Do you tip?

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My mom was a waitress for nearly my entire childhood, and I worked for minimum wage as a hairdresser in a mall, so yeah. I know how shitty it is to not get tipped, and I make sure to give them something (unless the service was really bad, in which case I leave nothing). I typically give 15-20%, more if the service was really exceptional. I give the pizza delivery guy $2-3, and I'll give the Chinese takeout place $1-2 just cos they're always so nice to me in there.
 
I usually tip unless I get fantastically shitty service.
I know servers typically aren't paid so great, but if you can't do your job well and can't take it seriously, you should get paid accordingly. Just my two cents.
 
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Because tipping is so widespread and consistent, it's not really something that increases your service, so much as ensures your service doesn't go to shit.
If that were the case then wouldn't it have to come before the service rather than after it. Tipping can have no causal relation with the quality of service under this.
 
If that were the case then wouldn't it have to come before the service rather than after it. Tipping can have no causal relation with the quality of service under this.
By that line of thinking, the risk of incarceration can't influence someone's behavior because jailing comes after the crime has already happened.

Tipping (or rather, losing a tip) is a punitive measure. Waitstaff act consistently good because if they don't, they risk customers getting pissy and leaving small tips.
 
Tipping (or rather, losing a tip) is a punitive measure. Waitstaff act consistently good because if they don't, they risk customers getting pissy and leaving small tips.
But the empirical data suggests completely otherwise as I cited earlier
 
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But the empirical data suggests completely otherwise as I cited earlier
The empirical data you cited showed huge boosts in tips from good service.
It’s instructive to consider the sort of things that tippers actually respond to. In one study, a waitress received fifty per cent more in tips when she introduced herself by name than when she didn’t. In another, waiters sharply increased their tips by giving each member of a dining party a piece of candy and then, seemingly spontaneously, offering each person a second piece, too. Squatting by the table instead of standing, writing “Thank you” on the back of checks, and touching customers on their shoulders all measurably improved tips. And waitresses at an upscale restaurant who simply put flowers in their hair boosted their tips by seventeen per cent.
 
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I usually tip unless I get fantastically shitty service.
I know servers typically aren't paid so great, but if you can't do your job well and can't take it seriously, you should get paid accordingly. Just my two cents.

That's my general reasoning. I reserve no tip for when the waiter not only did a terrible job but it almost amounted to being deliberately bad.
 
Around here, in most situations tipping would be seen as condescending or as a way to brag about your wealth. Bars are pretty much the only place where people at least sometimes give tips (because cultural rules change when you're drunk).

I do find this whole concept fascinating. Hardworking people don't earn enough to make ends meet and it's not the fault of the employer, no, you, the customer, are to blame and you're a dick if you don't make it right immediately.
 
I do find this whole concept fascinating. Hardworking people don't earn enough to make ends meet and it's not the fault of the employer, no, you, the customer, are to blame and you're a dick if you don't make it right immediately.

When part of their pay depends on how satisfied the customer is, they have an incentive to give good service. Getting paid whether or not they give shit service leads to rude, indifferent service.
 
Around here, in most situations tipping would be seen as condescending or as a way to brag about your wealth. Bars are pretty much the only place where people at least sometimes give tips (because cultural rules change when you're drunk).

I do find this whole concept fascinating. Hardworking people don't earn enough to make ends meet and it's not the fault of the employer, no, you, the customer, are to blame and you're a dick if you don't make it right immediately.

Over here it's the exact opposite. If you're getting a decent expat salary and have any idea how much locals get paid, you'd have to be an awful, awful cunt not to tip.
I only refuse to tip when I get really, really bad service.
 
When part of their pay depends on how satisfied the customer is, they have an incentive to give good service. Getting paid whether or not they give shit service leads to rude, indifferent service.
Point taken but I still prefer the employer keeping an eye out to check that people do their work like they should. The rude and lazy get laid off, the one's who do their work don't have to worry about whether or not they get enough tips to supplement their pay.
 
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Point taken but I still prefer the employer keeping an eye out to check that people do their work like they should. The rude and lazy get laid off, the one's who do their work don't have to worry about whether or not they get enough tips to supplement their pay.
I don't think that's a huge issue.

The waitstaff are going to get paid acceptably regardless. Your meal is going to cost the same regardless. Tipping just moves part of that cost from being uniformly distributed through the employer, regardless of service quality, to being distributed directly based on the service provided.

Employers can't react quickly to poor service. The manager of a restaurant isn't going to fire someone just for being bitchy once. But with tipping, displeasure at being bitchy gets expressed immediately.

Another thing to keep in mind is that waitstaff have to earn minimum wage with their tips, or their employer is required to make up the difference. On average, tipped employees end up making a solid chunk more than the minimum wage.

I guess I don't see a problem with tipping mostly because in my experience, failing to tip is such a strange outlier that I don't see it as a huge deal. I mean, I know it happens occasionally, but I can't imagine it being a serious enough problem to cause someone to fail to make rent. When I hear a story about someone leaving a shitty tip, everyone gasps and the room goes silent (not really). It's a pretty ingrained social habit.

Heh, like once I specifically gave a bartender no tip. To be fair, I was totally trashed and I don't remember what, but something she did pissed me off. So I left a big $0.00 tip. My roommate was so very pissed at me, because he hangs out at all the bars, everyone knows him by name, and so now everyone knows that his roommate was being bitchy to a bartender. So later I went over and apologized.
 
Yes. I worked as waitstaff before so I have an idea of what they go through.

15%~20% is what I usually pay at a restaurant.
Pizza is $3 plus letting them keep the change.
Change I don't want to carry goes into the tip jars.
Cute waitresses get extra.
 
sure, I tip. I would make an exception if the waiter/waitress was notably terrible to me. Like basically they would have to be TRYING to piss me off. But everyone has a shitty day, so if it seems like it's something out of their hands/ bad luck/whatever I don't let it affect the tip.

That being said, that has never happened to me. I've never had such a bad experience with a server that I didn't give a tip. I'm just saying, it could happen if my server was being a dick to me for no good reason
 
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That being said, that has never happened to me. I've never had such a bad experience with a server that I didn't give a tip. I'm just saying, it could happen if my server was being a dick to me for no good reason

I've eaten out for decades and had a few years where it was basically daily and only twice deliberately didn't leave a tip. And only once left a deliberate insult tip that consisted of throwing a few pennies and nickels into a cup of ice water, then up-ending it on the table so they'd have to take it off to get to them and it would spill everywhere.
 
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