Documents related to Ghislaine Maxwell's dealings with Jeffrey Epstein have been released - see if your favorite famous person is on "the list"

So drumpf is not on it? By the reddit headlines seems like it

Wasn't he confirmed as on Epstein's plane at least once, yet he isn't on that list? Makes me a bit suspicious that this is accurate.

And yes, I know Bill Clinton is on the list. I am sure he was involved, too. Everyone involved in the kid fucking, Clinton included, should be brought to justice.
 
If the glowies were going to do that they should do it in Texas. Have the underage child claim they're 18 verbally but then prosecute anyway because TX law doesn't care. This might have happened to Cody Wilson.

The law doesn't care anywhere. Unless there's a state or two I don't know about, it doesn't matter how it happens, if your dick ends up in an underage girl, you're guilty. That's even if she not only lied about her age but even presented fake ID.
 
If he was really a Mossad or other intel agent set up to gather kompromat he wouldn't just focus on pedophiles, just anyone who could be enticed. Throw a "normal" party and suddenly the dude finds himself alone in a room with a 14 year old sucking his dick.
Right, but you still need your routine activities to be innocent, and you need people who can testify convincingly you are what you say you are. And blackmail is a tricky recruitment tool because it breeds resentment in your agent. For all the attention it is given, it's not very common:
Coercion was used to recruit spies most often in the early period before 1980, when
foreign intelligence services engaged in occasional blackmail using relatives
overseas, or entrapped Americans in sexual blackmail scams. No instances of
coercion as a sole or primary motive appear after 1979.

The problem with blackmail is that you can never actually release criminal blackmail material, not while the agent is alive. It renders the agent useless in the future, and incentivizes them to disclose the spying to get a deal from the prosecutor. He'll give up any other agents he knows, how you communicate, where you met, what you requested and what he passed, etc. Then they'll double him, you'll go to jail, or you'll get PNGed. And anything he disclosed or influenced will be put under a microscope. You've turned an intelligence asset into a counterintelligence disaster.

There may be cases where the gains outweigh the risks. Clinton, for example, has all the money he needs, has no ideology, and has enough people stroking his ego. Compromise would be the only way to turn him. But you'd get malicious compliance, while he tried to hurt you in secret. Or you could throw some money at his advisors, and they'd produce willingly because they want more money and you're the money man.

And I consider myself a pretty normal dude, but I've never been to a party where I go into a room and suddenly my dick is being sucked. Usually it's in my pants and I have some say on whether it's coming out.
 
Wasn't he confirmed as on Epstein's plane at least once, yet he isn't on that list? Makes me a bit suspicious that this is accurate.

And yes, I know Bill Clinton is on the list. I am sure he was involved, too. Everyone involved in the kid fucking, Clinton included, should be brought to justice.
No. Trump has never been confirmed as being on the Lolita Express.(The plane that went to pedo island).

He was confirmed as hitching a ride from florida to NY/NJ in a separate plane not the Lolita express.
 
The law doesn't care anywhere. Unless there's a state or two I don't know about, it doesn't matter how it happens, if your dick ends up in an underage girl, you're guilty. That's even if she not only lied about her age but even presented fake ID.
Yep, it's been known to happen where people will take someone home from the bar (that used a fake ID) and it turns out they were underaged. Pretty shitty that happens and they get in trouble for it
 
Yep, it's been known to happen where people will take someone home from the bar (that used a fake ID) and it turns out they were underaged. Pretty shitty that happens and they get in trouble for it
I would hope that no judge is fucked up enough to allow that defense to work at this point, with anyone tied to the Epstein case. Wouldn't make sense to me. "Didn't know the crying girls in the basement were actually underage slaves, your honor, she totally showed me her ID!"
 
Yep, it's been known to happen where people will take someone home from the bar (that used a fake ID) and it turns out they were underaged. Pretty shitty that happens and they get in trouble for it

It's a strong incentive not to be stupid about where you stick your dick.
 
As if it couldn't get worse. Turns out the pedophiles were RACIST!



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Look at the dates. At the time Epstein received his plea deal, the FBI hadn't even finished interviewing all of the witnesses, and that infamous picture of Prince Andrew with Ghislaine Maxwell and the victim being interviewed was in the FBI's possession as of 2011, and they still didn't do anything. So if Epstein was supposedly an informant, and he supposedly cooperated for a plea deal to help the FBI... What was the plea deal for if nobody got arrested afterwards? Why did they completely ignore what Epstein was doing for more than a decade and go after incredibly minor fish instead of taking out the head(s) of the trafficking ring?

Why did Mueller's FBI do this?
I can't help but feel like this is all leading up to something big.

Something that will involve Obama.
 
So is it good that this has finally come out in a big way?
Or is it bad that it hadn't happened before?
:thinking:
Both. Its great that people can see the elites as the scum they are. But the damage is already done. The people abused probably need years of therapy if they haven't killed themselves yet or got clinton'd. The media still protects the abusers and will slander the victims.
 
So is it good that this has finally come out in a big way?
Or is it bad that it hadn't happened before?
It's as good as it will get... for now. What scares me is there are most likely many more rich sex traffickers out there that haven't been caught.

It's been a bizarre, dirty, open secret of the elites for centuries, that many of them can and will commit heinous crime (like sex trafficking/pedophilia) and get away with it because no one can really stop them. It's usually been written off as conspiracy or rumor. This scandal has really been a long time coming.

What horrifies me is how many decades back this behavior goes, there are more than a few whistleblowers who are getting a second wind after being shut up in the past and called crazies. Of course, the general population is also full of people who idiotically believe that the famous/elite people whom they personally like couldn't do wrong, because they only think of dirty, scummy, uneducated people as being capable of crime. They forget intelligent sociopaths exist. Even people who aren't that powerful, but powerful enough to control the local police or media in some way, could do such things. Sex trafficking is an ugly business but more common than people want to believe.
 
The frustrating thing is that this information on Epstein was available in 2011. They had him in front of a court.
And because he had money and influence, he was let off with a slap on the wrist.
Edit to add
Rather than doing a through investigation at that time and getting all this stuff out in the open then.
Justice is meant to be blind, not based on what you can pay.
 
The frustrating thing is that this information on Epstein was available in 2011. They had him in front of a court.
And because he had money and influence, he was let off with a slap on the wrist.
Edit to add
Rather than doing a through investigation at that time and getting all this stuff out in the open then.
Justice is meant to be blind, not based on what you can pay.
Just throw the whole system out, shit is corrupt.
 
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