Do you support Hate Speech laws if you are protected by them?

[RIPhamroll]

They want it when it's a step up. Outside of that? CELEBRATE YOUR DIFFERENCES! (And stay in your fucking box.) The trait of being self-serving is not a bug in our programming, and I don't think it's any sort of accident that we are not a direct democracy.

Yeah that's probably a better way to put it. That I feel it's me with the bugged programming for having this moral qualm with exploiting people's empathy.
How can someone genuinely even accept it? To not be rewarded for their own efforts? To have people treat them differently for WHAT they are and not WHO they are or what they did.

Another part is having it placed on you by society vs seeking it out. I can understand relegating oneself to a free cookie when it's imposed rather than making a fuss. But actively persuing hand outs like one of the probably made up strawmen on r/beggers or whatever?

 

[The Pink Panther]

The OP is a fucking asshole. Ok, so you wanna use your 'tism to get "special treatment" to reap the benefits because of identity politics.

Fuck off, you selfish faggot. Maza would fit in nicely with your herd.

 

[Stranger Neighbors]

I mean't that you can't have an intellectual conversion when some mindless ruffian is bullying you.

Way to answer my questions and address my points bud.

People are being pretty reasonable and engaging with you yet you aren't addressing arguments properly or seem unable to read the entirety of what people are saying.

you seem to not grasp where you are in the internet.

you guys legit make me laugh hahaha @Varg Did Nothing Wrong I've been lurking for longer than most accounts have existed.

You say you've lurked for years and yet you pose a question that really seems antithetical to the farms... so your claim of lurking for years really comes off as disingenuous. So not only are you coming here out of bad faith but you're lying and acting superior.

Either you are very poor bait or are being foolish. Either way it's bad form so I'm going to leave you now with a good luck and my final suggestion is to actually lurk more you might find you learn more by reading rather then posting

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[Webby's Boyfriend]

The OP is a fucking asshole. Ok, so you wanna use your 'tism to get "special treatment" to reap the benefits because of identity politics.

People with 'tism are bad at social interaction. Doesn't @NehrimAtFucksGiven fear that could cause hatespeech laws to turn against him and ruin his life? E.g. if he makes a typing error or phrases something badly?

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

Military veterans are a protected class and liberals find themselves in hot water because of it quite often. So yeah, I don't mind that.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I'm not the one making the laws just arguing that they protect lots of people, me

Doesn't matter, if you speak a truth outside of what those in power want to hear, what you say will be hate speech, protected class or not.

It might not quite be islam level of apostate hunting, but what do you expect will happen if you ever cross one of the sacred cows or change your mind about something after reading research? Don't you understand that they'll chuck you as happily as they chucked milo

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

Doesn't matter, if you speak a truth outside of what those in power want to hear, what you say will be hate speech, protected class or not.

Or what if his interests collide with those of another "protected group". In other postings, he said something against troons. Autists or trannies, who deserves more "protection"? That's the "underprivileged moral dilemma".

 

[Lemmingwise]

Or what if his interests collide with those of another "protected group". In other postings, he said something against troons. Autists or trannies, who deserves more "protection"? That's the "underprivileged moral dilemma".

The imperative isn't protective groups, though, the imperative is to have an excuse to push through agendas. Protective groups are just a means to an end. They're kinda like the divide and conquer in africa in colonial times, where you pick one tribe to elevate. Except you do it by claiming they're actually oppressed and lower on the hierarchy, which allows you to get away with it more.

 

[Fibonacci]

Being a faggoty old chinaman with bad teeth and no lower extremities, I assume that I am therefore considered multiple "protected classes". I'm all for Hate Crime laws within the bounds of reason, but fuck Hate Speech laws. If Hate Crime laws are the dish sponge that wipes legitimate targeted crime off our plate, Hate Speech laws are the pumice that scrapes through the integrity of the porcelain and causes the fine china of freedom to crack into a billion billion pieces of oppression.

 

[nonvir_1984]

How am I protected by them? I'm white. I'm male. I'm middle class. I'm hetro. I'm guilty. I have to find the crime, apart from the aforementioned.
I'm the very people hate speech laws are aimed at fucking over. Only thin skinned unimaginative cowards want hate speech laws 'cause they can't fire enough neurons to engage in clever repartee.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I think if anything Hate Speech Laws encourage more racism. You create the sentiment that your word has power.

I dream of a world where the White Supremacist and the Black Supremacist gets to stand peacefully and yell off their insane rantings while I stand there and laugh my ass off at their exceptionalism.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

I'm for free speech over everything else.

Your always going to get some sped who spouts shit out of their mouth for no reason like a tourettes kid at a disneyworld. That's just life. But a lot of people who spout obscene shit, do it for fun, to trigger, and a myriad of other reasons outside of actual hatred.

You know what does cause hatred though? Getting the government to recognise you as a "protected class" and preventing any criticism of you or your group, because your a bunch of snowflakes.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

I'm for free speech over everything else.

Your always going to get some sped who spouts shit out of their mouth for no reason like a tourettes kid at a disneyworld. That's just life. But a lot of people who spout obscene shit, do it for fun, to trigger, and a myriad of other reasons outside of actual hatred.

You know what does cause hatred though? Getting the government to recognise you as a "protected class" and preventing any criticism of you or your group, because your a bunch of snowflakes.

Any time you go from saying "Hey, that's not cool, knock it off" to getting the government to put its jackboot on people's necks, you deserve to be hated.

 

[yourfinancials]

No. Why? Because the protected class is a diversion. Once censorship takes complete hold is when pointing out disasters such as bhopal disaster or that bp oil leak gets considered hate speech.

It doesn't take long for those in power (such as police) to deem journalists revealing to the public brutality against protected class as a hate crime or "alt right" when censorship is the norm.

In short the protected class becomes the victim of the very systems which declare them protected in the first place