Do you get more female attraction as a man if you are a little mean with them?

[Garamok]

nigga did you read my post, I didnt say to call women slurs or attack attack them I said "a little mean" not commit holocaust on them

If you're a normal functioning human, you can easily figure out yourself if you can joke around with a woman or not. You don't need a maintenance manual or a debug guide, you just have to leave your basement once in a while. The friendzone shit is such a cope. Being nice doesn't make you boring to a woman. Being slightly mean doesn't make you more fuckable. If you can't get female attraction by being normal, then it sounds like something is inherently wrong with you.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

What does "being a dick" actually mean to you all? Or being "a little mean"? I tease, but I don't feel like it's being a dick.

One problem I see with this is that it's presumed that the person who wants to be nice is being inauthentic. A Nice Guy (TM). What if you're not mean because you don't come by it naturally? Putting on the meanness is the act, then.

 

[Garamok]

One problem I see with this is that it's presumed that the person who wants to be nice is being inauthentic. A Nice Guy (TM). What if you're not mean because you don't come by it naturally? Putting on the meanness is the act, then.

The issues is that moids don't realise that women can tell the difference between a guy being genuinely good and nice and a guy who says he's a nice guy but is just another creep. Wouldn't be surprised if OP is the latter. A normal social human knows when and who to tease and then it's never malicious, and women will be teasing back and have friendly fun. Since we're on the internet and male kiwis are either moids, gay or trannies, OP has definitely malicious moid intentions or is upset that the women he awkwardly tries to approach are repulsed by him and isn't immediately giggling like a 14 year old school girl swooning for her highschool crush.

Guys who are genuinely good and nice are never in the friendzone. That's something moids will never be able to understand and achieve.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Treat them mean keep them keen.

I hate to say it but some of the fundamental PUA shit has a kernel of truth to it. Being a mat will dry up pussy but if you have confidence and maintain a bit of a aloof attitude it goes along way. Doesn't mean beat them and destroy them mentally though.

Its why I'm so glad I'm done with all the dating scene shit. Its all mind game garbage.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The issues is that moids don't realise that women can tell the difference between a guy being genuinely good and nice and a guy who says he's a nice guy but is just another creep. Wouldn't be surprised if OP is the latter. A normal social human knows when and who to tease and then it's never malicious, and women will be teasing back and have friendly fun. Since we're on the internet and male kiwis are either moids, gay or trannies, OP has definitely malicious moid intentions or is upset that the women he awkwardly tries to approach are repulsed by him and isn't immediately giggling like a 14 year old school girl swooning for her highschool crush.

Guys who are genuinely good and nice are never in the friendzone. That's something moids will never be able to understand and achieve.

I think physical attractiveness can outweigh the Nice Guy (TM) problem too. I know a guy who is a Nice Guy, not with women in particular but everyone. Two-faced rat of a person and very anxious (drops his guard sometimes), even comes in on the short side. But he keeps himself physically fit, presents himself very professionally/successful, is a practiced smooth talker. Big thing I've noticed is that he bombs people with compliments. Isn't mean, isn't honest either (but keeps it well hidden), but he does well with women.

 

[Garamok]

I think physical attractiveness can outweigh the Nice Guy (TM) problem too. I know a guy who is a Nice Guy, not with women in particular but everyone. Two-faced rat of a person and very anxious (drops his guard sometimes), even comes in on the short side. But he keeps himself physically fit, presents himself very professionally/successful, is a practiced smooth talker. Big thing I've noticed is that he bombs people with compliments. Isn't mean, isn't honest either (but keeps it well hidden), but he does well with women.

Physical attraction is an issue for both equally. Men just love playing victim and complain. Then more moids come together and whine in a circle. Ugly moids want a smoking hot woman and will treat any woman not living up to their standards like shit. They can't cope with the fact that no matter how they behave, the young, attractive woman from the apartment on the 4th floor won't fuck them, no matter what. They turn to blame it on women. They could have worked on their personality and have realistic standards but that is hurting their extremely inflated ego. The only thing left for them is to become a raging moid. See the posts in this thread here.

Of course, if a guy is attractive he has it easier. Same goes for women. I would throw in though that attractive women with shitty personality still get moids like Irish Turtle on a weekly basis sexually harassing them when they answer his fake nice-and-mean-act with a smile. With male kiwis and any of their orbiters it's hard to become friends when you're a woman. It's super easy with normal men and have funny conversations. But kiwi-men are radioactive.

I've seen guys being with women who looked like they're out of their league. And they got her by being a good and down to earth human, not a single PUA line needed, not a single thought of "I have to be mean to get her to like me". He's good and kind to her, they're happily married, have been together for over 12 years now, and even have a daughter now. The moids in this thread are either fake nice or genuinely creeps and no woman wants that trash.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

And they got her by being a good and down to earth human, not a single PUA line needed, not a single thought of "I have to be mean to get her to like me". He's good and kind to her, they're happily married

That doesn't work like that around here. I used to be nice to women in my younger years and it got me nowhere, I hit a rough patch, became an arsehole to everyone and never had so much female attention. Then I cleaned up and start being nice again and guess what?

I'm not socially inept or a retard IRL and I do attribute my situation now to the fact that society has changed, but the pattern recognition is plain to see out on the streets; the chavvy, jobless, violent scruffs get the decent women and the decent lads get the fatties.

Such is life.

 

[Garamok]

That doesn't work like that around here. I used to be nice to women in my younger years and it got me nowhere, I hit a rough patch, became an arsehole to everyone and never had so much female attention. Then I cleaned up and start being nice again and guess what?

I'm not socially inept or a retard IRL and I do attribute my situation now to the fact that society has changed, but the pattern recognition is plain to see out on the streets; the chavvy, jobless, violent scruffs get the decent women and the decent lads get the fatties.

Such is life.

Maybe that's an American culture thing. Because I see ugly teenage boys dating girls out of their league, I see ugly men in relationships with good looking women, because they're good people.

Usually, violent and jobless retards take advantage of women who have issues with their self esteem and self worth. They won't leave the guy because they're scared or they think they won't find love and will be alone forever, so they stick with a guy who treats them like shit.

Judging from my friend circle and from what I see at work, looks don't matter much to women. They just want a guy who's on the same page as them on a personal level and who isn't just chasing a goal in his head when he spends time with her. While women look for things like "can I talk with him openly?, "do we have same interests?", "what does he want from life?", many of the guys think "sex now" and don't care about becoming friends before becoming intimate partners.

 

[JamusActimus]

It mostly depends on your look.

If you look like a blob being mean will be read as you being a creepy ashole no matter the quality of your banter.

On my end I try to act just how I want/feel to. I think actively thinking about being nice/mean is retarded. Also I try to treat women the same way as a treat men. Mostly because I hate men who radically change their behavior when women are involved.

 

[Garamok]

It mostly depends on your look.

If you look like a blob being mean will be read as you being a creepy ashole no matter the quality of your banter.

Depends on the woman. Men will only treat a woman with respect if she is skinny and puts a lot of effort into her looks. It doesn't matter to them that she's dumb as a brick. Sex is all that matters.

Maybe trying to score a hot woman without having anything of value to contribute isn't the smartest thing to do.

violent scruffs get the decent women and the decent lads get the fatties.

I think this part serves as another great example that men always care about looks. None of you guys care about if those "decent women" are actually any good. Maybe those decent women with scruffy guys can't even cook or clean, probably says nothing of value all day. But it seems like Americans prefer beautiful dumb bricks as long as they can have sex like Johnny Sins.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

The easiest way to get a woman is to tell them your Kiwi Farms reaction score!

 

[Spill]

Well what you're talking about is mild teasing, and I do think it can make women interested in you, because mild teasing can very easily turn into flirting in my experience, its like building a bridge into more flirtatious territory.

 

[JamusActimus]

Guys who are genuinely good and nice are never in the friendzone. That's something moids will never be able to understand and achieve.

What a blue pill. The friend zone does exist it's a way for women to get a use of undesirable men while dangling the possibility of a relationship as an incentive.

If you get friendzoned you're not nice and good enough

How retarded

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Usually, violent and jobless retards take advantage of women who have issues with their self esteem and self worth.

That's a fair point.

I think this part serves as another great example that men always care about looks. None of you guys care about if those "decent women" are actually any good. Maybe those decent women with scruffy guys can't even cook or clean, probably says nothing of value all day.

This is retarded. If I went to a part of this forum where women bitch about other women, how many comments would be about weight? We both know it would be higher than bob Marley on payday.

But it seems like Americans prefer beautiful dumb bricks as long as they can have sex like Johnny Sins.

I'm not American and different strokes for different folks. Some blokes want women that look good, fuck good and keep quiet.

The easiest way to get a woman is to tell them your Kiwi Farms reaction score!

This used to be my chat-up line. I haven't been laid since march! Damn you! NUUUUUULLLLLLLLL

 

[Garamok]

What a blue pill. The friend zone does exist it's a way for women to get a use of undesirable men while dangling the possibility of a relationship as an incentive.

If you get friendzoned you're not nice and good enough

How retarded

Congratulations on your incel mindset. Women don't have to suck your dick just because you're pretending to be nice to them they don't owe you anything. It's always baffling how entitled men can be and then with the same breath they complain about women who they deem undesirable who are interested in them and they don't want those women to flirt with them.

 

[Garamok]

Some blokes want women that look good, fuck good and keep quiet.

Same goes for men, some should just stfu and keep quiet. But for some reason, like here, they keel kvetching.

 

[Grub]

That doesn't work like that around here. I used to be nice to women in my younger years and it got me nowhere, I hit a rough patch, became an arsehole to everyone and never had so much female attention.

I didn't have a car for a few years when I was living in the city so I was bussing to work every day. I fucking hated it. The bus was through a somewhat rough area and on the route to a prison so a lot of the people on there at various times were kind of skiddish. I got pretty rude and hostile to a lot of the people on there over those years. Helped break up a fight once that ended up with cops showing up. Almost ended up getting into a fight with a group of pajeets. Generally though, I was polite and respectful to the normal people on the bus. But the second anyone started fucking around or being rude or obnoxious I just didn't give a fuck and would go off. I definitely caused a lot of uncomfortable silences and awkward stares over the years and I'm probably lucky I never got stabbed or killed over some of the shit I did.

But, I don't think I've ever gotten more attention from women in my life than that time. I'd get random women starting conversations with me, coming to sit down next to me on the bus, even when there were other empty seats, there was an older lady who became one of my bus friends who would come chat with me whenever she was on the bus about her grandkids and shit like that. I'm married so I never went for anyone but fuck I could have easily. I remember this one Asian chick would try and sit next to me every time she was on the bus. Every time she'd look at me she'd blush like bright red and smile. Would spend the whole bus ride rubbing her leg against mine. She never really said anything. Would just come over and sit down next to me as close as possible and press her leg into mine.

And like, I looked like a filthy fucking scrub during that time. Dirty work clothes all the time, I barely shaved, I chain smoked cigarettes, was usually hungover. I was in good shape though but I regularly looked like what I figure would not be very physically appealing in the slightest.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Same goes for men, some should just stfu and keep quiet. But for some reason, like here, they keel kvetching.

We get it, you're a fat, fuckless dyke who hates men. Give it a fucking rest already. Jesus, I'm sick of hearing fucking women on this site complain about men while being insufferable cunts. Moid this, no life that, nobody gives a fuck.

Put forward rational points of view and experiences without the feminist bitching and I'll listen to what you've got to say. Until then, take your period energy into the kitchen and do some cleaning.

 

[JamusActimus]

Congratulations on your incel mindset. Women don't have to suck your dick just because you're nice to them they don't owe you anything. It's always baffling how entitled men can be and then with the same breath they complain about women who they deem undesirable who are interested in them and they don't want those women to flirt with them.

Not sure how you manage to contradict yourself that quickly

Guys who are genuinely good and nice are never in the friendzone. That's something moids will never be able to understand and achieve.

-Being nice and good guarantees you're not in the friendzone
-Being nice and good will not make women like you, you're not entitled to anything

Choose one

 

[74164978231]

Women only like lap dogs when theyre literal dogs.

Problem is so many of them cant tell the difference between an asshole and a man who isnt a doormat.