Dodge Says Charger Daytona’s Unintended Acceleration Is A Feature Not A Bug

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  • Edmunds recently experienced unintended acceleration in its Charger Daytona test vehicle.
  • Similar issues have been reported online, prompting a response from automaker Stellantis.
  • It says this is a ‘drive-by-brake’ safety feature that has been on combustion cars for years.


For most folks, a car that accelerates on its own is a dangerous proposition. Just ask Toyota those unintended acceleration headlines weren’t exactly a PR dream. According to Stellantis, though, that’s a meticulously engineered safety feature. It just happens to be one that we haven’t really heard about before today.

In fact, it only entered the spotlight after Edmunds experienced the issue firsthand with its Dodge Charger Daytona long-term tester, which began picking up speed without the driver’s input.

To put things lightly, the launch of the Charger Daytona hasn’t gone as well as Stellantis might have hoped. That said, it’s still a vehicle worthy of testing and reviewing, and that’s why Edmunds has one. What they likely never expected was that it would speed up on its own one day.

An Unexpected Moment

According to the tester who was behind the wheel at the time, things went sideways almost immediately:

“I was pulling out onto a thoroughfare street from a strip mall parking lot when warning lights appeared on the Charger’s instrument panel for the stability control, frontal collision warning system, regenerative braking, and more. There was also a short-lived message — it might have been something about the forward collision warning system — and that the car would be in low power mode. This wasn’t good. I could tell something was wrong because the car accelerated sluggishly.

Once up to speed, the Charger did the thing we’re all here to talk about. It kept accelerating even after the driver lifted their foot off of the pedal. That’s weird in any car, but even stranger in an EV, where regenerative braking usually slows the car down faster than in a combustion car.

According to the driver, this wasn’t rapid acceleration, but more akin to the speed one typically gains in an automatic car when letting off of the brakes from a dead stop. Except, rather than only being capable of picking up a little speed, it managed to add around one mile per hour each second that the brakes weren’t applied. That said, the brakes did work, albeit with more force necessary (according to the driver) than normal.

I let the car accelerate by itself as a test. It reached about 45 mph before I had to apply the brakes again for another stop sign. That was enough. Using the time-tested fix for all things tech. I pulled off onto a side street from the stop sign and parked. Fortunately, the acceleration stopped when I put the transmission in Park.”


For its part, Stellantis says that this is the way it’s designed, but we’ll circle back to that. First, it’s important to point out that Edmunds isn’t alone. Thomas Hundal over at The Autopian compiled a list of similar instances documented online.

That included one complaint directly to the NHTSA, where a driver claimed that the car sped up even after they were off the accelerator. They finished their complaint with an important detail. “I regained control using the brake alone.” When confronted with this evidence, Stellantis responded, and the statement it gave was a whopper.

All Of This Is Intentional, Says Stellantis

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Here’s the statement in full before we break it down a little.


“In the rare event of an accelerator pedal fault, Stellantis has implemented a ‘drive-by-brake’ safety feature, which allows the driver to control speed through the brake pedal. In this instance, the feature worked as intended, and the driver was able to safely maneuver the vehicle off the road. This feature has been in Stellaris internal combustion engine vehicles for many years and has been carried over to battery electric vehicles.”

That’s right, folks, nothing to see here. “The feature worked as intended.” This is especially gobsmacking because the car doesn’t tell the driver what is happening. It doesn’t alert drivers to, you know, drive via the brake pedal. Of course, many electric cars now feature one pedal driving, but those ones use active regenerative braking to slow down when no input is provided.

It seems that the Charger Daytona is fitted with technology that does the exact opposite. It’s worth noting that while Stellantis says this is a feature carried over from combustion cars, we can’t find any examples of it. There’s no mention of it in past press releases, owner’s manuals, or any other documentation we’ve checked up until now, though we’re still digging, and if anything turns up, we’ll update the story.

For now, at least, several outlets are trying to get the word out to Charger Daytona owners that if their cars accelerate when they don’t expect it, it’s totally normal. Honestly, this doesn’t sound like a totally terrible feature so long as owners know what to expect and when to expect it. We’ve reached out to Stellantis in hopes of learning more about the situation. If we hear back, we’ll update you here.

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Even if their response is true I like how they have given their car the ability to detect that the accelerator has failed but instead of just stopping the car from accelerating further and advising the driver to pull over they have decided in fact the safer option is to have it continue to accelerate until the brake is pressed, without telling you whats going on... Who the fuck came up with this?
 
So basically they are trying to emulate idle speed with electric motors? It makes sense but allowing it to get to 45 mph seems like a bit much.
No, they claim that their ICE vehicles also have this feature. In the event of an accelerator failure the car will enter this mode and will continue to accelerate until the brake is pressed.
 
Even if their response is true I like how they have given their car the ability to detect that the accelerator has failed but instead of just stopping the car from accelerating further and advising the driver to pull over they have decided in fact the safer option is to have it continue to accelerate until the brake is pressed, without telling you whats going on... Who the fuck came up with this?
Not surprising. Some genius at Dodge thought putting the battery behind the driver's side tire well on the Journeys was a brilliant idea.
 
Classic Stellantis. These corporate raiders won't be in business for long. It's a shame to watch Mopar die this way.

Seriously, they made the Charger electric-only. What the fuck were they thinking? People in the market for a Charger dont want a gay-ass EV, they want a Hemi. Ford really has a chance to steal their lunch here. (Don't get me started on the Ford retards and their Mach-E. They had a chance to revive the Thunderbird with 50s retro-future styling and what do they do? They besmirch their most iconic brand with a fucking shoe shaped electric crossover. Shame.)
 
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No, they claim that their ICE vehicles also have this feature. In the event of an accelerator failure the car will enter this mode and will continue to accelerate until the brake is pressed.
In the event of an accelerator failure in a Dodge RAM the driver only has to hold on for about two minutes (the average lifespan of the transmission)
 
Making the Charger an EV was one of the dumbest fucking ideas ever, almost on a par with the Srudebaker-Packard merger.

Chrysler, Stellantis, or whatever the fuck they call themselves need to concentrate on Jeeps and Ram trucks and shitcan everything else.
 
I didn't know (((dodge))) was partnered with (((bioware))) and (((bethesda)))! Maybe it was a feature when the breaks when out a few times and the engine leaked carbon dioxide into the cab too.
Remember everybody, you can thank dodge for the jewish american corporate climate we've had for all these years. You're not driving a dodge, you're being run over by one, ©™
 
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Actually this being a "safety feature" does make sense as most cars after the mid-2000s stopped using cable throttles (direct linkage) and instead started using e-throttles. If the throttle controls fail and for whatever reason the pedal can't communicate with the servo opening and closing the throttle, you would want a way to get the car off the road and if the throttle ain't opening it isn't moving sooooo

The fact more people don't experience this over years indicates that's a pretty rare failure though, so if we're seeing multiple people reporting this almost immediately, the throttle system parts are the issue.
 
Classic Stellantis. These corporate raiders won't be in business for long. It's a shame to watch Mopar die this way.

Seriously, they made the Charger electric-only. What the fuck were they thinking? People in the market for a Charger dont want a gay-ass EV, they want a Hemi. Ford really has a chance to steal their lunch here. (Don't get me started on the Ford retards and their Mach-E. They had a chance to revive the Thunderbird with 50s retro-future styling and what do they do? They besmirch their most iconic brand with a fucking shoe shaped electric crossover. Shame.)

It's becoming a race of which automaker will fail first, Stellantis, or Nissan. Nissan has also been in deep shit in recent years, with them shutting down Infiniti dealers and moving them into existing Nissan ones, a failed merger attempt with Honda, and their cars being mostly dogshit as a whole.
 
you would want a way to get the car off the road and if the throttle ain't opening it isn't moving sooooo
Let's reason this out: carrying on down the road, at anything but the slowest speeds you should have momentum to get to a shoulder/emergency lane. If you are stopped/at very low speed and this happens, it's very unlikely you are in a situation where you must get off the road immediately. Stalled vehicles are risky, and annoying to other drivers, but it's not the kind of immediate danger that calls for overriding expected behaviors. If it is, you can always get out and push, or have someone slowly push your vehicle off the road using their own (this is why cops have push bars).

Throttle-by-wire usually means you're also going to be braking-by-wire in new vehicles, especially electronic ones. If a fault is affecting acceleration there isn't a way to be confident it is not also effecting braking. In that context a fail-safe mode would be to stop. A stalled vehicle may pose a hazard, uncontrollable acceleration will pose a hazard.
 
Even if their response is true I like how they have given their car the ability to detect that the accelerator has failed but instead of just stopping the car from accelerating further and advising the driver to pull over they have decided in fact the safer option is to have it continue to accelerate until the brake is pressed, without telling you whats going on... Who the fuck came up with this?
The same morons who thought muscle car enthusiasts wanted an ugly as fuck electric muscle car with a fake exhaust note pumped out through a shitty speaker. I'm not sure if they ever followed through on the last thing but they were talking about it at one point.
 
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