Doing it Amish Style - They've been living without electricity and they're fine. How do they do it?

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How the Amish function without electricity
Probably better than you function with it.
Let me introduce our main characters, the Swartzentruber Amish.
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While some sections of Amish can use some levels of technology, the Swartzentruber use pretty much none.
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And yet,
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(Source) In 100 years, the west will be controlled by the mormons, the east the amish, and they will finally answer the question: who wears the sillier clothing?
So clearly, what they're doing works well enough that people aren't too miserable to have children.

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You'll notice on that list above, there's "propane gas". This is because many groups of Amish use appliances that are very similar to ours, but modified to run on propane.
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Most importantly, propane refrigerators/freezers. Again, while the Swartzentruber Amish don't use these, some of the more liberal sects do.

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All the lighting in their homes is done with kerosene lamps.
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Sewing is largely done on these foot-powered sewing machines, or by hand.
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Cooking is done on a wood-fired oven. This is also used to heat up the house, and you'll find wood-fired ovens in post large rooms of their houses.
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Or on this, a kerosene range, often used during the summer when they don't want to heat up the house with the oven.
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Dishes are washed in this, known as a "dry sink". They have one tote that they fill with hot soapy water (from a mudroom: remember, their houses don't have plumbing) and then bring back in. They scrub their dishes in the tote filled with water, then set them to the side to dry.
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All their clocks are windup, they cannot have a battery in them. Remember, they don't have phones, so clocks like these are their only consistent way of telling time.
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How do they keep food cold? Ice houses. These are thermally insulated buildings that they fill with ice they harvest over the winter, and haul back. Sometimes they'll use normal refigerators, and just leave them unplugged but filled up with ice.
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Horse power! Everything we do with a vehicle, they do with horses. The horses in the first two images are "draft" horses, heavy-boned horses designed to do heavy work. The horse in the far right image is likely a warmblood of some sort, a more middle ground horse that trades some power for speed.
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Outhouses. No indoor toilets for these Amish, it's outdoor toilets all day every day.
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This somewhat terrifying image is how the Swartzentruber Amish clean themselves. No showers, only baths, and usually only about once a week. Water must be heated on the stove (that burned structure in the back) before being poured into the tub to clean yourself.

That's all the relevant changes I can think of, please ask questions if there's any I missed! And if this all looks gnarly, you're right. We're quite spoiled by modern technology. Becoming self-sustainable is going to require some sacrifices.
 
The hardest thing about going Amish, especially among Kiwi's would be disconnecting from the circles that technology allows. It is more stressful to be aware of how the outer world operates and then give up the illusion of influence we have just to live out Uncle Ted's dream. For similar reasons these communities focus on personal property and relationships, which are the things people find romantic about the "simple" life.

That being said, if a massive portion of the world was wiped out or made irrelevant by some horrible decision or act of God then it might be kind of fun to play frontiersman with a small community before turning to alcohol and holistic drugs for entertainment.
 
The main issue with the Amish is that their society can only exist within a larger society which permits them the choice to live this way.

The simple life and technology need a functional marriage.

Their high birth rates are from lack of porn.
I dunno man, personally I think that the Amish are basically modern Pharisees but you're seriously chastising a culture of functional marriage and porn-free fertility?
Sounds pretty based to me
 
functional marriage and porn-free fertility?
Nigger, the Amish are fucking rife with physical and sexual abuse of women and children. The abusers receive no punishments from the community, and the victims are forced to forgive them and act as if the 'sin' never occured. Fuck the Amish.
 
Nigger, the Amish are fucking rife with physical and sexual abuse of women and children. The abusers receive no punishments from the community, and the victims are forced to forgive them and act as if the 'sin' never occured. Fuck the Amish.
Oy vey, one of THOSE communities I see...

Well, great leader just used bad examples of criticizing them in my opinion. Ah well.
 
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Nah the amish lifestyle is completely acceptable the only problem with the basic concept is they are spiritually unsound and got lazy so they would have to get used to not having high end tools from outside again

Nigger, the Amish are fucking rife with physical and sexual abuse of women and children. The abusers receive no punishments from the community, and the victims are forced to forgive them and act as if the 'sin' never occured. Fuck the Amish.
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Pffftt. Why not Conservative Mennonite, where you get the benefits of technology (plumbing, heating, electric light, refrigeration, cars/trucks/tractors/etc) but also plain dress, simple living, a focus on community and family, and separation from the wider world?
 
Pffftt. Why not Conservative Mennonite, where you get the benefits of technology (plumbing, heating, electric light, refrigeration, cars/trucks/tractors/etc) but also plain dress, simple living, and a focus on community and family?
Drink! One of my favorite people had a Mennonite upbringing. Her name is *radio static* oh, bother. Guess you'll never know.
 
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The main issue with the Amish is that their society can only exist within a larger society which permits them the choice to live this way.

The simple life and technology need a functional marriage.

Their high birth rates are from lack of porn.
I don't really believe that Amish men don't watch porn, I would be extremely surprised if they don't at least have magazines or even flat out secret smartphones for it.

Also the high amounts of (marital) rape/incest, no birth control and no abortions probably has more to do with the high birth rates. They have a lot of issues with birth defects and I don't think it's just because of their small gene pool and incest but also because their women can't really say "Ok, I'm 37 and I had 8 kids that's it for me, no more." they will continue having kids until menopause unless the husband is sensible enough to stop climbing them.

Nigger, the Amish are fucking rife with physical and sexual abuse of women and children. The abusers receive no punishments from the community, and the victims are forced to forgive them and act as if the 'sin' never occured. Fuck the Amish.
Yeah that's what I heard as well.
 
Man fuck the Amish I go to the store and they're always there in packs buying shit like entire carts of peanut butter. They also genuinely hate you and will go out of there way to avoid "Englishmen."
 
The main issue with the Amish is that their society can only exist within a larger society which permits them the choice to live this way.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Larping like it's 1800 is only possible because America has the rest of the world by the balls due in no small part to technological advancements. How would the Amish deal with drone warfare? How would they deal with Chinese facial recognition optics? Would they be good statesmen to deal with the rest of the world? Somehow I doubt it. It's always seemed a bit churlish to reject the very things that allow you to continue to pretend like nothing has changed, since those things are the only reason why you're safe enough to do so in the first place.
 
Remember this is the culture where they send their young men out into the world at 16 to seek their fortune, and then when they return the elders decide that some harmless thing such as driving a car or going to the cinema was a great sin and they get shunned by the community.

Or maybe I've bought into stereotypes...
 
All groups of Amish are different, but the abhorrent behavior exists among most of the groups. True, they do have some good carpentry and jam and shit. Unfortunately they're not what most of you think when you imagine the Amish.
The Amish run enormous puppy mills and take abhorrent care of all of their animals. They not only let their animals wallow in their own shit up to their knees, the men also shit and piss in the barns because it fills the outhouse more slowly. Many overuse and mistreat their horses to the point of physical breakdown and then sell them to slaughter. I know Amish who have left rotting corpses of animals all over their property, including dogs they shot because they were sick of taking care of it. Amish-owned animals live in hell.
Part of this may be because they aren't allowed to get above an eighth grade education. That includes their teachers as well. The education they get includes how to speak English since they only speak gutter German at home. The men often work with "the English" and when doing so many go against all the tenets of their community - using phones, drinking, driving cars, etc. As long as the bishop doesn't find out you're fine and even if he does you'll probably just be shunned.
Shunning is a more severe Amish punishment where literally nobody in your community speaks to you and it's not applied equally. Preteen girl gets molested by a member of the church and it's found out? He is shunned for a few weeks but she'll be shunned for months if not moved to another community. But the Amish do have therapy, where you go to a house with Amish (eighth grade educated) "doctors" where you'll pray a lot.
They're nice to your face but they're actually evil. If you're English they hate you. They'll take your money and ask you for rides to Walmart and the hospital when their wife is giving birth but we are basically demons to them. Oh and they litter fucking everywhere and just leave piles of rusty metal and buckets of their own shit around.
I hate the fuckin Amish.
 
The only reason the Amish aren't more universally disliked is because they have the decency to isolate themselves.

Their high birth rates are from lack of porn.
Their high birthrates are from the need for free labor on their farms. The men treat their wives and children like slaves.
 
Their whole "Year with the English" thing where they send their kids once they are close to being adults to spend a while with the non-Amish and see the other side is honestly genius. Instead of trying to fight human nature and control teenagers they give them a designated rebelion moment where they can just ignore most of the rules and try out different things while avoiding the clash between parents and tradition vs. children and change.

Most of them end up coming back to the community which is a good sign it works.
 
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