable of morality, only whites are evil. Since only whites are capable of agency, only white people's crimes and atrocities are worth mentioning. Since only whites are capable of ambition, only white people's greed and expansion and exploitation is worth condemning. Since only white people innovate, only white people's creations have negative side effects, and even then only when white people use them.

Everyone else in the world, from africa to asia to native americans to australasia have the sum totals of their combined histories and conflicts and empires and advancements boiled in a pot down to some grey aesthetic sludge which is then used to flavour the generic "brown people history" archetype used for every non white society.

You know, the one where everyone was happy and wore beautiful ethnic clothing every day of the year and ate nothing but a feast of delicious ethnic street food four times a day, all conflicts were fun and cool and super badass and nobody really got hurt, all empires were bastions of enlightenment and progress, all slaves were effectively treated like nobility and generously allowed in to these wonderful brown societies and became besties with their owners, there was no filth, no disease, no hunger, no bigotry.....until WHITE people arrived.

If these people had to treat history without these double standards then they would have to either damn non-white people as harshly as they do white people, or stop bitching about white people specifically......and that aint ever going to happen

 

[Aquinas 2]

Yeah that seems like an obvious avenue to seize on but you're increasingly not allowed to say that the indians were less technologically advanced than the Europeans. The current narrative is they were just as advanced but still got their asses kicked.

show me where thats a school text book and not some insane twitter retard or some shitty e-news rag

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

When Settlers give blankets infected with germs to the Indigenous people, isnt that a form of Extermination?

not when germ theory was 200+ years away from being discovered. Rest of your post can be considered a valid point tho

 

[Troonos]

They lost hundreds of years of war because they were inferior.

When Settlers give blankets infected with germs to the Indigenous people, isnt that a form of Extermination?

The intentional use of smallpox blankets is a myth.