Opinion Doing your own research is a good way to end up being wrong - Google is a liar and full of lies

The internet has been a huge boon for the accessibility of information. There are very few barriers to consuming classic literature or detailed scientific analyses or catalogues of news reports. There is also an exorbitant amount of garbage information, of course, and an entire universe of people who say stuff that they think will get people to click links that will earn themselves money.

While confidence in American institutions has been in decline for some time, it’s not hard to imagine how the economic incentives of the internet contribute. There is an outsize appetite for derogatory, counterintuitive or anti-institutional assessments of the world around us. This is in part because alleged scandals are interesting and in part because Americans like to view themselves as independent analysts of the world around us.

The result is that there is both a supply and a demand for nonsense or appealingly framed errors. Americans who have little trust in the system can easily find something to reinforce their skepticism. They often do.

This month, Nieman Lab’s Josh Benton reported on research released last year that showed how people “doing their own research” on the internet often led them to gain more confidence in untrue information. The paper, titled “Online searches to evaluate misinformation can increase its perceived veracity,” was written by researchers from the University of Central Florida, New York University and Stanford. Their conclusions were straightforward.

“Although conventional wisdom suggests that searching online when evaluating misinformation would reduce belief in it, there is little empirical evidence to evaluate this claim,” the authors wrote. Instead, they continued: “We present consistent evidence that online search to evaluate the truthfulness of false news articles actually increases the probability of believing them.”

Later, they summarize the process, “When individuals search online about misinformation, they are more likely to be exposed to lower-quality information than when individuals search about true news” and “those who are exposed to low-quality information are more likely to believe false/misleading news stories to be true relative to those who are not.” Look for info; see bad info; accept the bad info.

The mechanism is explored at length but, in short, false claims or other rumors often generate fewer hits on Google, meaning searchers are more likely to encounter unreliable information that aligns with their assumptions. (The paper is dense; Benton’s summary is useful.)

There’s probably another factor at play, one not measured in the research: people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible.

The same thing happens on cable television. Channels like One America News, which I described shortly after the 2020 election as a “pro-Trump video channel offered with a cable-news-like aesthetic,” elevated numerous baseless claims before being booted from major cable-news systems. Its programming often appeared to be the equivalent of taking Alex Jones’s “Infowars” but setting it in a local television news studio. Doing your own research might lead you to reputable-looking sources that are anything but.

Journalist Michael Hobbes recently remarked upon another emergent pattern, that one can “just adopt the aesthetics of a fact-check or a secret document leak and people will act like you’ve blown the cover off a huge scandal without assessing the underlying claim for themselves.”

This has been central to the effort by House Republicans to allege that President Biden was engaged in impeachable activity. House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has repeatedly offered allegations against Biden that mirror the presentation of lengthy, detailed investigations but then collapse under scrutiny. His supporters, mostly a subset of Donald Trump supporters, say Biden acted inappropriately and are happy to accept allegations as legitimate — while conservative media largely shields them from debunking, for whatever good it would do.

Why did so many Iowa caucus-goers indicate that they thought Biden’s win was illegitimate? Partly because of Trump’s advocacy for that idea, certainly, and in part because of the impermeability of the right-wing media universe. But many, too, cited doing their own research — looking for information on the subject that ended up reinforcing their beliefs.

The most extreme recent example of Americans’ recent willingness to embrace nonsensical claims is the QAnon movement. More muted since the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, QAnon adherents say a secret cabal controls the world, with media, entertainment and political elites conspiring — perhaps (some believe) to traffic children and consume a secret chemical that children produce. Many with whom I spoke in 2018 and 2019, though, simply viewed QAnon as an organizing concept for how Trump was battling nefarious, powerful forces on their behalf.

I remember clearly standing outside a Trump rally in New Hampshire in 2019 and speaking to a guy in a QAnon T-shirt. He was very genial and matter-of-fact in his claims. And he suggested that he knew why I didn’t agree with his assumptions.

What I needed, he said, was to do some of my own research.

 
The problem is that many of them tend to end up believing anything/one opposing mainstream media just because it opposes it.
which is still more based than being a leftist footsoldier.

it is better to question the status quo and be wrong, than follow the status quo no questions asked

I wish, but unfortunately the existence of the "based" grifter industry disproves that.
oh, did you suppose that right wing thought is dictated by these guys? i hear this a lot, where leftists thing right wingers are like them, in that they get their ideas from others. but they dont. the right wing doesnt have its ideas because trump or whoever said so. they agree with trump on whatever topic, but they do not depend on trump, or anyone, to tell them what to think
 
oh, did you suppose that right wing thought is dictated by these guys? i hear this a lot, where leftists thing right wingers are like them, in that they get their ideas from others. but they dont. the right wing doesnt have its ideas because trump or whoever said so. they agree with trump on whatever topic, but they do not depend on trump, or anyone, to tell them what to think
I like to think that the right is more critical thinking and less emotional and stupid than the left, and I think it is, by a bit. But 'both sides' give into demagoguery and think of 'us vs them' as absolutes. Bush was for war, code pink rioted. Obama continued war, they were all fine with it. Back and forth on many topics, for or against the issues depending on if 'their side' is in power.
 
Cognitive dissonance combined with a lack of interest in academia will be the downfall of the U.S. as Americans continue to become more ignorant and, therefore, more prone to being manipulated by faulty research. The replies pouring into this thread from my fellow Americans are genuinely disheartening. Academia and the scientific approach are worth saving and rehabilitating from tranny nigger faggot liberals, and you do need a quality education to actually do proper research. You can not achieve proper research by typing your opinions into Google. But, who am I preaching to? Shitting on academia, and research in general, might make someone feel better about having no educational achievements of their own but the real result is that it will spur the downfall of our nation expeditiously.
Alot of of academia is now unnecessary, anything that doesn't need equipment for experiments/hands on learning doesn't need to be taught in an institution anymore, but you're right, without academia, shit will get fucked real quick, but there is serious rot in academia. It isn't just academia itself but the context its in, big money is causing the replication crisis because a lot of scientific funding comes with the caveat that if the results don't match what the money wants, then no more money in the future. It's a shame because its turning scientific research into a career for spineless manipulative faggots.

Any researcher who has fudged data to fit the conclusion should be executed (in an ideal world, this would be feasible).
 
I like to think that the right is more critical thinking and less emotional and stupid than the left, and I think it is, by a bit. But 'both sides' give into demagoguery and think of 'us vs them' as absolutes. Bush was for war, code pink rioted. Obama continued war, they were all fine with it. Back and forth on many topics, for or against the issues depending on if 'their side' is in power.
but thats kind of the point of what im getting at

the left will just do whatever their side says to do. doesnt matter how many kids die in a drone strike, how bad the economy is, how poisoned the food is. if their party says its ok or good, it is ok or good

the right though....bush lost a lot of support when he did dumb shit, and so did trump. during trumps term, i worked with some of the most blue collar rednecks ive ever met, and they voted for trump, but would call him out when he did something dumb.
 
Google is good for most search. But, on info the ruling class doesn't want people knowing about its not good. Also, Google isn't good for privacy. Searxng and other engines are better for the latter. But it might take a page or two to get the results you want vs. google just having it on the top of the results.

I get my news from the only reliable source, the messages in my canned alphabet soup. Ettore Boiardi gives me wisdom straight from heaven, now in a delicious tomato sauce.
 
While it is true there are plenty of burgers who just follow the leader and only 'looks up' info just to properly fit in, it doesn't mean that people should be cut off from the ability to research their own info. As faulty as it is. While both might sell you poison, at least the latter let's you discern that on your own while the former demands that what you are taking is super vitamins with the side effect of death.
 
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Google nowadays is fairly bad as a search engine (far worse than it was but better than most unfortunately), and I think little enough of the competition. The article started decently but descended into the usual TDS.
 
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An offering of perspective:

So you have all of these goings on constantly seeming to press down upon you your supposed lack of agency and the extreme need to rely upon outside sources for any information. Perhaps taking it as training in how to become one's own person would help avoiding cynicism/despair/negativity? Perhaps becoming disillusioned and finally shaking one's self free of this ridiculous farce of a 24/7 propaganda mill is the entire point?
 
This came SO close to a based and realistic take, but of course, it turned to be just about how "prevalent" "misinformation" is.
 
The internet has been a huge boon for the accessibility of information. There are very few barriers to consuming classic literature or detailed scientific analyses or catalogues of news reports.
This is the only part of the article that is grounded in truth.
There is also an exorbitant amount of garbage information, of course, and an entire universe of people who say stuff that they think will get people to click links that will earn themselves money.
And, believe it or not, people can usually tell. They just lie to say the correct thing the group they're among at the moment wants to hear.
Americans who have little trust in the system can easily find something to reinforce their skepticism. They often do.
Like hysterical lefties who insist "white supremacy" is lurking at every turn.

“Although conventional wisdom suggests that searching online when evaluating misinformation would reduce belief in it, there is little empirical evidence to evaluate this claim,”
The problem is you (the researcher being quoted) started your evaluation with several conclusions drawn. First, that's not how users work. When they are researching or evaluating a subject, they don't start by assuming it's misinformation. Second, your definition of "misinformation" is so twisted and specific that it no longer means anything. These people are so divorced from reality, I stopped reading here.
 
"You might be wrong!"

-Potomac Pravda, throwing stones in their houses of glass.

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true. the internet is full of shit, most available information comes in the form of context-free snippets and memes made specifically to flatter somebody's pet opinions, just about everything on the internet was put there because somebody needs it to be true. but also, listening to authoritarian media is a good way to end up being wrong, too. experts are bullshit, credentials are handed out like candy, the biggest bullshitters in the world often come with a very official rubber stamp because what they're saying supports somebody in power. the information age is fucking chaos, consensus reality no longer exists. welcome to the nightmare.
 
Today I learned binomial probability theorem is a load of hoohah.

Washington post told me math don't real.

When the raw math says the odds of legitimacy for that 3 am PA ballot dump with only 2% Trump votes are 1 in 2.0x10^580 (yes, 580 zero denominator), it's the math that's wrong, not the self-evident cheating.

And when the Law Of First Digits Analysis make Enron And Iran look absolutely honest by comparison, it's the laws of mathematics which are wrong!

The problem with cheating as hard as you cheat in 2020 and 2022 is the outcomes are so improbable even innumerate rednecks smell the stench, even if they don't know what mathematics to turn to to prove it.
 
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