Does the "Woke Right" Exist? - Dedicated Containment Thread

[WelperHelper99]

The russian communists killed a lot of borzois because they were seen as "nobility dogs" you know. As if you needed another reason to hate communists. Literally puppy killing to own the chuds.

Also yeah this whole "Woke Right" is just Lindsay and friends being afraid to face the truth that the 1990s is over, has been over for decades, will never come back and even if it did come back they would be unable to deal with the issues that they faced back then rising again and leading to woke left bullshit rising. As someone said already "they are liberals who just want the revolution to stop, not actually undo or go back".

This. The Woke Right doesn't exist. It is a figment of peoples fears and memories of days long past. Even when it existed, it was in response to the utter lunacy of the 70's, with NAMBLA out in force and child porn being traded over the counter. Those conditions don't exist today to prompt such a backlash. The closest thing would be trannies, but even then, that issue is solving itself at this point.

James Lyndsay is just butthurt he created this extreme leftist woke world by supporting the left with his militant atheist stance. He was a fucking pawn and got played as such. By removing religion from the zeitgeist, decadence and gender ideology took its place. He created the madness. He wallowed with pigs and now he complains about being filthy. Pathetic.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

I don't understand this stunt. Marx's ideology is over a century old. Woke ideology is not orthodox Marxism, it's a severely deformed offshoot of post-Marxist and neo-Marxist schools of thought. Calling fashy goys "woke" because they agree with parts of Marx's critique of the liberal ruling class from 150 years ago doesn't make the point he seems to think it does.

In order to call this proof of a "woke" right, you would need to reframe some queer theory or critical race theory tract, not the communist manifesto. When Lyndsey says "there's nothing more definitively woke than the Communist Manifesto", I think he's outting himself as an ideologue who is lumping everyone he vehemently disagrees with into one bin, when there are extreme divisions between them in reality.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

"My fellow golden retrievers..."

An actual borzoi would rather lay around after a quick zoom around the yard. The goldens are the ones telling shelters to allow infinity pitbulls.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

"there's nothing more definitively woke than the Communist Manifesto", I think he's outting himself as an ideologue who is lumping everyone he vehemently disagrees with into one bin, when there are extreme divisions between them in reality.

I think he's making the point that certain rightists have adopted the egalitarian envy rhetoric that's common among Marxists.. That's not really something you can remove from Marxism because of its strange obsession with atheism and class i.g. material vanity.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Depends on the definition of woke, but I'd argue RINOs are the woke right, with them championing the ideas of diversity and inclusion to the detriment of everything else.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

I think he's making the point that certain rightists have adopted the egalitarian envy rhetoric that's common among Marxists.. That's not really something you can remove from Marxism because of its strange obsession with atheism and class i.g. material vanity.

I don't think this is true. Disdain for elites is not always the same thing as envy of them. I have not seen any kind of "leveling" mindset amongst the kind of online rights he's talking about. They're more than willing to embrace rich, powerful people and inequality, as long as the empowered people have some loyalty to their cultural system.

 

[Ser Prize]

James Lindsay did some useful work several years back exposing the utter insanity of the Left with his grievance paper publication efforts, but unfortunately at his core is a Liberal who just wanted the revolution to stop with him

He sees anything genuinely conservative/rightist/Christian as his true enemy, and has recently gone off the deep end trying to concoct a schizophrenic theory that will let him cast everyone to the right of Bill Clinton into the abyss and assume his rightful place atop the 90s Liberal Hegemony.

If you want a deep dive into the "Woke Right" stuff, Auron Macintyre did a full length video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT8w-vmEozc

This, it's just Lindsay panicking that any actual right wing push is being done. He wants everything to stop the moment Obama got elected in 2008, as if the process that led to his preferred shade of liberalism won't keep on going.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Disdain for elites is not always the same thing as envy of them.

This distinction almost never plays out, in practice, that it feels like a distinction without difference.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

There's been some discussion lately about an alleged "Woke Right" that is just as bad, if not worse than the Woke Left.
Conversation about a supposed "Woke Right" erupted after James Lindsay posted 'A Communist Manifesto for Christian Nationalists: Testing the Woke Right' (archive) where he described how he published an article titled 'The Liberal Consensus and the New Christian Right' (archive), based on the communist manifesto that swapped out the term Bourgeois with Liberal and proletariat with Christian.

This has led to a re-kindling of decade old debates between Christians and Non-Christians regarding the Christian right's moral stances on things regarding violence, sex, and degeneracy (especially in media), if those stances are "Woke", and if they should be forced to sit in the cuck chair while OnlyFans and gender transition drug dealer become acceptable career paths.

The wokes are not commies, real commies consider the wokes to be a bunch of rich yuppies with a victim complex, and wokes dont like commieshit either they want to keep consuming shit and living large, what he is describing is fascism which is conservatism with socialist economics, choyna is basically more fascist than commie now

I think this idea of the "woke right" is pushed by centrists who worship horseshoes and the revolutionary stance of "both sides are dumb".

Its also pushed by lefties because the word woke is now le bad, lefties also pushed that anti-sjws were as bad as sjws when "sjw" also went out of style

It has some unfortunately, they tend to pop up around video games and media. Every time we get some good games they show up claiming that its porn made for kids, or murder simulators.

The neoconservatards could have started the antiwoke pushback years earlier by supporting gaymergays but when that shit happened they were like "lol neeeerds!" when it was the literally canary in the coalmine for all this niggardry, they are retards with no long term vision and now you see them clapping as mongoloids because the jizzraelis are bombing the sandniggers as if thats not gonna lead to a bazillion of camel jokeys going west to rape them

no self respecting person would describe themselves as one.

Nigger plenty of normalfag women still claim to be feminists

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I view Right-wingers now as I view Social Justice Warriors back in 2017. All these Trump supporters sperging at me when I called him the Chris Chan of presidents feels like the time leftists would sperg at me for saying "Nigger". The farms has become a /pol/ dominated website where the people who came from there would demand the site to themselves while crying about anyone who says anything critical about Trump, Assad, Russia, etc. It was supposed to be a politically neutral site. Crying leftist social justice warriors is a minority almost completely dried up.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

The Fundies were correct about the government and media being full of actual occultist pedophiles.

Maybe they were restrictive, but they were literally correct about the consequences of progressive ideas being pushed to children.

This both sides idea is always pulled out whenever progressives lose a little steam.

 

[JohnnyG]

The wokes are not commies, real commies consider the wokes to be a bunch of rich yuppies with a victim complex, and wokes dont like commieshit either they want to keep consuming shit and living large, what he is describing is fascism which is conservatism with socialist economics, choyna is basically more fascist than commie now

If you're going to say "not real communism" because it doesn't follow the Marxist-Leninist doctrines to the letter (most conspicuously by worshipping sexual degenerates instead of sending them to camps, as is communist tradition), that's fine, but at least be consistent with "fashism", which is one particular flavor of authoritarianism that existed in 1.5 countries for a unique decade in history.

The term Gay Race Communism seems about as good as any I've heard to encapsulate modern Leftism. Most people readily grasp the oppressor-oppressed lens being expanded from class warfare and to race and sexuality, with the Left attacking virtually every hierarchy as oppressive, and siding with chaos over order.

The Fundies were correct about the government and media being full of actual occultist pedophiles.
Maybe they were restrictive, but they were literally correct about the consequences of progressive ideas being pushed to children.

As a former lolbertarian, I acknowledge that we all owe our most Bible-thumping uncles an eternal apology. Fundies of the 90s were not merely correct in their slippery slope doomsaying...they were woefully understating what would happen.

They said gay propaganda in media would lead to paedophilia, the breakdown of the family, and perhaps bestiality. Not one of them would've said that we'd be chemically sterilizing and surgically castrating children, broadcasting paederasts twerking with children on national TV, lobbying to have their zoophilia represented in media and given protected legal status, or bragging to the world about how empowering their abortions were.

 

[Jex]

I’m summoning the archangel Michael as I type this. Konstantin Kisin and James Lindsay fear me.

 

[WelperHelper99]

As a former lolbertarian, I acknowledge that we all owe our most Bible-thumping uncles an eternal apology. Fundies of the 90s were not merely correct in their slippery slope doomsaying...they were woefully understating what would happen.

They said gay propaganda in media would lead to paedophilia, the breakdown of the family, and perhaps bestiality. Not one of them would've said that we'd be chemically sterilizing and surgically castrating children, broadcasting paederasts twerking with children on national TV, lobbying to have their zoophilia represented in media and given protected legal status, or bragging to the world about how empowering their abortions were.

They called it then because they had seen it in the past. NAMBLA was still very much a thing in the 90s. The fundies were in direct response to gay pedophiles marching through the street. We're they correct in everything? No. But there was a lot they were. And still are. It's why I'm still religious. I'm not going to be on the same side as the gay dog fucking kid diddlers that abort 27 children per minute.

 

[Stoneheart]

how is this news? uhh we are not your granddads right, we still love kikes and nogs.
gay is okay as long as you go for kids and dont shit in womans bathrooms-

The whole debate about woman sports is retarded woke on woke masturbation.
there is just no good argument for professional woman sports.
the woke right trying to keep a system for loser while the woke left is trying to cripple woman.

 

[Sho'nuff]

The issue is you can't really define many specifically right leaning intricacies as woke, as woke is almost completely understood as a left leaning ideal. If I was forced to draw a parallel, I'd say hard-core fundamental Christians. Specifically the humans walked with dinosaurs museum style people. I'm not even comfortable with that parallel either. Faith is an entirely different vehicle for hard-core Christians vs the typical wokes' DragonBall z and complete lack of evidence for Niribu and the bald black guy who made white people. One is a 5000+ year old framework which has many different interpretations and the more hard-core position of belief in God so the earth must only be 5000 year old is intertwined. Woke folk just take some shit their classmate made up in middle school and run with it and build their entire personality around it, to their and others detriment. The worst hard-core Christians do is make their dinosaur walked with humans museum and enjoy it and don't make believing in it a prerequisite to having a good interaction with them. Its why people with these kinds of beliefs get into positions of power, they are still nice people and treat you with respect even if you don't share their beliefs. The worst they are guilty of is believing in something that is intertwined with their belief in God. In their eyes belief in God is all they need to hold on to their human dinosaur museum. It's dogmatic reality.

 

[Terrorist]

James Lyndsay is just butthurt

“Woke right” makes the most sense as a code word for “people who call James Lindsay a cuck on Twitter”. Lindsay can sperg about Gnosticism or whatever all he wants, but that’s what the term really means underneath it all. It’s as simple as he’s a fat faggot with bitch tits.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

This distinction almost never plays out, in practice, that it feels like a distinction without difference.

That is not true. Take the actual Nazis and Fascists as examples, or even the Bonapartistes of revolutionary France and the Caesarians of the late Roman Republic. There have been many radical political movements which disdained the elite of their day not because they wanted to level society and eliminate the elite, but because they wanted to supplant them or force them into alignment with their beliefs. The Nazis purged the party members who wanted to liquidate the elites in the Night of the Long Knives. They then co-opted the German elite and made their institutions subservient to the party. Envy is a not a good way to describe what motivates this process.

The farms has become a /pol/ dominated website

Have you been on pol in the past 5 years? Trump supporters are a minority there. Outside the shills and trannies, most of the remaining oldfags countersignal Trump incessantly because he's pro-Israel and pro-Jewish.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

That is not true. Take the actual Nazis and Fascists as examples, or even the Bonapartistes of revolutionary France and the Caesarians of the late Roman Republic. There have been many radical political movements which disdained the elite of their day not because they wanted to level society and eliminate the elite, but because they wanted to supplant them or force them into alignment with their beliefs. The Nazis purged the party members who wanted to liquidate the elites in the Night of the Long Knives. They then co-opted the German elite and made their institutions subservient to the party. Envy is a not a good way to describe what motivates this process.

Have you been on pol in the past 5 years? Trump supporters are a minority there. Outside the shills and trannies, most of the remaining oldfags countersignal Trump incessantly because he's pro-Israel and pro-Jewish.

No. I wasn't on /pol/. I didn't realize it changed this much.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

It's crazy. The site is trash now. There's a sea of bots and shills. I kid you not, there was more Kamala shill posts in the weeks before election day than all other posts combined. Election day was funny, but it didn't even take 3 days for the new programming to go out and it's straight back to shilling. Most of the real posters left there are completely blackpilled.