DOD: No Plans to Shoot Down Falling Chinese Rocket Before Crash - Sounds like Biden wants to make his own 9/11


The Defense Department as of Thursday is not planning to shoot down a massive Chinese rocket currently falling uncontrolled toward Earth that is expected to crash down sometime on Saturday or Sunday.

"We have the capability to do a lot of things, but we don't have a plan to shoot it down as we speak," Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday afternoon.
His comments came days after other elements of the military confirmed that the 100-foot Long March 5B rocket, which helped launch China's first permanent space station into orbit, was no longer under control by Beijing's space agency – a violation of at least Western standards of space operations.

It also remains unclear where the rocket will land in the coming days – a detail about which Austin had few specifics on Thursday.
"We're hopeful it will land in a place where it won't harm anyone – hopefully in the ocean or someplace like that," Austin said, adding indirect criticism of the Chinese: "For those of us who operate in the space domain, there should be a requirement to operate in a safe and thoughtful mode, and make sure we take those kinds of things into consideration."
China through its state media on Wednesday blasted "Western hype of the 'China threat' in space technology advancement," citing civilian experts who believe it is "completely normal" for rocket debris to return to Earth and that it will "likely fall in international waters," offering no official assessment of the potential dangers.
The risk of this falling space debris, however, has raised alarm among many analysts.

"This is not unique. Things come down. What's unique about this is it's so large, and the Chinese did nothing to try to control its reentry or mitigate risk," Todd Harrison, director of the Aerospace Security Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, tells U.S. News. "This is evidence that they are a junior space power that hasn't really figured out how to operate safely and responsibly."

An 18-ton Chinese rocket fell uncontrolled into the Atlantic Ocean in May near the coast of West Africa, marking the largest piece of space debris to fall to earth since the Soviet space station Salyut 7 in 1991. China's first space station in 2016 crashed into the Pacific Ocean after officials confirmed they had lost control of it. Three years later, China executed a controlled demolition of its second station, Tiangong-2, in Earth's atmosphere.
American officials have previously slammed Chinese behavior in space as the burgeoning superpower expands its celestial exploration. In 2007, it tested an anti-satellite missile and successfully destroyed one of its orbiting weather satellites – a message to the world of its new capabilities and a grave concern to Western powers. Incidents like those are allowed, in part, due to relatively few international laws or rules governing space operations.

PLEASE LAND ON NEW YORK.

2 DIFFERENT THREADS WITH THE SAME TOPIC, BUT UNLIKE THEM THIS IS THE DOD RESPONDING.
 
I'm hoping for the Wuhan bioreaseach lab. Wuflu 2: bleeding eyes boogalo.



Here is the trace over the Earth of the orbits.

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Currently they're saying 09 May 2021 03:43 UTC ± 16 hours.
What's supposed to be what? I'm not familiar with this type of graphic. Is the dark spot intended to be the drop zone? Or is that the lit part?
 
What's supposed to be what? I'm not familiar with this type of graphic. Is the dark spot intended to be the drop zone? Or is that the lit part?
The dark bit is the bit that will be at night when it's predicted to come down with the white wave being the dawn/dusk line. All the colourful lines are the places on earth the debris will pass over in that 32 hour window.

When you flatten the Earth to make a map the satellite trace gives that characteristics shave of the "wave" with a peak at the latitude equal to the inclination of the orbit.

You can see it better on this one as its a lot less busy. It's 3 consecutive traces of the ISS, it basically comes from the left over the peak and off to the right.

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This one is also a good demonstration as it shows you where it was on the previous orbit and where it would be on the next orbit (iss again). So it shows how the trace changes on subsequent orbits due to the Earth's rotation.

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How many screwups is China going to make before some world leader just gives up and sends their military out for a bombing run?
Just look at what Saudi Arabia gets away with and you'll know what the limit is. Saudi Arabia has oil, China has cheap labor and lax environmental regulations.
 
The first will be an environmental catastrophe that will have the whole world cleaning up China's mess, the second won't actually solve anything because everyone will be evacuated beforehand, ditto for the next two, but the last will have a bunch of headless chickens stampeding each other to death in their attempts to escape karmic justice.

The rocket hitting Three Gorges would be an environmental disaster, but it would have the benefit of putting the CCP's utter incompetence on display for the whole world to see with no way to cover it up or excuse it. The Dam is already in bad shape after the flooding last year because of the corrupt system the CCP has fostered in China that incentivizes taking shortcuts and using substandard materials to a dangerous degree, and to have it collapse, kill millions of their own citizens, and destroy hundreds of thousands of square miles of their own land, including entire cities, all because of their dangerously lax attitude towards safety in both their infrastructure and their space missions would likely be the end of the Chinese Communist Party, even if they all were to be evaluated to safety.
 
The rocket hitting Three Gorges would be an environmental disaster, but it would have the benefit of putting the CCP's utter incompetence on display for the whole world to see with no way to cover it up or excuse it. The Dam is already in bad shape after the flooding last year because of the corrupt system the CCP has fostered in China that incentivizes taking shortcuts and using substandard materials to a dangerous degree, and to have it collapse, kill millions of their own citizens, and destroy hundreds of thousands of square miles of their own land, including entire cities, all because of their dangerously lax attitude towards safety in both their infrastructure and their space missions would likely be the end of the Chinese Communist Party, even if they all were to be evaluated to safety.
The breaking of the TGD would be poetic justice, as the breaking of the yellow River dams by Chaing ended his regime too.
 
The rocket hitting 3GD would be lucky. That way the chicoms could blame the failure of the dam on the rocket
 
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The rocket hitting Three Gorges would be an environmental disaster, but it would have the benefit of putting the CCP's utter incompetence on display for the whole world to see with no way to cover it up or excuse it. The Dam is already in bad shape after the flooding last year because of the corrupt system the CCP has fostered in China that incentivizes taking shortcuts and using substandard materials to a dangerous degree, and to have it collapse, kill millions of their own citizens, and destroy hundreds of thousands of square miles of their own land, including entire cities, all because of their dangerously lax attitude towards safety in both their infrastructure and their space missions would likely be the end of the Chinese Communist Party, even if they all were to be evaluated to safety.
I'm sure covid his already exposed the incompetence of China to the world. Governments and world organizations are submissive, but not the people who know China caused this crisis and were unable to prevent it.
 
The rocket hitting Three Gorges would be an environmental disaster, but it would have the benefit of putting the CCP's utter incompetence on display for the whole world to see with no way to cover it up or excuse it. The Dam is already in bad shape after the flooding last year because of the corrupt system the CCP has fostered in China that incentivizes taking shortcuts and using substandard materials to a dangerous degree, and to have it collapse, kill millions of their own citizens, and destroy hundreds of thousands of square miles of their own land, including entire cities, all because of their dangerously lax attitude towards safety in both their infrastructure and their space missions would likely be the end of the Chinese Communist Party, even if they all were to be evaluated to safety.
I've the storyboard ready for a sabotage thriller about a documentary crew bmbing the 3G dam to be shot on the real location by a documentary crew in disguise but no one would finance it
 
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The dark bit is the bit that will be at night when it's predicted to come down with the white wave being the dawn/dusk line. All the colourful lines are the places on earth the debris will pass over in that 32 hour window.

When you flatten the Earth to make a map the satellite trace gives that characteristics shave of the "wave" with a peak at the latitude equal to the inclination of the orbit.

You can see it better on this one as its a lot less busy. It's 3 consecutive traces of the ISS, it basically comes from the left over the peak and off to the right.

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This one is also a good demonstration as it shows you where it was on the previous orbit and where it would be on the next orbit (iss again). So it shows how the trace changes on subsequent orbits due to the Earth's rotation.

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Map is a bit updated since it's getting nearer. But its the last update.
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So to simplify- if I'm looking at it right: Brazil, Spain, and parts of Europe are under the chances of getting hit by the debris, but Spain's chances is higher than the three listed? And the target spot on the bottom right is where the main rocket is going to land?
Still pretty confused with the explanation
 
You know what would make the "a Chinese rocket is falling to Earth somewhere" situation worse? Turning it into "a bunch of random shrapnel from a Chinese rocket we shot down is falling to Earth somewhere oh and now the Russians and possibly some other people are kind of pissed that we fired off a missile like that".
 
You know what would make the "a Chinese rocket is falling to Earth somewhere" situation worse? Turning it into "a bunch of random shrapnel from a Chinese rocket we shot down is falling to Earth somewhere oh and now the Russians and possibly some other people are kind of pissed that we fired off a missile like that".

Yeah -- I suspect way too many people think it's going to go boom and vanish, just like a TIE Fighter. The reality is we could probably hit it, but there's no compelling reason to push a rocket from hitting one random location into hitting some other random location.

The only reason to shoot it down would be to crack open a fuel tank filled with toxic chemicals.
 
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