Does Chris Pay his Taxes?

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LucridMockery said:
and is not on any mental pills
He is on some mental pills, or was in the past at least. I can't imagine they took him off them since then XD
 
Chris doesn't actually use his money for bills though. If it weren't for his parents, he would have spent 100% of it on vidya. And they would have just supported him out of their own pockets for the rest of their lives.

It's like setting him up for failure. He would be much better off going thru Gov. job training/coping classes and being set up in a menial job.
It would give him a social outlet, social skills, more confidence to take care of himself, and make him self-sufficient. He really should have had that in high school instead of being passed along in easy classes.

But alot of kids graduate without the skills to pay the bills. Doesn't mean they deserve a check too.

Plus alot of people can't survive on what they make. I haven't spent thousands on games like Chris though, that's for sure. I wish he would be held accountable for himself more. He could have done more with his life.

It's funny he wanted to go to his reunion. To tell his classmates what? That he hasn't done anything in the past 10+ years? Most people would be too embarrassed of that to show up if they were unemployed.
 
Bgheff said:
Anna bitches about being poor on her minimum wage job. I assume it does suck, but there is always going to be that class that has to live on it. If it turns out Chris is competent enough to manage his money to not live on the streets when Barb crocks, I think he was competent enough to work a minimum or close to minimum wage job.
I don't see the connection.

Bgheff said:
I believe that would end up giving him close to what the tugboat is anyways if he worked full time.
Yeah, more or less, but I don't know how feasible it is for him to work full time.

LucridMockery said:
He would be much better off going thru Gov. job training/coping classes and being set up in a menial job.
It would give him a social outlet, social skills, more confidence to take care of himself, and make him self-sufficient. He really should have had that in high school instead of being passed along in easy classes.
Oh, certainly. But we can't change the past. And Chris doesn't deserve to suffer for his parents mistakes.

LucridMockery said:
But alot of kids graduate without the skills to pay the bills. Doesn't mean they deserve a check too.
Uhh, well, some people might think they do. Really, like I said earlier, I don't have an opinion either way on whether people with mental problems deserve assistance from the government. But if you do believe they do, and if your basis for how bad off they have to be is that they can't support themselves, Chris (in his current and for the foreseeable future) qualifies.
 
I think Chris needs more intervention. Like being checked up on to make sure he doesn't go off the deep end. Does he have to check in with a probation officer? Or I guess a parole officer? It could prevent another Synder type incident. He didn't learn his lesson about tresspassing because Rocky helped him get a slap on the wrist. And I supposed his conviction would certainly impede him getting work now. He blames the trolls for not getting work, but he (and his mom) did that all to him. He doesn't have a clean record either.

I didn't know it took him so long to get that degree. That means he took 12 semesters to get 72 credits. That's only taking 2 classes at a time. That would look really bad to an employer.
 
Kosher Dill said:
LucridMockery said:
and is not on any mental pills
He is on some mental pills, or was in the past at least. I can't imagine they took him off them since then XD
yep! I don't think he stopped taking them though, they helped him cope with "stress" (:_( or that's what he said in one of the calls...can't remember which though.
 
The frustrating thing about Chris is that he doesn't use the tugboat money properly. That's what "grinds the gears" of many people when it comes to this subject, I think.
 
LucridMockery said:
I think Chris needs more intervention. Like being checked up on to make sure he doesn't go off the deep end. Does he have to check in with a probation officer? Or I guess a parole officer? It could prevent another Synder type incident. He didn't learn his lesson about tresspassing because Rocky helped him get a slap on the wrist.
Fatty's too scared to do anything that'd involve cops again.

LucridMockery said:
And I supposed his conviction would certainly impede him getting work now. He blames the trolls for not getting work, but he (and his mom) did that all to him. He doesn't have a clean record either.
I don't really know too much about how his court case will/would affect his public record and his future.

I think people on this forum have talked about it before, like here: viewtopic.php?p=17021#p17021

LucridMockery said:
I didn't know it took him so long to get that degree. That means he only took him 12 semesters to get 72 credits. That's only taking 2 classes at a time. That would look really bad to an employer.
I think part of it might've been that he got kicked out for awhile, but I could be mistaken.
 
It's funny he wanted to go to his reunion. To tell his classmates what? That he hasn't done anything in the past 10+ years? Most people would be too embarrassed of that to show up if they were unemployed.

That's why I didn't go to mine. Everybody could read on Effin Facebook on how much I failed at life anyway.

Speaking of Chris' transcript, when he got suspended, well, all his classes and credits for that semester was dropped. So he was put on academic probation when he came back.
 
To those who say Chris could hold gainful employment, this is not the issue.
SSDI is non-taxable as it is a subsidy. 100% confirmed.
If Chris had outside income, he may be required to pay a percentage of said if he makes "x" dollars in a year; but since his income outside of SSDI is nil, this is moot.

What he chooses to do with these monies is entirely up to him. See those crazies on the street that always have a cheap bottle of booze, huffing glue or whatever to get by? Those are the other people on SSDI.

While he is not required to file taxes, since he has no income, some states do have tax credits for those in low income brackets; including those on SSDI.
That said, his finances are cared for by Barb, or no one at all.
If he comes into an inheritance, he will have to learn the hard way about taxes.
 
shutupman said:
To those who say Chris could hold gainful employment, this is not the issue.
The reason people are arguing about about whether or not Chris could hold gainful employment is because they're debating whether or not Chris deserves the tugboat, not about the tax thing.
 
^ Oh, I get that. But his diagnosis pretty much guarantees his acceptance, so I don't know why it's even being debated.
I'm a mental health advocate, so I guess I'm coming from the opposite side of the equation; but it's pretty cut and dry in this case.
 
I think the logical conclusion about employment is that he could hold some kind of menial job at least part-time, and also receive a supplementary tugboat. The two things combined would be enough for him to support himself and his being on a tugboat wouldn't be such a ridiculous farce because he would at least be taking some responsibility for trying to do something with his life. I'm all for giving help to people who actually try to help themselves.
 
It's a sticky issue.

It's also worth pointing out that any job Chris applies for will have many more applicants as well, so there are two outcomes.

1 Chris is judged at the same level as the others and doesn't get the job. Let's face it, he's going to be at the bottom of the pile.

2 Chris gets "bonus points" for clearly being special and get's the job ahead of others that really are more deserving than Chris.

The thing is with Chris is that he'll always have the tugboat to fall back on, where as everybody else doesn't. So at the end of the day, it could be argued that it's a lesser evil to have Chris receive government money for doing fuck all than for him to take up a job that would be better given to somebody else. Yeah it's not fair, but then so are many other things.
 
Quick answer: Not really. As a tugboat captain, he doesn't need to pay any Federal taxes because it's likely his SSI is below $25K a year.

However, after Barb is gone, things like property tax, trash hauling fees, and etc. are required if he holds onto 14BLC.
 
PolterBob said:
Quick answer: Not really. As a tugboat captain, he doesn't need to pay any Federal taxes because it's likely his SSI is below $25K a year.

However, after Barb is gone, things like property tax, trash hauling fees, and etc. are required if he holds onto 14BLC.


he's screwed.
 
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