Do war widows raise effeminate men?

[Skitarii]

You've probably heard the addage before: "WW2 killed the last true man in Britain" or "The strongest men of France perished in the Great War".

Single mother homes tend to raise sons who are less adjusted when they don't recieve a father figure, and war does tend to create a lot of widows while killing off a good chunk of would-be father figures. In this regard, do long periods of devastating war lead to an increase in social deviancy and moral degenerates? The German Peasants War lead to the rise of Martin Luther, the Hundred Years War created such monsters as Gilles de Rais and schizophrenics as Jeanne d'Arc, the Boxer Rebellion lead to a massive organized crime problem in Southern China, the War of the Triple Alliance resulted the most corrupt and unstable government in Paraguayan history, the Congo Crisis gave way to child soldiers in the 20th and 21st centuries, among many other examples.

What do you think, A&H?

 

[Burgerasssand]

Yes also
>schizophrenics as Jeanne d'Arc
kys Godless faggot

 

[Skitarii]

Yes also
>schizophrenics as Jeanne d'Arc
kys Godless faggot

1. She's a w*man
2. She believed in the f*lioque

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

>strongest men
>in France
Choose one, nigga

 

[Miss Misery]

Name a time when there have been a truly significant number of war widows since WWII.

Compare to rates of troons.

Try again.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

A) Stop calling deep thoughts A&H dang it.

B) This faggot shit with the fucking father figure nonsense is always so retarded. Motherfucking Ghengis Khan had no dad from age 9, he was exiled and had to wander the steppes with his mother; Ivan the Terrible's dad died when he was 3; Julius Ceasar's dad died at age 16; George Washington's dad died when he was 11.
Napoleon Bonaparte's dad died when he was 16, and he said this, at least according to wikipedia:


I knew about Ghengis Khan previously, but those other examples were legitimately just random figures that popped into my head that I searched. If you look back at some of the most influential men in history, I'd say it's actually more likely than average that they didn't have a specific father figure around.

How do people think this worked in the past, daddy would throw baseball with you and tell you to be honorable and look out for others and suddenly boys would go "Oh right, I shouldn't be a useless fucking faggot!"? War was constant in the past, men were far more likely to die than they are today, it was very, very common for men to be raised primarily by their mothers.

The issue with masculinity in the modern world is about lack of opportunity for role fulfillment; society is currently stagnant so there's nothing for men to challenge and overcome to prove their worth to themselves and society and to separate the strong from the weak. Men who'd in any other time and place be warriors, leaders, crafters, have no purpose, so they just sit and waste away while their driven minds turn inwards on themselves.

 

[Skitarii]

Ghengis Khan had no dad

Killed and raped thousands, exterminated hundreds of cultures and left behind his streetshitter descendants all across romania and ukraine, where they do nothing except get involved in organized crime and kill more people

Ivan the Terrible

Killed and raped thousands including his own son, took underage brides, caused the collapse of his country by dying

Both of these people were unstable mass-murderers, that's not normal behavior

Napoleon Bonaparte

Napoleon was a faggot, 'nuff said. He huffed milf farts, larped as his OC/Caesarsona, ordered his men to build retarded shit in Egypt and believed in even more retarded shit, got involved in organized crime in his youth and was described as an unstable faggot by General Augereau during the Peninsular War. If that sounds like you, man I'm kinda sorry your life be like that

The issue with masculinity in the modern world is about lack of opportunity for role fulfillment; society is currently stagnant so there's nothing for men to challenge and overcome to prove their worth to themselves and society and to separate the strong from the weak. Men who'd in any other time and place be warriors, leaders, crafters, have no purpose, so they just sit and waste away while their driven minds turn inwards on themselves.

In any other period in history, you'd be a street-cleaner, along with 90% of the site

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

No
For one, total war selects men regardless of how alpha they supposedly are.
Men are conscripted who would never enlist while some gung-ho warrior types are excluded because of stupid shit like “they can’t see very well.”

Then they’re thrown into a meat grinder where being lucky counts for way more than physical prowess or even things like shooting ability, because death most likely means random artillery shell lands on you.

On a battlefield nobody knows who is going to fight and who won’t until it actually happens.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I somewhat agree and disagree, but I have a pet theory that the Vietnam War killed, injured, and discredited the best boomers. A lot of the worst boomers either dodged the draft, were hippies until they realized they could be more hedonistic when they had more power and money, and were selfish assholes. I’ve met plenty of cool boomers, but many of them were scarred by the war, injured, or maligned as baby killers. Funny enough the vets tend to be less hawkish on war, even if they believe in keeping the military well funded.

Ironically, the ones that were hippies, ie middle class and upper middle class leftists, would go on to become major war mongers. They often want to overthrow any country that defies them. They would screw over their less powerful boomers, typically those in small town America, by hallowing out America’s industry to save a buck. They would also support breaking down legal migration so to get better leverage over Mexican and American workers, thus saving them money.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I still don't get how the Ruskies aren't feminized to the same degree as the west, and they lost a lot more lads during the 20th century that there is a noticeable difference in life expectancy between men and women over there.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I still don't get how the Ruskies aren't feminized to the same degree as the west, and they lost a lot more lads during the 20th century that there is a noticeable difference in life expectancy between men and women over there.

Yeah if war widows raised effeminate men then Russia and China would be the gayest countries on earth.

 

[Montalbane]

It's almost like this theory is absolute bullshit concocted by people who live online and don't have a clue about the world outside of their sissy hypno sites.

 

[The Foxtrot]

I still don't get how the Ruskies aren't feminized to the same degree as the west, and they lost a lot more lads during the 20th century that there is a noticeable difference in life expectancy between men and women over there.

Because the Soviet Union didn't tolerate faggot shit, for starters.

Post-WW2, odds were if you were a young boy in the Soviet Union, you were being raised by your mother or older sister(s), who themselves fought the Germans. When your mom spent the war crewing a T-34, or your older sister(s) spent that same time flying in an Il-2, it'd be hard for them to be "feminine" with you when they were just as hardassed as the other men in the Red Army.

These men then grew up, and they raised the generation of Soviet men that went into Afghanistan and stomped the dogshit out of the towelheads.

 

[Sanity]

Single mother homes tend to raise sons who are less adjusted when they don't recieve a father figure, and war does tend to create a lot of widows while killing off a good chunk of would-be father figures.

You have to understand that an overwhelming majority of single mothers are single not because they are widowed, but because of poor life choices (or accidental pregancies, if we were to be compassionate). Most mothers don't end up being single mothers, because it is a shitty life situation, creating a lot of stress, and normal women want to avoid it at all costs. Even kids from divorced parents get to see their fathers on the regular. To be an actual single mother, you need to have issues beforehand, that will make you unable to wait to be in a relationship with a decent partner before choosing to have a child. I won't delve deeper on that subject, because I'm not competent enough on this. If we think that married mothers are usually normal people, war widows were, for the most part, normal women who lost their husbands on the turmoils of war. Single mothers, on the other hand, are broken people for the most part.
This is also why kids from single father homes turn out to be decent individuals for the most part : women don't tend to leave their offspring after months of pregnancy and hours of painful labor. Single fathers are mostly widowed.

Tld;dr : single mothers and war widows are single for different reasons : the first ones because of faults in the character, the second ones because of geopolitical context

However, growing up in wartimes tend to create more violence in males, see brutalization of societies. I don't think it create effeminate males. The first generation of lascivious and hedonistic males were boomers, that were born after the war, and didn't get to live through it, opposed to kids born of war widows, after or during the war, before their father died.

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

To be an actual single mother, you need to have issues beforehand, that will make you unable to wait to be in a relationship with a decent partner before choosing to have a child. I won't delve deeper on that subject, because I'm not competent enough on this.

This tired bullshit again. It's never the father's fault, is it? You do realise that men don't openly advertise the fact they're scumbags to women, right, and that women aren't psychic?

The actual cause of single motherhood, when war or genocide are not factors, are deadbeat dads. Plenty of men presented themselves as being decent then started drinking/abusing drugs/cheating and/or got violent, etc., AFTER the kids were born. That's not forgetting women who were used by gay men and trapped into sham marriages only to be dumped when their husbands came out of the closet.

 

[cream pie]

Not sure on the specific question about war widows, but I have seen males that were raised by only women come out in varying ways. Sometimes they are very intelligent and patient, strong dudes (I would assume their mother was an actual badass and stepped up to the plate) and sometimes they turn out like the most pathetic little bitches of all time.

The issue with masculinity in the modern world is about lack of opportunity for role fulfillment; society is currently stagnant so there's nothing for men to challenge and overcome

That is pretty funny coming from someone who is triggered by internet trannies

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

Two things are true:

1. War has existed throughout the entire course of human history.
2. Mothers have raised the children they grew, birthed and breastfed, like every other species on this planet, since the dawn of humanity. Men played absolutely no significant role in childcare for thousands and thousands of years. It was always the mother, or the second wife, a sister, an eldest daughter, or a nursemaid, et al., but it was always a female. It is only in the last 40 years we have seen white men (and it's not all men) taking slightly more of an active role in childcare and blaming mothers for all of societies ills..

Then you act shocked SHOCKED that women no longer see the point in motherhood.

 

[Sanity]

This tired bullshit again. It's never the father's fault, is it? You do realise that men don't openly advertise the fact they're scumbags to women, right, and that women aren't psychic?

The actual cause of single motherhood, when war or genocide are not factors, are deadbeat dads. Plenty of men presented themselves as being decent then started drinking/abusing drugs/cheating and/or got violent, etc., AFTER the kids were born. That's not forgetting women who were used by gay men and trapped into sham marriages only to be dumped when their husbands came out of the closet.

I should have had precised that when I was talking about single mothers, I was reffering to this day single mothers, not the ones 80+ years ago when there were war widows around in the west. My bad, I was being ethnocentric.
In our times you're not rushed to marry if you want to get intimate and share a roof with a man, so you have more time to get insights to who they really are. I'm tired of considering single mothers as the everlasting victims when their kids are way more likely to get abused, sexually even, by their partners. That doesn't mean I excuse shitty men either.

Then you act shocked SHOCKED that women no longer see the point in motherhood.

Most women do outside of online feminist spaces. Humans want to reproduce, it's a biologically driven instinct.

 

[Felis Meanis]

This tired bullshit again. It's never the father's fault, is it? You do realise that men don't openly advertise the fact they're scumbags to women, right, and that women aren't psychic?

The actual cause of single motherhood, when war or genocide are not factors, are deadbeat dads. Plenty of men presented themselves as being decent then started drinking/abusing drugs/cheating and/or got violent, etc., AFTER the kids were born. That's not forgetting women who were used by gay men and trapped into sham marriages only to be dumped when their husbands came out of the closet.

Talk about womanly histrionism in its finest form.

The great late Norm MacDonald had brilliant insight into the nature of women.

Imagine a man of yore, working 16 hours each day, sometimes more, through excruciatingly harsh labor in order to provide for his family, only to be greeted at the doorstep, tired and ragged, of his otherwise welcoming home, by the unhinged woman who unfortunately shouldered the responsibility of trivial house work and making sure the children were safe, both objectives she decidedly failed at by virtue of being a self-entitled harpy with delusions of grandeur and self-worth. In order to alleviate her nagging inner insecurities, she constantly threw hissyfits at the man of the household, and menstruated wherever she so pleased. The man should be grateful. He is, after all, given audience with the brave and strong woman of the household, who is totally as competent as any man. Indeed, her future offspring would make sure her good name live on in spirit, by whoring themselves out on social media and otherwise bitch and moan about the dangers of gay men and men who wear skirts and wigs. The finest of the human race will endure.

That Wuornos' genetical heritage was allowed to persevere throughout the ages should be seen as peak comedy gold befitting Clown World.