Does Cole care about Chris?

[GFYS]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

The land value alone for 14BLC is worth a trip to Virginia for Coleslaw. He'd have to clear the house (and probably bulldoze it) to sell the property, and he shouldn't be too choosy about any offers that come in, but he could net a few $thousand or more out of the deal.

Though this assumes that there wasn't a lien on the house and property. Would anyone here be shocked to learn there's a second (or third, or fourth) mortgage on the house? Weston Chandlers. 'Nuff said.

 

[José Mourinho]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Nope. Cole would rather continue making movie reviews than taking care of Chris.

Not to mention Chris whines to Cole on Twitter about helping her and insulting him, so I don't think Cole should help Chris if Chris is rude to him in the first place.

@colesmithey Hey! You ought to be over here putting bandages on our Mom's holey buttocks. 18:29 UTC
@colesmithey BTW, Happy 50th Birthday; your mother is about 72; y'all ought to celebrate together. 18:30 UTC
@colesmithey please either come over to VA and visit, or send me your current home address, so she can at least... 18:31 UTC
@colesmithey ...write to you, PLEASE!!! 18:31 UTC
@colesmithey You Ought to be Here, helping our mother, so I can have my freedom to find MY Sweetheart. 18:33 UTC
@colesmithey Hey, Old Timer, you're just starting; why not get some notes from another (me or our mom). 18:49 UTC
@colesmithey You think you're grand with your mental and physical handicaps... 18:59 UTC
@colesmithey Me? Mental, Physical, AND Wrongfully possessing the WORST Internet Reputation in all of History! 19:00 UTC
@colesmithey Wrongfully handicuffed 5 times, spent over 12 hours, ALONE in solitary confining Jail... 19:02 UTC
@colesmithey ...with our own mother sharing the same jail time in another cell, cell blocks away! 19:02 UTC
@colesmithey I have more mental agonies for a high functioning autistic person, than you could ever imagine! 19:03 UTC

 

[Henry Bemis]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

I think after holding his questions of paternity in suspense for a fucking PaRappa the Rapper contest, Cole doesn't care for Chris in anything but an academic sense.

 

[Zim]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

I'm just mostly parroting what everyone else says. If I were him I'd just tell people they had the wrong Chandler. I guess it just depends on his opinion of them at the time. Anything at that property would be more trouble then it was worth if Cole and Co. are reasonably well off. I'd just let the manbaby have the place personally. To sell it would be a pain in the butt mostly because you'd have to deal with Chris.

 

[A-№1]

Though this assumes that there wasn't a lien on the house and property. Would anyone here be shocked to learn there's a second (or third, or fourth) mortgage on the house? Weston Chandlers. 'Nuff said.

A very valid point, but I can't find any record of a lien or mortgage from the greene county clerk's office. That doesn't necessarily mean there isn't an outstanding loan against the house, but I haven't found one yet. I haven't bothered looking into any contractors board liens because it's pretty obvious no licensed contractor has been on the property for decades.

I tend to believe the Chandlers own the property free and clear, though, as they (well Bob) had plenty of time to pay it off. In fact I think that's probably why they choose to live there; a large mortgage payment would have sent them scuttling somewhere else. As to second etc. mortgages: Chris and Barb are the sort of people that credit cards prey upon but loan officers flee from. There is no way they'd be approved without a full appraisal, and I don't see that going well for them (or them even allowing a bank appraiser into the property). They'd just demand the money site unseen and throw a tantrum when it's denied.

Interestingly the county clerk's office and several real estate appraiser give a land value for 14BLC of more than $60k to $70k. That's a quite lot more than I had guessed, and Cole could walk away from Virginia with anywhere from $10k to $30k or more (depending on who else comes out of the woodwork) for a quick trip to Virginia and a little paperwork after Barb kicks it. I can definitely see him doing that.

Coleslaw is the sibling we know the most, but what about Bob's other children? Will they try to get on the property (and Chris, I guess) after she kicks the bucket?

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how they'd have any legal claim to any of the Chandler "estate". Bob either left everything to Barb in his will, or didn't have a will at all, in which case I'd think it would just become hers by default as his next of kin.

If Barb was the sole inheritor of Bobs estate (pretty sure she way) and has her own will (pretty sure she doesn't), then whatever her will says goes, and Bob's other kids are SOL if she so deems it. If there isn't a will (very likely) it gets more sticky, but preference would be given to the descendants of the current sole owner (Barb). In that case Bob's kids could make a play for a share, but their lawyers would get most of it.

This kind of sucks for Bob's other kids, but golddiggers do this shit all the time. I have a relative who's losing out in an estate worth several million because her dad left it all to his golddigger new wife with a bequest in his will to include his own kids when she dies. The golddigger ignored that bequest in her own will (which she as sole inheritor and new sole owner could do) and left everything to her own worthless illegitimate deadbeat son. They were only married for about three years. My relative isn't even getting to keep her dad's book collection.

Bob's other kids only real chance is if Cole heads down to Virginia to administer the estate disbursement and acts upstandingly towards them. I honestly don't know how likely that is.

He is not a cold hearted monster,

You're right. He's a lazy, incompetent, self centered, indifferent monster. Big difference. He wouldn't intentionally hurt those dogs, true, but it wouldn't occur to him to not unintentionally harm them.

and for all we know, those beagles are his only real joy in life,

Unless they connect to a television and play playstation games, that would be a no.

and he takes care of them the best that he can.

Does anyone really think "the best Chris can" is somehow good enough? And that's assuming Chris even tries the best he can for those poor animals.

I know I'm probably getting close to A-Logging in this post, but damn I feel sorry for those poor dogs. And I also feel sorry for the Chandler cats. I feel sorry for just about anything that somehow finds itself at the mercy of the Chandler's indifferent attention. I'd almost go as far as saying I feel sorry for the Chandler cockroaches, but I suspect they are the happiest, most contented cockroaches on the planet. Even now they're probably lounging around 14BLC, fat and happy, wistfully dreaming of getting another delicious taste of Bob.

 

[Some JERK]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Why would Cole do anything to help? Every single resident of 14BLC is right where Cole wanted them to be:

-Chris, his idiot embarrassment of a half brother is stuck under Barbs thumb, far away from Cole's life and new marriage.
-Barb is stuck in her dump rotting away with no friends.
-That fuck Bob dropped.

Seems like everything's coming up Cole

 

[CatParty]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

cole doesn't need to care and he doesn't. i don't know why we're worried if he does.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Lets have hope and not assume Chris would not starve his dogs. He is not a cold hearted monster, and for all we know, those beagles are his only real joy in life, and he takes care of them the best that he can.

He has a huge yard but the dogs piss and shit inside. He never housebroke them and he has NOTHING to do all day. He'd just has to go outside regularly with the dogs and give them positive reinforcement when they do their business. This example alone proves he's not doing the best he can because we know he can walk and operate most doors.

As for possibly being his greatest joy in life... he's taken more photos of his lego highschool than his dogs. The lego shots have better lighting too.

 

[Smokedaddy]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Though this assumes that there wasn't a lien on the house and property. Would anyone here be shocked to learn there's a second (or third, or fourth) mortgage on the house? Weston Chandlers. 'Nuff said.

I'd be shocked to learn there's a first mortgage. Bob bought the house more than 30 years ago, so it'd be paid off by now. If one was still somehow extant, it was almost certainly in Bob's name and would have been paid off when he died. If Barb had a share in it, it'll be paid off when she dies. They don't give you a nickel for a first without mortgage insurance. If you don't have a policy, the bank is happy to sell you one, and you don't have any choice in the matter. The mortgage holder (i.e. the bank) is the beneficiary, so if you croak they still get their money, and don't care who winds up with the property.

Insurance is just one of the many tasty ingredients in the stew of mind-blowing stress and horror called "closing escrow."

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Coleslaw is the sibling we know the most, but what about Bob's other children? Will they try to get on the property (and Chris, I guess) after she kicks the bucket?

They want nothing to do with 14 B-Court's inhabitants, same as all the other extended family.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

I'd be shocked to learn there's a first mortgage.

Our insiders are apparently not sure one way or the other on this, even though as you say, the mortgage should be long gone. It's very possible that Barb re-mortgaged the place to the hilt in order to fuel the hoard, or took out a HELOC under false pretenses. Wheelin' and dealin'!

People also just do stupid inexplicable things sometimes. A late relative of mine refinanced a mortgage with just a couple years left to go, at a very good rate, into a new 30-year mortgage at an atrocious rate befitting her 400 credit score. Why? Autism I guess.

 

[CalmMyTits]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

He was out of the house by the time Chris was born so they never had a close relationship. One could say that they got along ok when Chris was little when they visited, but remember, Chris was a terrible, spoiled child. Didn't Chris mention a trip to California once? I can easily imagine he whined a lot and grated on Cole's nerves then, and he only became more insufferable when they talked again around Chris' 18th birthday or whenever it was that Cole asked Chris about his father and Chris, instead of helping his brother, begged for votes.

 

[A-№1]

Why would Coleslaw do anything to help? Every single resident of 14BLC is right where Coleslaw wanted them to be:

-Chris, his idiot embarrassment of a half brother is stuck under Barbs thumb, far away from Coleslaw's life and new marriage.
-Barb is stuck in her dump rotting away with no friends.
-That fuck Bob dropped.

Seems like everything's coming up Coleslaw

Not to mention he has an easy $30k or more coming to him when Barb kicks it.

Coleslaw doesn't need to care and he doesn't. i don't know why we're worried if he does.

Contemplating the Cole factor is really idle speculation on just how fucked Chris is when Barb dies. Nothing more.

They want nothing to do with 14 B-Court's inhabitants, same as all the other extended family.

But would they want anything to do with a couple thousand in easy inheritance money?

What exactly is the dollar threshold for having to be anywhere near Chris?

Edit:

Insurance is just one of the many tasty ingredients in the stew of mind-blowing stress and horror called "closing escrow."

Yer right there. Escrow sucks.

But it's a LOT less stressful when it's not your own home your closing and you're only going to benefit in the end. It's still a pain in the butt, but it's more like a job than a struggle.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

^Not to be rude, but there is an edit button. No need for the triple-posting.

Back on topic, I guess it would depend on who the house goes to when Barb passes. I'm not so sure she has any kind of will or anything. I don't know what kind of value Cole could get out of that house that wouldn't necessitate a major clean-up operation first, and while that may result in a net profit financially, it's still a lot of time, and that's something Cole might not want to spend.

 

[drmccoy]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Cole Smithey could give two shits about Barb, Chris or 14 BLC. He's living in NYC, living his dream with a wife and a surrogate family he loves. He hasn't talked to Barb for many years, I would be willing to bet 13 years. Right now he's bombarded with fags to remind him that his waste of a brother has become "internet famous".

I doubt there's 30k ready for him. I would bet he's essentially severed all contact and that's the way he likes it. He won't know when Barb dies and frankly I'd be shocked if he bothered to fly down.

Did he do anything for Bob's funeral?

 

[CatParty]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

he is definitely not in a will. not like there's really anything of value. this is assuming she can be bothered to even write one.

 

[MrTroll]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

he is definitely not in a will. not like there's really anything of value. this is assuming she can be bothered to even write one.

The only way I can see her having a will is if Bob insisted that she draw one up at the same time he did.

 

[A-№1]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

^Not to be rude, but there is an edit button. No need for the triple-posting.

Yeah, that kind of bothered me too, but I couldn't find a way to delete the second two posts after combining them. It's my own fault for being lazy and not reading the full thread before replying to a single post.

Back on topic, I guess it would depend on who the house goes to when Barb passes. I'm not so sure she has any kind of will or anything. I don't know what kind of value Coleslaw could get out of that house that wouldn't necessitate a major clean-up operation first, and while that may result in a net profit financially, it's still a lot of time, and that's something Coleslaw might not want to spend.

If she has a will, and it hasn't rotted into the hoard, and someone manages to find it, then what's in the will goes. This would almost assuredly mean Chris gets it all, at least until the state takes it over for unpaid taxes or his group home upkeep or one of a dozen other reasons. In this case Cole might still act as executor, but he'd probably refuse, and I wouldn't blame him for that. Edit: Then again, executors can draw a salary from the estate for their services, so there would still be something to entice him down to Virginia, though probably not enough.

If there isn't a will, and Cole bothers to be appointed administrator (because it sure as shootin' ain't gonna be Chris), then what Cole says goes, so long as it's impartial enough that it's unchallengeable in court. Cole does not need to take Chris' exceptional individual status into account in his decisions. Chris won't like this one bit and may very well end up giving all his share of the Chandler pile to some lawyer to find out.

I don't know the exact rates in Virginia, but if they're anything like they are around me the dumpster and bulldoze route for a quick sale should be $2k for the dumpster and haulage, $5k for demolition, and $1k for a demolition permit (assuming 14BLC isn't a designated historic site). A quick sale should net $50k for the cleared lot, more if the demo crew is careful to leave the service lines intact. After all the costs and split two ways he should get $20k, minimum. And if a miracle happens and Chris' somehow manages to swing a mortgage to pay Cole off for his half of the estate so Chris can continue living there (until it's taken from him), Cole could get $80k or more.

Would Cole put in the effort required for $20k? I think so. I think he believes Barb owes hims something, so I think he'd do it for much less than that and be indifferent to Chris' plight.

 

[Some JERK]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

Chris is officially mentally handicapped. Cole could easily contest any will that put him in charge of barbs estate.

That "autism card" works both ways.

 

[SoniBlu]

Re: Does Coleslaw care about Chris?

You have to wonder if at any point Barb has come to regret pushing away the one son who managed to keep his life together. She must realize he could have been a huge help after Bob's passing (or at least more helpful than Chris, anyway).