Documents related to Ghislaine Maxwell's dealings with Jeffrey Epstein have been released - see if your favorite famous person is on "the list"

See, Will Smith is one of the "dummies" I talked about above. Not actual dummies (well, yes, but...) but their main purpose is to distract from the real players. If it were JUST the ones that everyone suspected of being deviants it would be disastrous to all the rich & famous involved, but if you include more people, it helps to create a convincing story. The way I see it, Epstein involved a bunch of people up there to just have parties...great food (haute cuisine & the usual crowd-pleasers), expensive alcohol, probably some decent music too.

Those people aren't present when the "fun" starts that involves the nastier stuff (where a few people probably slipped out during the peak of all of it), and then all the celebrities come home and talk about how Epstein was a great if eccentric host and it's just harmless parties. BAM! Instant cover story, enough witnesses to corroborate that nothing awful was going on behind the scenes, and even if an actor was kidnapped and information forcibly extracted...they really don't know anything and had no knowledge of anything illegal (besides drug use, which happens at most parties anyway).

Of course, it's all just a theory, but I find it pretty unlikely that every single person involved had some sort of hebephilia fetish that needed to be resolved there.

I actually agree with you that many of the celebrities were very likely easy fronts/distractions, because the more people you involve, the riskier the operation becomes. It would make sense that Epstein would only let a close, carefully selected inner circle in after vetting them. He also had to keep track of everyone he trafficked girls to, because he built up blackmail cases against each of them should he ever need them. Letting it be a free-for-all would've probably outed him a lot sooner.

Not to mention that having more famous people out there who love to blab to the media insist Epstein that is "good guy" who throws fun normie rich parties didn't hurt his reputation.

I also think there were A LOT of people who saw shit but said nothing or convinced themselves they didn't see it, much like the witnesses in the documentary who kept their heads down. Much like hundreds did with Harvey Weinstein.
 
Hollywood Producer John Paul Rice Speaks out against Child Trafficking




This was an interesting watch/listen. I'm skeptical but it seems plausible. He makes some powerful points.

The devil is in the detail with all the Maxwell/Epstein stuff. I've actually researched it quite a bit and spent far more hours on it than I care to mention. There are thousands of pages to get through. You need certain skills of being able to search and bookmark. Not everyone has them. You also need time and patience. I found some amazing shit in there, but no one seems interested. They just want easy bite-sized chunks to digest and get outraged over. It's a lot more nuanced than that.

I've spent a few more hours going through the latest releases. But really, there isn't a whole lot in there that hasn't already been covered if you went through the earlier documents in detail. Putting your searching skills to good use, anyway. Lots of redundancy in both those earlier and later documents. Many of them need to be eyeballed because they are scanned and have not been OCR'd for ctrl+f ability. A certain amount of luck is needed, and when you hit a major vein, you need to be able to bookmark to restore later. Some said that you could see the redacted parts, but that was only for a very few of the documents. That trick didn't work for the vast majority of it. I'm also curious how the person who put that out there knew that. And if they knew that why didn't they know the rest of the documents would not be susceptible to that trick. That seemed like a setup in itself and what was gleaned by doing that trick was something that (((they))) wanted you to know. Very fishy.

Something major is up with this whole story. It's extremely fucky. But just know you are being played. No one in a position of power is going to jail over this. They won't even be named. Clintons were briefly mentioned but nada in the news. Of course. Still, it has been interesting joining the dots and getting a few confirmations about old gossip that has been flying around for a while. Knowing people who know people, who know people, I can say that a lot of this is based on fact and it's not just made up BS. The thing is, the whole story is nowhere close to being told. I don't want to spend anymore time on it. I'm satisfied this is all a dead end. It's just a circus.

What is already known should be enough for front page news, and for people to be screaming from the rooftops. But we are in an overload situation what with the WuFlu, Communist insurrection and just most people losing their fucking minds over no shit at all. So many major questions not even being asked, let alone not answered. The media has turned it all in to a titillating peep show for the public to vicariously get off on.

Anyway, either Epstein was murdered or he's on one of his islands sipping margheuritas still getting sucked off by under age girls. Either way, it's just fucking madness to think they can pull this shit and get away with it. But they do like rubbing our noses in it. Anyone who has taken this case seriously will feel the frustration of it all. It's like banging your head in to a wall.

Just know that this is not a big deal. No one cares. No one of any note goes to prison over this. So many strands. So little investigative journalism being done on this. Make note of how Spacey got off. Those weird little videos he did. Goading. Cocky. Yet instead of being hammered, he got let off. There must have been a message in there somewhere that made someone pull some strings.

But there are many famous people in those court documents. Proven. And not many people have picked up on them. Forget about the flight manifests, they are a red herring, pretty much. The court documents with corroborated statements by several disparate witnesses is where it's at. There's enough there to feed the nightly news for several months. But they won't touch it with a bargepole.

You have to go really 'meta' with this case. You have to drill deep, but then you have to step back and get perspective. Rinse, repeat. And then you have to take two steps back even further and just ask the obvious question of 'why?', 'why now?', when he would have got away with it as well, if it only wasn't for those pesky kids!

Epstein did get away with it. But someone dug him up again. This is very reminiscent of the whole Trump debacle of internecine squabbling by hidden and dark factions, playing their hands, then going back undercover when exposed to too much light.

There is a war on for your mind. For your attention. For your feelings and emotions.

But behind the scenes, there really is some kind of major struggle and power play taking place that would make GoT look meek and mild. And no one really knows much about that.

Don't get too caught up on this. It's a rabbit hole that is only meant to distract and it leads nowhere. The real action is elsewhere, where they don't want you to look. But it is linked. Very much so. Too close for comfort for many people.

This whole world needs a catharsis. A reckoning. It would be a lot easier on everyone's psyche if they just came out with the videos of Clinton (mr. and mrs.) raping those young kids and then lock them up and throw away the key. But that won't happen. Because it's a whole web of deceit and lies. You know how it goes.

This is why I linked that video at the beginning of this post. I think that guy might be trying to sell something, but he seems plausible, and just the plain words out of his mouth should count for something. I put this here because he mentions Maxwell several times.

I get the whole kiddy fucking thing. I really do. People with more money than sense. More power than they can handle. Sure.

But what I have a problem with is the whole child sacrifice thing. Torture I can understand. Defiling of innocence I can understand. Because I have 'theory of mind'. But the whole satanic murder of kids is just a touch too far for my credulity to entertain. Then again, maybe I'm naive. He makes a lot of claims in that video but doesn't back anything up. Same old pattern, same old song.

I'm sick and tired of this baiting bullshit. No names, no actions taken against those who have been named. Wild, implausible things being claimed with no backup. It's just a major distraction and not a very fruitful line of thought for anyone to go down.

This shit goes on. Of that I have no doubt. But the people who dabble in it really are too powerful, too big to fail. It's a mixture of rubbing peoples' noses in their impotence, and just generally headfucking the general population so they don't know which way is up - a form of gaslighiting, if you will.

Don't hold any hope for any big names to come out. Let alone them going to jail. Ain't gonna happen.

Meanwhile, the real sick fucks who really did torture kids to death like Dutroux in Belgium, and the shit that went on in France, in Portugal, in Spain, in Germany, well... all memory holed.

We have some extremely disturbed individuals in our midst. Some of them are even running the country. But it's the ones who are really running the country behind the scenes I would worry about more. Men like Dutroux are needed - child catchers, child imprisoners (kept in holding until a request is made for that 'type'), child murderers to dispose of evidence, but they don't run the show. His wife got away with it as well and was let out of prison after a short period of time, causing much consternation among many of the people in that country. See that mass million march of all those people wearing white. The hosing down of public institutions with white paint to denote a white wash. They were fucking pissed off. And the major politicians who were implicated got off scott free.

Anyway, have a look at that video. I think it has some merit.

As for Maxwell, there is no easy way out for her. I think it will probably be a 'short illness' or a 'wild card prisoner trying to make a name for themselves' that does for her. One thing is for sure. She won't get up and name names in a court of law. Deals will be done, and the circus will roll on to the next part of town... pulling in more gullible punters that believe that what they are seeing is some kind of justice...
 
Hollywood Producer John Paul Rice Speaks out against Child Trafficking




This was an interesting watch/listen. I'm skeptical but it seems plausible. He makes some powerful points.

The devil is in the detail with all the Maxwell/Epstein stuff. I've actually researched it quite a bit and spent far more hours on it than I care to mention. There are thousands of pages to get through. You need certain skills of being able to search and bookmark. Not everyone has them. You also need time and patience. I found some amazing shit in there, but no one seems interested. They just want easy bite-sized chunks to digest and get outraged over. It's a lot more nuanced than that.

I've spent a few more hours going through the latest releases. But really, there isn't a whole lot in there that hasn't already been covered if you went through the earlier documents in detail. Putting your searching skills to good use, anyway. Lots of redundancy in both those earlier and later documents. Many of them need to be eyeballed because they are scanned and have not been OCR'd for ctrl+f ability. A certain amount of luck is needed, and when you hit a major vein, you need to be able to bookmark to restore later. Some said that you could see the redacted parts, but that was only for a very few of the documents. That trick didn't work for the vast majority of it. I'm also curious how the person who put that out there knew that. And if they knew that why didn't they know the rest of the documents would not be susceptible to that trick. That seemed like a setup in itself and what was gleaned by doing that trick was something that (((they))) wanted you to know. Very fishy.

Something major is up with this whole story. It's extremely fucky. But just know you are being played. No one in a position of power is going to jail over this. They won't even be named. Clintons were briefly mentioned but nada in the news. Of course. Still, it has been interesting joining the dots and getting a few confirmations about old gossip that has been flying around for a while. Knowing people who know people, who know people, I can say that a lot of this is based on fact and it's not just made up BS. The thing is, the whole story is nowhere close to being told. I don't want to spend anymore time on it. I'm satisfied this is all a dead end. It's just a circus.

What is already known should be enough for front page news, and for people to be screaming from the rooftops. But we are in an overload situation what with the WuFlu, Communist insurrection and just most people losing their fucking minds over no shit at all. So many major questions not even being asked, let alone not answered. The media has turned it all in to a titillating peep show for the public to vicariously get off on.

Anyway, either Epstein was murdered or he's on one of his islands sipping margheuritas still getting sucked off by under age girls. Either way, it's just fucking madness to think they can pull this shit and get away with it. But they do like rubbing our noses in it. Anyone who has taken this case seriously will feel the frustration of it all. It's like banging your head in to a wall.

Just know that this is not a big deal. No one cares. No one of any note goes to prison over this. So many strands. So little investigative journalism being done on this. Make note of how Spacey got off. Those weird little videos he did. Goading. Cocky. Yet instead of being hammered, he got let off. There must have been a message in there somewhere that made someone pull some strings.

But there are many famous people in those court documents. Proven. And not many people have picked up on them. Forget about the flight manifests, they are a red herring, pretty much. The court documents with corroborated statements by several disparate witnesses is where it's at. There's enough there to feed the nightly news for several months. But they won't touch it with a bargepole.

You have to go really 'meta' with this case. You have to drill deep, but then you have to step back and get perspective. Rinse, repeat. And then you have to take two steps back even further and just ask the obvious question of 'why?', 'why now?', when he would have got away with it as well, if it only wasn't for those pesky kids!

Epstein did get away with it. But someone dug him up again. This is very reminiscent of the whole Trump debacle of internecine squabbling by hidden and dark factions, playing their hands, then going back undercover when exposed to too much light.

There is a war on for your mind. For your attention. For your feelings and emotions.

But behind the scenes, there really is some kind of major struggle and power play taking place that would make GoT look meek and mild. And no one really knows much about that.

Don't get too caught up on this. It's a rabbit hole that is only meant to distract and it leads nowhere. The real action is elsewhere, where they don't want you to look. But it is linked. Very much so. Too close for comfort for many people.

This whole world needs a catharsis. A reckoning. It would be a lot easier on everyone's psyche if they just came out with the videos of Clinton (mr. and mrs.) raping those young kids and then lock them up and throw away the key. But that won't happen. Because it's a whole web of deceit and lies. You know how it goes.

This is why I linked that video at the beginning of this post. I think that guy might be trying to sell something, but he seems plausible, and just the plain words out of his mouth should count for something. I put this here because he mentions Maxwell several times.

I get the whole kiddy fucking thing. I really do. People with more money than sense. More power than they can handle. Sure.

But what I have a problem with is the whole child sacrifice thing. Torture I can understand. Defiling of innocence I can understand. Because I have 'theory of mind'. But the whole satanic murder of kids is just a touch too far for my credulity to entertain. Then again, maybe I'm naive. He makes a lot of claims in that video but doesn't back anything up. Same old pattern, same old song.

I'm sick and tired of this baiting bullshit. No names, no actions taken against those who have been named. Wild, implausible things being claimed with no backup. It's just a major distraction and not a very fruitful line of thought for anyone to go down.

This shit goes on. Of that I have no doubt. But the people who dabble in it really are too powerful, too big to fail. It's a mixture of rubbing peoples' noses in their impotence, and just generally headfucking the general population so they don't know which way is up - a form of gaslighiting, if you will.

Don't hold any hope for any big names to come out. Let alone them going to jail. Ain't gonna happen.

Meanwhile, the real sick fucks who really did torture kids to death like Dutroux in Belgium, and the shit that went on in France, in Portugal, in Spain, in Germany, well... all memory holed.

We have some extremely disturbed individuals in our midst. Some of them are even running the country. But it's the ones who are really running the country behind the scenes I would worry about more. Men like Dutroux are needed - child catchers, child imprisoners (kept in holding until a request is made for that 'type'), child murderers to dispose of evidence, but they don't run the show. His wife got away with it as well and was let out of prison after a short period of time, causing much consternation among many of the people in that country. See that mass million march of all those people wearing white. The hosing down of public institutions with white paint to denote a white wash. They were fucking pissed off. And the major politicians who were implicated got off scott free.

Anyway, have a look at that video. I think it has some merit.

As for Maxwell, there is no easy way out for her. I think it will probably be a 'short illness' or a 'wild card prisoner trying to make a name for themselves' that does for her. One thing is for sure. She won't get up and name names in a court of law. Deals will be done, and the circus will roll on to the next part of town... pulling in more gullible punters that believe that what they are seeing is some kind of justice...
It would have been better to demonstrate what interesting things you actually found in the files with your special skills rather than writing this essay of bullshit
 
It would have been better to demonstrate what interesting things you actually found in the files with your special skills rather than writing this essay of bullshit


Ha ha yeah.

I knew you would say that. (or someone would)

Soz, not gonna bite and not gonna put up my research. But I get your frustration.

I'm not being a total dick. I already put my work up on one or two other sites and it's pretty individual. If I was to repeat it here I'd be doxxed. Sorry, not going to happen. Also, I'm still salty that I spent so much time uncovering shit that everyone else was too fucking lazy to look for (my skills aren't that unique), and well, I got about three fucking likes. I do this shit for dopamine hits. And when they don't come, I fuck off elsewhere where the pickings are rich. Kind of thing.

Tell me, did you even look at the documents yourself? Serious question. Do you know how many of them there are? The massive redundancy between them all?

Tell you what. I'll have another look at things, and I'll put some new shit up that doesn't mark me out. But my skills aren't so special that anyone with a bit of digital nouse couldn't find Gold in them there files, with a bit of patience and time on their hands.

It wasn't my intention to cocktease you and blueball you fren, I was making a greater point.

Still, there really isn't that much in there that hasn't been in the Daily Mail. Then again, the Daily Mail itself is referenced in the court documents, also. It's a recursive fuckfest that doesn't really go anywhere. I wouldn't have bothered myself, but I had some spare time on my hands.

The last dump I got was over 5000 pages long in a .pdf - and that included a lot of shit from before as well. Just even collating this shit in to a meaningful whole is a job in itself. Which is why most people have just given up after the first hurdle of Ctrl +F 'ing for "SEX", "DILDO", "BILL CLINTON". Yah get me?

There is hope that a new unredacted bunch of files comes out soon. But we will have to see what the courts decide. They are blocking a lot of stuff, but also releasing some pretty damning shit along the way. Whether YOU think it's damning, or the PUBLIC think it's damning, or the MEDIA think it's damning, well...

Personally, I've seen enough to know this is a bit of a wild goose chase. Though I might be wrong. Things are only alluded to in the vaguest of terms. People don't want to get arkansawed I guess.

Maybe I'll take a fresh look at things and try and come up with a hot new take. But all this is pretty academic, when we wait with such baited breath to see whether Jizz girl is going to off herself or get murdered, or die of the 'rona.

Everyone called it with Epstein. And that was a mindfuck in itself. But these are crazy times, they may even pull that shit again with Maxwell, and where does the story go after that?

Out of all the people who were involved in this shit, the closest people to Epstein got immunity, which they are wrangling to try to revoke. Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marcinkova (she has about 5 different name changes), plus a few other well known names if you have been paying attention. But that would be too messy. It's easier to put focus on just one bad actor like Maxwell. Cleaner that way. And when she dies, the story dies with her. Sarah and Nadia et al are probably shitting themselves a little bit though, because who knows which way the wind blows, in the coming weeks/months/years?

The real story here is not who done what. It's who the fuck is digging this shit up and for what purpose? Why are they seemingly eating their own? There is a major split and power play going on, and I haven't looked in to it enough, and don't have enough information to work out who those factions are. Someone knows somewhere. And this is not over yet. More twists and turns to come. Just no one famous being named or jailed. Of that you can be sure.

I tend to think this is just a major psyop to detract from the other real nasty shit that goes on. What Epstein, Maxwell et al, did was wrong, but fuck me, it's hardly the crime of the century. There are quite a few accusations of rape which makes the whole shebang a tad more nefarious, but on the whole, much of what went on was consensual, to the extent that these things could be consented to by under age girls. There are no dead bodies. No claims of torture. Just people abusing their enormous wealth and privilege, and young impressionable girls and kids getting sucked in to that power play. It's a limited hangout in many ways. I'm sure much more nefarious shit went on.

Anyway, no one seems to be doing any serious research on this, and I'm done with spoon feeding people who are too lazy to work it out for themselves. I'm all for shitposting and whatnot, but when I put 4 or 5 fucking days of my life on a page for people to lap up, I expect more than 3 fucking likes, or worse, neg ratings. At the end of the day I don't give a fuck.

I'll try to come up with something though, all the same, and I'm waiting really to see whether those new docs drop in an unredacted form. Shouldn't be too much longer now. Either that or Maxwell will stop being a problem for all concerned, for whatever reason. And then all this will be moot. Will they dig up Kellen or Marcinkova or the others to carry on this fight? I doubt it. The job will have been done by that point. There was no reason to dig this up in the first place, when everyone involved had to all intents and purposes got away with it.

Maybe what I'll do is give links to the full dumps. I'll give tips of the best programs to use to search the docs. And I'll give instructions of how to read the redacted stuff (where it CAN be read). But that means that people have to get involved and spend a few hours of spare time. I think it would be worthwhile, and if I had a couple of people seriously requesting this, I would definitely take the time. I'm sure there is a lot of Gold left in those docs, but it's the law of diminishing returns.

You don't need major reverse engineering skills to scour these docs. It's pretty much donkey work. Very frustrating with so much incomplete information, and with so much of it in graphics format that can not be searched by computer, and even what you find is hardly legible a lot of the time.

I like asspats, don't get me wrong, but I don't waste my time just for that. Even if I had got a fuck ton of likes, it still wouldn't have stopped me dropping this because people were not contributing and doing the work themselves. There are thousands of docs to go through. And no one man could ever cover that properly by himself.

Your reply to me is the very epitome of that attitude I have been rallying against. It's a good job I don't give a fuck or I might take offense.

I'll see what I can come up with. Intelligent questions are always good. Anyone showing that they have made a bit of effort to go through these files will get a better chance of a response from me. I'm just a fucking amateur. Not a sleuth. But at least I made a bit of effort.

But is it really worth it in a meta sense? I don't think so. There is no information in those files that equates to being actionable to the point where people like Clinton get arrested. So it's a fool's errand.

But it's still pretty funny though seeing the famous people that did whore themselves out to Epstein for large cash injections to their start-ups.

Perhaps I'll give some links to the docs and I'll point you to the relevant paragraphs, then you can work it out for yourself who I am talking about as it will be in plain print. You will have more context there as well. Then again, whether any of it is actual truth and reality is another thing. Sometimes I think a lot of this shit was just made up for an agenda.

The available documents are dense and sourced from many different places. A lot of which I can't understand because it's in legalese. But there are also draft novels contained in there that give all the goss of what went on, all in the guise of being the initial stages of a book put forward for consideration for publishing. There's a lot of meat and potatoes in there too. If even half of it can be believed. Which it can because it is backed up by other sources.

A lot of it reads like a cheap sex novel, a sort of x rated mills and boon fantasy island piece of pulp fiction. All the more palpable because you know half of it is true, but you just don't know exactly which half.

I seem to have written another essay. Deary me.
 
Anyway, no one seems to be doing any serious research on this, and I'm done with spoon feeding people who are too lazy to work it out for themselves. I'm all for shitposting and whatnot, but when I put 4 or 5 fucking days of my life on a page for people to lap up, I expect more than 3 fucking likes, or worse, neg ratings. At the end of the day I don't give a fuck.

This right here, you have nearly the entire 14th page dedicated to nonsensical rambling and you have the audacity to bitch about internet points. Learn what TLDR means instead of posting the way my grandma talks.
 
Ha ha yeah.

I knew you would say that. (or someone would)

Soz, not gonna bite and not gonna put up my research. But I get your frustration.

I'm not being a total dick. I already put my work up on one or two other sites and it's pretty individual. If I was to repeat it here I'd be doxxed. Sorry, not going to happen. Also, I'm still salty that I spent so much time uncovering shit that everyone else was too fucking lazy to look for (my skills aren't that unique), and well, I got about three fucking likes. I do this shit for dopamine hits. And when they don't come, I fuck off elsewhere where the pickings are rich. Kind of thing.

Tell me, did you even look at the documents yourself? Serious question. Do you know how many of them there are? The massive redundancy between them all?

Tell you what. I'll have another look at things, and I'll put some new shit up that doesn't mark me out. But my skills aren't so special that anyone with a bit of digital nouse couldn't find Gold in them there files, with a bit of patience and time on their hands.

It wasn't my intention to cocktease you and blueball you fren, I was making a greater point.

Still, there really isn't that much in there that hasn't been in the Daily Mail. Then again, the Daily Mail itself is referenced in the court documents, also. It's a recursive fuckfest that doesn't really go anywhere. I wouldn't have bothered myself, but I had some spare time on my hands.

The last dump I got was over 5000 pages long in a .pdf - and that included a lot of shit from before as well. Just even collating this shit in to a meaningful whole is a job in itself. Which is why most people have just given up after the first hurdle of Ctrl +F 'ing for "SEX", "DILDO", "BILL CLINTON". Yah get me?

There is hope that a new unredacted bunch of files comes out soon. But we will have to see what the courts decide. They are blocking a lot of stuff, but also releasing some pretty damning shit along the way. Whether YOU think it's damning, or the PUBLIC think it's damning, or the MEDIA think it's damning, well...

Personally, I've seen enough to know this is a bit of a wild goose chase. Though I might be wrong. Things are only alluded to in the vaguest of terms. People don't want to get arkansawed I guess.

Maybe I'll take a fresh look at things and try and come up with a hot new take. But all this is pretty academic, when we wait with such baited breath to see whether Jizz girl is going to off herself or get murdered, or die of the 'rona.

Everyone called it with Epstein. And that was a mindfuck in itself. But these are crazy times, they may even pull that shit again with Maxwell, and where does the story go after that?

Out of all the people who were involved in this shit, the closest people to Epstein got immunity, which they are wrangling to try to revoke. Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marcinkova (she has about 5 different name changes), plus a few other well known names if you have been paying attention. But that would be too messy. It's easier to put focus on just one bad actor like Maxwell. Cleaner that way. And when she dies, the story dies with her. Sarah and Nadia et al are probably shitting themselves a little bit though, because who knows which way the wind blows, in the coming weeks/months/years?

The real story here is not who done what. It's who the fuck is digging this shit up and for what purpose? Why are they seemingly eating their own? There is a major split and power play going on, and I haven't looked in to it enough, and don't have enough information to work out who those factions are. Someone knows somewhere. And this is not over yet. More twists and turns to come. Just no one famous being named or jailed. Of that you can be sure.

I tend to think this is just a major psyop to detract from the other real nasty shit that goes on. What Epstein, Maxwell et al, did was wrong, but fuck me, it's hardly the crime of the century. There are quite a few accusations of rape which makes the whole shebang a tad more nefarious, but on the whole, much of what went on was consensual, to the extent that these things could be consented to by under age girls. There are no dead bodies. No claims of torture. Just people abusing their enormous wealth and privilege, and young impressionable girls and kids getting sucked in to that power play. It's a limited hangout in many ways. I'm sure much more nefarious shit went on.

Anyway, no one seems to be doing any serious research on this, and I'm done with spoon feeding people who are too lazy to work it out for themselves. I'm all for shitposting and whatnot, but when I put 4 or 5 fucking days of my life on a page for people to lap up, I expect more than 3 fucking likes, or worse, neg ratings. At the end of the day I don't give a fuck.

I'll try to come up with something though, all the same, and I'm waiting really to see whether those new docs drop in an unredacted form. Shouldn't be too much longer now. Either that or Maxwell will stop being a problem for all concerned, for whatever reason. And then all this will be moot. Will they dig up Kellen or Marcinkova or the others to carry on this fight? I doubt it. The job will have been done by that point. There was no reason to dig this up in the first place, when everyone involved had to all intents and purposes got away with it.

Maybe what I'll do is give links to the full dumps. I'll give tips of the best programs to use to search the docs. And I'll give instructions of how to read the redacted stuff (where it CAN be read). But that means that people have to get involved and spend a few hours of spare time. I think it would be worthwhile, and if I had a couple of people seriously requesting this, I would definitely take the time. I'm sure there is a lot of Gold left in those docs, but it's the law of diminishing returns.

You don't need major reverse engineering skills to scour these docs. It's pretty much donkey work. Very frustrating with so much incomplete information, and with so much of it in graphics format that can not be searched by computer, and even what you find is hardly legible a lot of the time.

I like asspats, don't get me wrong, but I don't waste my time just for that. Even if I had got a fuck ton of likes, it still wouldn't have stopped me dropping this because people were not contributing and doing the work themselves. There are thousands of docs to go through. And no one man could ever cover that properly by himself.

Your reply to me is the very epitome of that attitude I have been rallying against. It's a good job I don't give a fuck or I might take offense.

I'll see what I can come up with. Intelligent questions are always good. Anyone showing that they have made a bit of effort to go through these files will get a better chance of a response from me. I'm just a fucking amateur. Not a sleuth. But at least I made a bit of effort.

But is it really worth it in a meta sense? I don't think so. There is no information in those files that equates to being actionable to the point where people like Clinton get arrested. So it's a fool's errand.

But it's still pretty funny though seeing the famous people that did whore themselves out to Epstein for large cash injections to their start-ups.

Perhaps I'll give some links to the docs and I'll point you to the relevant paragraphs, then you can work it out for yourself who I am talking about as it will be in plain print. You will have more context there as well. Then again, whether any of it is actual truth and reality is another thing. Sometimes I think a lot of this shit was just made up for an agenda.

The available documents are dense and sourced from many different places. A lot of which I can't understand because it's in legalese. But there are also draft novels contained in there that give all the goss of what went on, all in the guise of being the initial stages of a book put forward for consideration for publishing. There's a lot of meat and potatoes in there too. If even half of it can be believed. Which it can because it is backed up by other sources.

A lot of it reads like a cheap sex novel, a sort of x rated mills and boon fantasy island piece of pulp fiction. All the more palpable because you know half of it is true, but you just don't know exactly which half.

I seem to have written another essay. Deary me.
Dude Kiwifarms isn't your personal blog, no one cares unless you're actually going to back up anything you're rambling on about and yes I have looked at the documents. If you'd actually read this thread you would see that I've screenshotted and transcribed the names on the flight logs.

Oh, and while you were busy blog posting about bullshit and complaining that no one is doing anything I went ahead and archived the video that you not only didn't bother to archive ITT, you couldn't even be bothered to embed it.


You're welcome.
 
This right here, you have nearly the entire 14th page dedicated to nonsensical rambling and you have the audacity to bitch about internet points. Learn what TLDR means instead of posting the way my grandma talks.
How do you know your grandma isn't secretly a Farmer :thinking:

Also put me down for "attempts backflip; is halfway successful"
 
Dude Kiwifarms isn't your personal blog, no one cares unless you're actually going to back up anything you're rambling on about and yes I have looked at the documents. If you'd actually read this thread you would see that I've screenshotted and transcribed the names on the flight logs.

Oh, and while you were busy blog posting about bullshit and complaining that no one is doing anything I went ahead and archived the video that you not only didn't bother to archive ITT, you couldn't even be bothered to embed it.


You're welcome.

Regarding the claim of children being trafficked for organs, yep, this happened and probably is still happening witht 'unaccompanied children' trafficked from camps in Turkey by Greek diplomats for the purpose of organ theft, into Europe during the migrant crisis.



Greek diplomats issued visas for unaccompanied minors for the purpose of organ trade, according to a former Greek foreign minister.

Nikos Kotzias resigned from his post last month following a row with other Cabinet members over how to resolve the name dispute with Macedonia.

In an interview last week with the Journalists' Union of Athens Daily Newspapers, Kotzias said he sent 93 cases to prosecutors and some diplomats went to prison for issuing visas to unaccompanied minors.

"Do you know what visas for unaccompanied minors mean? It means the organ trade. And only because I saved several souls will I sleep in peace when my life ends," he said.

Kotzias had spoken publicly on the issue of visas for unaccompanied minors before, including at an event on the island of Crete on Oct. 22, but without mentioning the link to organ trade.
 
Dude, if your mind functions in a certain way where it's possible for you to spend hours poring through data, cross-referencing, inferring from snippets of data and so on, then just post your findings and let people whose minds work a different way sort out the details. It's alright to be cynical in this day and age, but having the data and not doing anything with it is giving tacit agreement and consent to those who really should be jailed or hanging by a rope.
 
Ok, I dun goofed. Consequences will never be the same for me again.

Feel a bit of a twat to be honest.

Ah well, it's only the internetz...

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Sorry for shitting up the thread.

Maxwell's new trial comes up at the end of November, start of December.

She recently had quite a few documents released that were in dispute with regard to it being prejudicial to her case. Judge finally released them. I don't think there's that many. I can't seem to get my hands on them like the others. But the main press do and they are releasing them slowly.

A lot of links have been wiped off search.

Anyway, the cruxt of this whole new case coming up is in regard to perjury carried out by Maxwell herself. There's been dozens of posts regarding this all over the net, but no one seems interested any more. You can do your own research here again.

But I will give you this:



She really just comes across as a very arrogant bitch, telling the bods grilling her: Let's just move along. She really has played that whole dominatrix thing for so long her whole life she can not extricate it from her new reality. Someone else is in charge now.

The upshot of this whole new case is that she just lied black and blue about knowing Virginia G. And this was not seen as credible. 23 flights there is on record where they shared a plane.


Ghislaine Maxwell is mocked by Virginia Roberts Giuffre's lawyers for having 'total amnesia' after claiming she couldn't recall taking flight with Epstein accuser - even though logs showed they flew 23 TIMES together, newly unsealed documents show​




The excerpts come a day after unsealed court documents revealed Maxwell was mocked for having 'total amnesia' after claiming in a deposition that she couldn't recall taking a single flight with Giuffre - even though flight logs show Maxwell traveling with Giuffre more than 23 times on the pedophile's private jet.

Dozens of files were unsealed by a federal judge in New York in relation to Maxwell's ongoing sex trafficking case.

The majority of the 52 files are related to a long-settled defamation lawsuit filed in 2016 by Giuffre after Maxwell called her a liar.

Among the documents that were unsealed overnight was Maxwell's efforts to quash requests from Giuffre's attorneys to obtain her financial records after Giuffre sued her for $50 million.


I suspect those recently unsealed documents will come out soon once they have been poured over by press first. There is some juicy shit in there. So they say. But it's always the same: names redacted.

Anyway, if you want to know why she is up in court in Nov/Dec, and what she is fighting against, you can get the full transcript here:



And I can only testify to the obvious lies that she says about me. I cannot make representations about lies she says about someone else, but she lies so many times about me, one can probably infer she is lying about everything.


Ghislaine goes all in. Who knows. Maybe Virginia really is just making it all up.


If you want to know what the fuck is happening in Nov/Dec when she finally goes to court (she's put it off so many times with technicalities), then this document would be a good background. You can see her absolute defiance in there. And she really does fight like a tiger even when against the ropes. I kind of admire her really for her brazen attitude. All the more so because with the mass of evidence against her, she really does not have a leg to stand on.

This is one bitch that will go down fighting to the end.

And with the recent news coming out about her connections to the Clintons (were none of you documenting this? NO!), I would be super surprised if she ever makes it to court. She is going to get the same Epstein/McAfee treatment.

But it's ok, there are thousands and thousands of documents to go through on this and most of you are too fucking lazy.

Piper needs to be payed in November/December. If Ghislaine is still alive then, who knows what twists and turns we will see.

At some point she will come to court. And the basis for much of that trial will be about her perjury in these documents:


It's a lot to get through. It was an abrasive and argumentative case.

But these are the points of contention she will be tested on. This very deposition.
 
If this bitch or anything she knew or had were a threat to anyone big, she'd be as dead as Epstein.
Either that or Epstien's hit was so botched that they don't dare try or it'll be too blatant for the normies to believe that she wasn't whacked. If she dies of even something normal like a heart attack spergs like us are gonna believe that she was assassinated by Mossad with Jewish sorcery.
 
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