does anyone else feel chronic lonely?

[Forsaken Wanderer]

crunk lonely

 

[CallmeCicada]

That's not what i said

Fair enough. My only point is that it is important to be able to be comfortable while you are alone in a room. Similarly you are saying things I did not say, I am not advocating for people to live in complete isolation at all times. Only to be able to be alone and be happy for as long as possible.

You keep dragging the conversation away from the topic of loneliness, it's not uncommon for people to be socially engaged regularly with others but still experience feelings of loneliness. It's why I am making a distinction. Loneliness and isolation are not mutually exclusive.

Being alone too long is unhealthy, being unable to be alone at all is also unhealthy. It would benefit anyone to build healthy/positive mechanisms to stave off loneliness for as long as possible. If you are able to enjoy your time being alone why is it a bad thing.

That's all.

 

[Cornfed]

Yes, but such is life.

 

[General Disarray]

Wait until you get of the age where, when you think of a friend you haven't seen in a while, there's a >50% chance they're dead now. Loneliness only gets worse with age so find someone that you can at least deal with now, even if your conversation after 20 years consists solely of the day-to-day niceties and droll subjects like the weather and what is needed on the shopping trip.

At least you'll have someone to annoy.

 

[オプセック]

it can either go left or right. but this is peculiar, and presupposes purely mechanical nature of everything. mind and consciousness are not mechanical however. conscious efforts at structuring, taking a better look, pondering upon oneself and one's knowledge already in the process transforms what is there and is an addition in itself, while also changing that which is the object.

the problem with that is, you have to go outside and present that transformative result to another brain, a brain in it's own person-jar with similar circumstances of living, as to make sure you are not just going off the rails - differential error correction. Actually, my take is the "no man can know himself"-pilled one, not yours. You put way too much stock in your brain's rng when it's reiterating (aka pondering) it's own kahntent over and and over. The old greeks were correct, imho: reading out loud is based, reading in silence is weird and abnormal - you should constantly be scrutinized by fellow pondering chads in le grand pondering square of athens. The west it's and christian tradition are schizo borne, which is why we now have the exact opposite culture: people schizophrenically (me included - sometimes) muttering to themselves and reading in silence.
But that's off topic, at least kinda.

 

[Daddy's Angry Juice]

I said a meaningful thing too!

 

[I hate women (like you)]

you should constantly be scrutinized by fellow pondering chads in le grand pondering square of athens

i would be ready to agree but there is a big problem: even if there is potentially worth in mutual scrutiny, you have to speak to someone who scrutinizes - alas, the west has fallen, we have no scrutiny but good vibes only. then comes the second big problem: how can something that is said be anything but untrue? Rails only railroad and the true theme park lies beyond the ride, the depth of the individual experience that is of course systemic insofar that any element can not stand alone if it wants to retain any sense. What I mean is that what i put stock in is that there is nothing to be gained for a person because everything that is to be had is already there = microcosm. against your champion of differential error of solitude I put my champion of differential error of chit-chat. Imagine a bazaar and some indian smelly guy is trying to haggle sell you something that you already have - this is what I imagine and then imagine a bazaar where you are alone selling yourself your own stuff and haggling with yourself and this is what I imagine you imagine.

 

[Daddy's Angry Juice]

i would be ready to agree but there is a big problem: even if there is potentially worth in mutual scrutiny, you have to speak to someone who scrutinizes - alas, the west has fallen, we have no scrutiny but good vibes only. then comes the second big problem: how can something that is said be anything but untrue? Rails only railroad and the true theme park lies beyond the ride, the depth of the individual experience that is of course systemic insofar that any element can not stand alone if it wants to retain any sense. What I mean is that what i put stock in is that there is nothing to be gained for a person because everything that is to be had is already there = microcosm. against your champion of differential error of solitude I put my champion of differential error of chit-chat. Imagine a bazaar and some indian smelly guy is trying to haggle sell you something that you already have - this is what I imagine and then imagine a bazaar where you are alone selling yourself your own stuff and haggling with yourself and this is what I imagine you imagine.

But we could leave this town and run FOREVER

 

[オプセック]

this is what I imagine and then imagine a bazaar where you are alone selling yourself your own stuff and haggling with yourself and this is what I imagine you imagine.

There is no "differential error" of solitude, there's just error and is grows larger, the longer you cook alone. Addressing the microcosm issue, I don't believe in that "you already know everything you will ever know" stuff, I just don't. I think the brain is mostly an empty vessel, restrained by biological form and shaped by reflexes and base needs.
So, I do know that you can come up with original ideas by just reiterating and skimming what's already there,
but I don't think you should do that for too long.
The problem you describe is actually, very much the thread topic:
You can be surrounded by haggling Indians and still be lonely, but thinking that your own company is superior, might very well be a fallacy, because the Indian might not discuss interesting ideas with you, but he's still embedded in your shared reality, so as long as you don't find that ancient greek pondering square, it's better to engage with that, than to ponder with yourself - sure, you will become more Indian because of that, but he will also become a little more white At least you are both engaged in navigating real space with two bipedal brain vessels, instead of only one, talking to itself.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

I mean, you could if you wanted to, lol.

I can still think to myself and do things that interest me, go do out door activities I enjoy, read books, listen to music or draw. Conversation isn't the only to keep yourself satisfied.

what do you mean? Some of the best conversations I've ever had were between me and myself. You can talk loud, or you can write down what your thinking. It's great. if it doesnt satisfy you maybe try dming random kiwi farms users

The problem is that you can only think so many thoughts on your own, you will just be going around in circles without another voice. You already know what you are going to say, you don't know what someone else is going to say.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Lonely, is this what we've become
So lonely, fractured and unloved
Lost inside our souls and blindly staring at the sun
So lonely, is this what we've become

Anyways not chronically but sometimes. I'd potentially like to release a personals ad searching for a lady who's interesting in laying in bed being pitiful and watching documentaries together. My bed is queen sized and I'm even willing to sweeten the deal by washing the sheets.

I said a meaningful thing too!

You've said nothing meaningful at all, you little fool. You silly creature.
Also the song lyrics in your subsequent post is from Yellowcard I think where as my song lyrics (which I planned to write before coming in here) are from Atreyu so it's less dumb, probably.

 

[Daddy's Angry Juice]

Lonely, is this what we've become
So lonely, fractured and unloved
Lost inside our souls and blindly staring at the sun
So lonely, is this what we've become

Anyways not chronically but sometimes. I'd potentially like to release a personals ad searching for a lady who's interesting in laying in bed being pitiful and watching documentaries together. My bed is queen sized and I'm even willing to sweeten the deal by washing the sheets.


You've said nothing meaningful at all, you little fool. You silly creature.
Also the song lyrics in your subsequent post is from Yellowcard I think where as my song lyrics (which I planned to write before coming in here) are from Atreyu so it's less dumb, probably.

>Atreyu so it's less dumb
Nigga I just versed that off the top of my head the fact that you had to reference a movie and feel that you have a right to call me dumb is evidence to how dumb you are.