Does anyone else genuinely miss the 2000s?

2000s was the best decade of media publishing. a lot of indie books, music, comix, movies. sure its consoomerism but the variety was greater.

media companies like tartan uk and disinfo would publish all kinds of shit, amazon had stock of uncle fester's books, hollywood video had yuge selections of indie bfilms. netflix streamed all kinds of goofy shit

today, physical media is dead and if your shit is politically incorrect good luck finding it at reasonable prices. and if youre into wignat shit all those distros collapsed or turned out to be fed honeypots.

if you're torrenting oop media you,'re lucky if there are any seeders.

is tromadance still a thing?
 
I miss the shows, I miss the aesthetics. I miss the over-saturation in the shows, and at the same time I miss the brutalist white buildings that adorned everywhere, the underground feeling my country had, and the general sense of growth. It felt like a tough, but fair place, with a lot of happy memories. Much better than the 10s by a longshot.
 
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More than anything else, I miss being able to speak freely.

No, that doesn’t mean I want to drop n-bombs in polite company. I just miss when conversations didn’t have this permeating sense of unease, where the slightest misstep could cause people to start whispering about you in private and uninvite you from social gatherings and start dissociating from you completely because you stepped out of line.

Everything anyone says around each other is sanitized and ran through a filter. Everyone (at least, those I hang out with/am related to) is terrified of being canceled for merely implying something politically incorrect.

One instance from my own life- a guy misgendered a mutual trans friend a few times over voice chat. Said guy was then quietly banned from the server and un-personed over time. They are no longer in our group chats and don’t engage with us anymore. And, mind you, he apologized profusely afterward.

There are so many instances I can think of, of a person merely slipping and even apologizing and still getting thrown out of friend circles for the crime of saying the wrong thing.

It makes socialization exhausting. It honestly makes me miss the South Park days where people tried to be edgy as shit in order to be counter-culture. At least I could breathe around other young adults then. Nowadays I mostly talk to a handful of close friends regularly because I know they won’t cancel me at the drop of a hat, and I can actually say things unfiltered around them. My world is smaller but much less stressful that way.
 
Like I said in the WuFlu thread:



I'm used to "100 years ago" being the "steampunk IRL" time.

Now "100 years ago" is already "The Roaring Twenties"?
We have hit the point where World War 2 is considered by zoomers to be "old and irrelevant", which is both sad and a reflection of the state of education. Slavery and reparations though, that's still relevant.

More than anything else, I miss being able to speak freely.

No, that doesn’t mean I want to drop n-bombs in polite company. I just miss when conversations didn’t have this permeating sense of unease, where the slightest misstep could cause people to start whispering about you in private and uninvite you from social gatherings and start dissociating from you completely because you stepped out of line.

Everything anyone says around each other is sanitized and ran through a filter. Everyone (at least, those I hang out with/am related to) is terrified of being canceled for merely implying something politically incorrect.

One instance from my own life- a guy misgendered a mutual trans friend a few times over voice chat. Said guy was then quietly banned from the server and un-personed over time. They are no longer in our group chats and don’t engage with us anymore. And, mind you, he apologized profusely afterward.

There are so many instances I can think of, of a person merely slipping and even apologizing and still getting thrown out of friend circles for the crime of saying the wrong thing.

It makes socialization exhausting. It honestly makes me miss the South Park days where people tried to be edgy as shit in order to be counter-culture. At least I could breathe around other young adults then. Nowadays I mostly talk to a handful of close friends regularly because I know they won’t cancel me at the drop of a hat, and I can actually say things unfiltered around them. My world is smaller but much less stressful that way.
No joke, feel the same. Have to walk on eggshells around some really sensitive people is tiring especially since cancel culture is mainstream. I knew people who were almost cancelled a few years ago, or have flipped it around to cancel someone else. It's fucked. I think I'm going to make not giving a crap about that the new years resolution. Not going to be rude, but just stop giving a crap. They want to flip out and scream, then they aren't worth interacting with. Burn that fucking bridge.
 
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And like I said in the WuFlu thread:

In just one year America went from a circus full of hipsters REEing about endless social "justice" non-issues, to an insane asylum full of hipsters REEing for living like basement dwelling autistics wearing muzzles and giving governments the power to enforce such. Also social "justice" non-issues ramped up to 11.

Maybe the Sun is emitting some kind of weird radiation that's messing with the brain or something. Why is 2020 so insane?
 
We have hit the point where World War 2 is considered by zoomers to be "old and irrelevant", which is both sad and a reflection of the state of education. Slavery and reparations though, that's still relevant.
As someone who has always been very interested in WW2 this is something that I've been thinking more and more about lately. It bums me out to think that in a generation or so, other than knowing to call everyone that you don't like Hitler/a Nazi, most young people are probably just going to think of it as "Huh? Oh yeah it was some old white people shit or something." As you said though, slavery will still be the most important thing ever, never to be forgotten or downplayed.
 
As someone who has always been very interested in WW2 this is something that I've been thinking more and more about lately. It bums me out to think that in a generation or so, other than knowing to call everyone that you don't like Hitler/a Nazi, most young people are probably just going to think of it as "Huh? Oh yeah it was some old white people shit or something." As you said though, slavery will still be the most important thing ever, never to be forgotten or downplayed.

Don't forget the Holocaust as well, that's going to remain important, even if the rest of it is forgotten. The state of it is bad where I am that when I ask both male and female zoomers (friends of my zoomer sibling) which sides fought in the war, they can't name them correctly, or they do but think the UK fought alongside Germany. That's not historical knowledge as much as it is general knowledge. The general knowledge of zoomers who are near adult age is shocking. I have had them tell me that's "irrelevant knowledge that won't help them in the future", in spite the war and everything after is vital to understanding why the world is the way it is today. I don't think their ignorance is by accident. I think it's the result of the world trending more socialist, and with it the erosion of old culture and history. Unless you specifically go looking for that history to learn, you won't be taught it.
 
It's interesting how many people talk about their nostalgia through the lens of the media that they were consuming at the time. I was complaining to my mother a few weeks ago about how everything has gone downhill since 2007 or so when smartphones and social media started to become popular and later omnipresent. I talked about how in the 90s, as a kid, I would still actually have to go outside to hang out with friends and shit; basically how The Internet Ruined Everything. She countered by complaining about how, in her eyes, me and my siblings were always playing console video games instead of going outside like she and her siblings did before video games existed. And she was right in many ways; on reflection I spent countless hours playing NES/SNES/PS video games instead of doing real life shit, and I kind of feel like I would have been much happier had I spent that time doing more real life shit instead of playing vidya.

I think it's worth examining how so many of us couch things in terms of how great the tv shows, the video games, the old internet, etc were. How blind are we because this stuff is the air we breathed? Seems like people were much happier before media in general became such a dominant part of how we describe our lives. Many people nowadays never even knew a world without video games, social media, and smart phones.
Really makes you wonder how personal stories, books, movies, etc. in the future will portray 2000's and 2010's nostalgia.

Stories about kids in the 70's showed them going outside on their own and having adventures in the wild with their friends, 80's and 90's kids went out on the streets skating, drinking, painting graffiti, etc.
2010's kids had... Staying in their homes, "emotional struggles", escapist fiction, sharing memes, identity politics and jacking off to their waifus?

No one even seems to mind this stuff. Parents can let their kids be future escapism-prone butterflies with no social skills or attachment to reality as long as they're "safe", and even these same teens call you a "le wrong generation boomer" if you criticize any of this.
 
I miss 2004 - 2010 mainly because it was the only time of my life that I legitimately enjoyed. The rest of my life, both before and after was shit. 2011 onwards has just been a rough time for me. Although as for the whole internet thing, I only started using the internet until late 2006. But even then it was only YouTube until 2009/10 when I ventured into porn, shock sites, Uncyclopedia/ED, and Google. Around that time I was learning CSS, SQL injection, adminlogin.php exploits (and other .php exploits), creating viruses, saving and editing web pages to make it look like I hacked them or whatever, and so on. But around 2011/12 the internet has pretty much turned to shit. I don't know how to describe it. It no longer was as fun as it used to be and it became more like a cesspit of normies. And as of 2020 the internet is fucking dead. I think smartphones is what killed it. The high radiation kills brain cells and turns you into a zombie.
 
Really makes you wonder how personal stories, books, movies, etc. in the future will portray 2000's and 2010's nostalgia.

Stories about kids in the 70's showed them going outside on their own and having adventures in the wild with their friends, 80's and 90's kids went out on the streets skating, drinking, painting graffiti, etc.
2010's kids had... Staying in their homes, "emotional struggles", escapist fiction, sharing memes, identity politics and jacking off to their waifus?

No one even seems to mind this stuff. Parents can let their kids be future escapism-prone butterflies with no social skills or attachment to reality as long as they're "safe", and even these same teens call you a "le wrong generation boomer" if you criticize any of this.
There are some fads which could make a comeback here and there like virgin killer sweaters and dangerhair but culture in general is just too fragmented to go very far. If it ever gets as far as the internet then we'll see a whole bunch of stuff about how you could see porn on it and put in comments without affecting your credit score.
 
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I don't think Biden and other centrist Democrats are extreme. AOC and Ilhan Omar, sure, but they're on the fringes of the party. There's no way a Biden administration will go through with defunding the police and all the other crap Reddit wants. Politicians make a load of campaign promises and don't fulfil most of them.
Centrists Democrats are the reason we have COVID lockdowns. Biden is obviously weak and ineffective even when he was sane. The Squad are on the fringes now, but they can only grow in the Democratic party while Centrists slowly become obsolete. The key problem with Centrists, and the Moderate Left in general, is they want to keep an increasingly failing status quo while cock-teasing the radicals they court.

Both of them hate free markets and deregulation, so I want them to fight each other.
 
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I just got deadrising the og one free on xbox gold (good lord to think once upon a time it cost 50 dollars new on disc) and it's oddly enough a perfect time capsule of the mid-late 2000's. you have frank's digital camera with an sd card..that still uses replaceable batteries, boxy old cathode ray tube tvs next to what at the time where fancy new flat screen hd plasma screens, shopping malls while not as promient as they had been in the 80s and 90s were still a chic thing and still a hotspot place to be,

And of course the satire on american culture in a post 9/11 war on terror but pre social media world. I mean the closest you had where early face book and a then dying myspace and twitter was launched just that same year but it's not like today where everyone was using those platforms...and of course they were nowhere near as authoritarian as they are now.

my point is the 2000's are only a few decades away and aren't THAT different than our current year here in the 2010's going into the 2020's....but they are starting to get their. It wont be long until the days of that decade feel as far away and distant to this generation as the 80's and even the 90's felt to us then...and moreso now.


*sigh* ive gone and depressed myself
 
I just got deadrising the og one free on xbox gold (good lord to think once upon a time it cost 50 dollars new on disc) and it's oddly enough a perfect time capsule of the mid-late 2000's. you have frank's digital camera with an sd card..that still uses replaceable batteries, boxy old cathode ray tube tvs next to what at the time where fancy new flat screen hd plasma screens, shopping malls while not as promient as they had been in the 80s and 90s were still a chic thing and still a hotspot place to be,

And of course the satire on american culture in a post 9/11 war on terror but pre social media world. I mean the closest you had where early face book and a then dying myspace and twitter was launched just that same year but it's not like today where everyone was using those platforms...and of course they were nowhere near as authoritarian as they are now.

my point is the 2000's are only a few decades away and aren't THAT different than our current year here in the 2010's going into the 2020's....but they are starting to get their. It wont be long until the days of that decade feel as far away and distant to this generation as the 80's and even the 90's felt to us then...and moreso now.


*sigh* ive gone and depressed myself
Oh yeah, Dead Rising is a great snapshot of the mid-2000s, even down to the fashions some of the female characters wear.
 
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