Does Chris realise it was rape?

[robobobo]

Chris clearly rewrites reality into whatever best serves what he wants, he's been doing that forever now. So no, I'm certain that he's justified everything to himself to such an extent that it's just an act of selfless consideration for her and not a depraved act that he's doing solely to get off. She's totes into it, etc.
You can tell just by watching some of his old videos to various gal-pals where he pats himself on the back for all the nice things he's going to do for them before taking a creepy 180 into how they're going to fuck him. Sex for Chris is clearly transactional in nature; once he's done enough good boy things, he's earned the sex. Unfortunately for Barb, if there's a vagina in reach and the person isn't in a condition to forcefully deny him, once he's decided he's reached the threshold there's nobody around to tell him no.

 

[Joan Nyan]

Also, you may note what I have told you of my lady friend so far and in future; I kinda want you to figure it out for yourself, as also the few others I’ve confided strictly with this detail.

Everyone saying that he was hiding it from Null because he knew it was wrong missed this part. He wanted to make a fun riddle out of it, he thought Null would figure it out and then everyone would pat him on the back and congratulate him.

 

[Angry Shoes]

Slight powerlevel. im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking my mom. i would also like to say that i would never actually fuck my mom in real life (or look at incest porn involving real things) as that is elder abuse and the very idea of it happening irl makes me feel sick. this is a thing that has been there all my life, and i would consider it an intrinsic part of me that cannot be changed. i've tried to hide it, tried to quash the feelings and thoughts down but they dont go away, and if i try too hard to ignore them, it flips he other way and i just cant stop thinking about it, ending up in a vicious cycle of "stop thinking about it" "shit i cant stop i need to try harder" etc etc.
other people with paraphilias (things like necrophilia, paedophilia, zoophilia et al that are more than just a passing curiosity) ive talked to have the same problem of overthinking and self hatred over these feelings, and it frequently causes neuroses and suicidal thoughts. sexologists are actually starting to agree that these things - and general kinkiness - are legitimate sexual orientations, too. that doesnt mean we should be lobbying for [xyz]philia to be totally ok like homo/bisexuality, but it should be seen as something un-fixable, yet able to be handled safely.
the overwhelming majority of people with philias do not like the idea of acting upon these fantasies in real life - for example a lot of paedophiles despise themselves for even thinking of it, and often refuse to be near children for their safety. unfortunately its hard for people to find therapists willing to deal with these things, as they fear being ostracized and cast out with no help at all, so they turn to shota/lolicon. i don't actually see a problem with this, as it is not real, and in the majority of cases, is plenty to help keep the person on the straight and narrow. if a paedophile actively harms children (either through porn or otherwise) they are looked down upon by people who do actually understand that fantasy =/= reality. kind of how Chris Chan isnt representative of all trannies

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[MirnaMinkoff]

Chris at a minimum knew his behavior was wrong and sought to conceal the identity of his victim, even from his own doctor. Do the math.

He knew fucking his mom was wrong, but he convinced himself this was real romance and love because he was enjoying getting his dick wet (shudder) and he loved her. He was so satisfied with his new arrangement his autist brain decided he needed to find away to start bragging about it and share his excitement. He figured if he could convince a few “friends” his new mom-love quest was kosher then he could brag about it to the world. It was just a matter giving it the right spin to make everyone else realize how fucking his mom was totally cool and all about love.

I actually think the estrogen use maybe prevented this for awhile by lowering his tard sex drive. Once he stopped his estrogel and probably some anti-psych meds Barb was in danger.

 

[Ken_Penders69]

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Did Chris chan himself post that from a sock puppet account lol

 

[Stalfler]

Did Barbara realize?

barbara doesnt realise a whole lot, this is probably just more stimulus she doesnt understand

 

[Some JERK]

Slight powerlevel. im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking my mom.

Hello random.txt

 

[Slick]

Chris is unable to conceptualize that he is the one at fault for any situation. He'll probably apologize in court but it will be insincere. He's either going to convince himself that it wasn't rape or that rape is okay.

 

[Slick]

Slight powerlevel. im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking my mom.

 

[builtforcwc]

Chris's vivid description of the lead up makes me think he knows it was rape. He knew he was coercing her and pushed past that barrier - at this point he probably rationalises it as "she didn't want to do it the first couple of times but then she grew to like it because I'm so good at sex and now she's my girlfriend".

Chris has an awareness of consent, but he doesn't care about it and thinks if he steamrollers someone's boundaries he'll eventually get what he wants. He also knows on some level that this is wrong. See SheCameForCWC.JPG - he told Megan he drew porn of her to stop himself from raping her.

You might argue that "well if he doesn't think it's that bad, then he doesn't understand the gravity of his actions". That's not the case. Rapists generally do not think of their actions as that bad, they're just aware that they shouldn't do them and so try to cover them up.

This is the correct answer.

Chris is a sociopath but he has a rudimentary understanding of right and wrong. His own lack of morality and narcissistic myopathy leads him to believe that his actions are perfectly justifiable, but he's not insane, he knows that he had to at the very least coerce a senile Barb into these depraved acts. He mentions her saying no multiple times.

It's not that Chris thinks it's not rape; it's that he thinks it's fine for him to rape whoever he wants because what he wants is all that matters. He also lacks the empathy to understand the sheer amount of pain and discomfort he's causing Barb (post menopausal women are painfully dry and the vaginal muscles can collapse with too much stress among many other issues, so even if she wasn't howling and crying she was definitely not having a good time). So, in his mind, yes it's rape but so what, he got off and it's not like Barb died or anything so what's the fuss? I guarantee that beyond the layers of CPU goddess bs he tells himself that that's what he really believes.

Actual rapists know they're rapists, they just don't think rape is a bad thing. Hard to comprehend if you're a halfway decent human being, but that's just it.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Everyone saying that he was hiding it from Null because he knew it was wrong missed this part. He wanted to make a fun riddle out of it, he thought Null would figure it out and then everyone would pat him on the back and congratulate him.

Chris has typically done 1 of 2 things:

1. vehemently denied something (like being homosexual)
2. confessed to something arguably worse or cringier as he believed the truth was worse (prostitute)

So his sudden larping as The Riddler certainly goes against the grain of his previous behavior. I see what you're saying but at the same time I think his sneaky, vague hint dropping is probably indicative of the fact he knew his actions were wrong (or he knew society views it as wrong). He also acted as if he wanted to Null to figure it out, but did he expect him to do so? He basically clammed up after all this.

Even if he believed what he was doing wasn't wrong or that it was justified somehow (like rapists tend to think), he would still know 99% of society views it as wrong.

 

[Blucifer]

Wait, I just realised. There's a much more pressing question.
Did he wear the medallion while he did it?

 

[The Final Troondown]

Slight powerlevel. im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking my mom. i would also like to say that i would never actually fuck my mom in real life (or look at incest porn involving real things) as that is elder abuse and the very idea of it happening irl makes me feel sick. this is a thing that has been there all my life, and i would consider it an intrinsic part of me that cannot be changed. i've tried to hide it, tried to quash the feelings and thoughts down but they dont go away, and if i try too hard to ignore them, it flips he other way and i just cant stop thinking about it, ending up in a vicious cycle of "stop thinking about it" "shit i cant stop i need to try harder" etc etc.
other people with paraphilias (things like necrophilia, paedophilia, zoophilia et al that are more than just a passing curiosity) ive talked to have the same problem of overthinking and self hatred over these feelings, and it frequently causes neuroses and suicidal thoughts. sexologists are actually starting to agree that these things - and general kinkiness - are legitimate sexual orientations, too. that doesnt mean we should be lobbying for [xyz]philia to be totally ok like homo/bisexuality, but it should be seen as something un-fixable, yet able to be handled safely.
the overwhelming majority of people with philias do not like the idea of acting upon these fantasies in real life - for example a lot of paedophiles despise themselves for even thinking of it, and often refuse to be near children for their safety. unfortunately its hard for people to find therapists willing to deal with these things, as they fear being ostracized and cast out with no help at all, so they turn to shota/lolicon. i don't actually see a problem with this, as it is not real, and in the majority of cases, is plenty to help keep the person on the straight and narrow. if a paedophile actively harms children (either through porn or otherwise) they are looked down upon by people who do actually understand that fantasy =/= reality. kind of how Chris Chan isnt representative of all trannies

you aren't missing out on much, I fucked her and it was nothing special

 

[TV's Adam West]

Incest being illegal because it'll make "retard" babies is another example of abelism, eugenics, and is just another way for men to police women's bodies.

 

[bigmanbigslam]

honestly i think he is too far gone to realize the harm he has done to everybody in his life, the way he talked about it to Null and describes his new "gf" seems like he knows its taboo/weird but he doesnt see it as rape even though it is. He is so self absorbed that he managed to convince himself that he is famous and god's gift to us that he probably never even thought about it he was just happy that he got his dick wet. He is disgusting.

 

[Gullik]

Wait, I just realised. There's a much more pressing question.
Did he wear the medallion while he did it?

Staring at Sonichu's face while your autistic son is raping you.
This is truly the darkest time line.

 

[fromthebowelsofthebizzare]

He said Godbear gave him his blessing and he’s the goddess of Commodore 64’s or whatever. From what it sounded like in his texts fucker thought he was doing her a favor. I mean the fat sped ate his own mother out for christ’s sakes

 

[Ser Ciappelletto]

No, not at all. He has always described his incestuous thoughts about Barb as being something relatively normal that can be discussed in polite conversation and that others would find acceptable and sympathize with. In the leaked call, he also described getting with Barb as a "possible outcome" that he has always had in his mind. I believe completely that not only did Chris think it was consensual but he thought it was something normal and that mother - "daughter" relationships are common. Keep in mind this guy is basing his life experiences off of anime and incest porn/ fanfiction by his own word. He has always viewed life through the lens of media that is available to him and not through the normal means of socialization.

 

[anon_christorian]

He knows other people consider it rape. But I think he doesn't care. My guess is he's either using the dimensional merge to justify it in his own head, or he just straight up has no regard for other human beings. Probably both.

 

[wenttobermuda]

I doubt CWC has a very sophisticated understanding of consent. Does Barb at this point in her life?

From what Chris said, it doesn't sound like Barb consented to the unholy coupling with her son. And it is unclear that she was even legally unable to consent. We don't know what kind of condition Barb is in. The videos she's appeared in suggest she's a bit more functional and verbal than a vegetable, but it's also alleged that she plays up her confusion and senility for the camera. Still, Chris's admission emails acknowledge that she's a bit...slow in the mind...these days.

I don't think Barb's resistance, for what is was, interfered much with Chris's fantasy. He didn't recognize that he was raping her, or that she was vulnerable. He didn't think he was wrong. One of the most gruesome details in his little confession to Null, wherein he disclosed that he was fucking (but not who he was fucking)is how he explains that he thought a lot about what he is doing and it feels right to him.