Don't be a dick when getting dick - Asking "are you clean?" is the ultimate ick.



Conversations about status and prevention methods are super important - but asking someone if they're "clean" to determine whether or not they're living with HIV is absolutely not the way and is frankly offensive and ignorant. ⁠

Why? ⁠

The first big issue is that it suggests that people living with HIV aren't "clean".​

This wording implies that they're somehow dirty. Not only is that offensive, but it’s also harmful and seriously stigmatising. People in our communities should know better than to do exactly what our queer forebears were fighting against. Stigma keeps people in the shadows and causes even more harm.
The key word in “people living with HIV” is people. They are human beings. Human beings that are affected by a virus which society has let carry far more stigma than almost any other modern health condition.

Framing the question in such a negative light can also discourage other people from getting tested, for fear of finding out that they’re not “clean” anymore - which just results in more and more people not knowing their status. This then leads to more HIV transmissions.

Secondly, it's not even a logical way to go about preventing HIV transmission.​


What does the answer to that question even tell you? If someone says, “Yup”, what does that even mean? That at their last HIV and STI test they tested negative, right?

So, the more important question would be: “Have you tested for HIV and STIs recently?”. That gives you way more to work with.

The next part of the flaw in this logic is - there’s no knowing that the person who says they’re “clean”, hasn’t contracted HIV or another STI since their last test, or tested too close to the window period to have a definitive result. Now, there’s nothing wrong with that - that’s the nature of staying on top of your sexual health: you can only test so often. But clearly asking if someone is “clean” does nothing to protect your own health, it only serves to make others feel awful.

Reminder: The person who is openly living with HIV and on treatment - who would fail your genius “Are you ‘clean’?” method - is not actually able to transmit HIV to you, so is a safer hookup than the person who says “Yup” and last tested over 6 months ago!

The reality is - HIV is most often transmitted by people who don’t know they're living with the virus​

It’s much more important to know your own status and take steps that protect your health than to rely on the words of a potential hookup on Grindr. That’s not to say they’re lying; that's just how testing and window periods work.
We’re not exaggerating when we say that testing is probably the most important thing you can do to protect your health and the health of people you have sex with. This is not just because it lets you know you haven’t contracted anything, but because if you do test positive for HIV or an STI, you can receive care and treatment ASAP and look after your health, while also stopping transmission.
HIV is much more dangerous when someone doesn’t know they've contracted it; not only are they likely to transmit it to others, but their own health will be compromised without treatment.

Condoms just don’t work for me - so that’s why I’ve been asking​


Sure. We know that condoms aren’t the solution for everyone. But there are definitely other options and, as explained earlier, asking if someone’s “clean” is not keeping you safe. So let’s replace it with something useful and not harmful.


If you find you get caught up in the moment a lot, we get it. They’re really hot and you're really horny. You’ve got a hungry hole and they can give you some release. Talking to a health-provider about getting on PrEP would be a great idea for you - then you know that you're protected, no matter how quickly things move.


If you have the time, having solid and non-stigmatising conversations about HIV and STI status is so important. There’s nothing wrong with letting people know when you last tested, and asking the same of others. But the other side of that coin is being comfortable with telling your partners if you test positive for any STI - and not making people feel bad if they do test positive or are living with HIV or any other long term STI like herpes or HPV.


If you are relying on testing as your only form of prevention, you need to be testing regularly, especially if you hook up with new or multiple partners. You also need to be ready to let people know as soon as possible if you test positive for anything (and ask others to do the same).


If you find out someone is living with HIV, have some empathy, but also have some understanding of U=U; people living with HIV who are on treatment and have an undetectable viral load don't pass on HIV sexually. They just don't. Even without condoms. While who you have sex with is your choice, it’s important to know this.

So, what can I say instead?​


Try these alternatives:
"When were you last tested?"
"Do you know your status?"

To sum up:​


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I'm sorry. I'm just not comfortable with the fact about catching a disease that eliminates your immune system, makes you dependent on drugs just to not die and eventually dying from the common cold.

Also, fuck you for spreading your disease everywhere. Faggotry is a sin and these faggots are proof of that. Remember to verify your blood bags. Because Red Cross has allowed these plaguespreaders to donate their tainted blood.
 
faggots are so gross

Yes lets just pretend AIDS is just like the common cold, lets not stigmatize faggots for the rampant unsafe hook up culture they live in.

Yup, just take it up the ass like a good boy and don't ask any questions.
The worse part is that it's not lethal enough to be a self correcting problem.

Monkey pox really let us down.
 
The worse part is that it's not lethal enough to be a self correcting problem.

Monkey pox really let us down.

The sad thing is AIDS used to be a death sentence but since it affects the most valuable part of society, upper class white faggots, they tossed hundreds of million of dollars into research to save our faggot population.

You know since these pozzed faggots have to take PReP for life the drug companys fucking love it. A super expensive drug that;s guaranteed by law to be covered by insurance and medicare is pharmacorps wet dream.

PReP is what the covid shot wanted to be. Something they could milk eternally for big bucks all with the thanks of the faggots sucking down the tabs every morning.
 
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The first big issue is that it suggests that people living with HIV aren't "clean".​

Thats because by definition they're not clean

This wording implies that they're somehow dirty. Not only is that offensive, but it’s also harmful and seriously stigmatising.
Fuck off, you've got HIV because you're a dirty degenerate. You did it to yourself. You should be stigmatized

Secondly, it's not even a logical way to go about preventing HIV transmission.​

Yes it is

The next part of the flaw in this logic is - there’s no knowing that the person who says they’re “clean”, hasn’t contracted HIV or another STI since their last test, or tested too close to the window period to have a definitive result. Now, there’s nothing wrong with that - that’s the nature of staying on top of your sexual health: you can only test so often. But clearly asking if someone is “clean” does nothing to protect your own health, it only serves to make others feel awful.
Idiot logic at its finest

Reminder: The person who is openly living with HIV and on treatment - who would fail your genius “Are you ‘clean’?” method - is not actually able to transmit HIV to you, so is a safer hookup than the person who says “Yup” and last tested over 6 months ago!
Anyone who actually believes that needs their head examined. If you're so sure you can't get infected because someone is 'taking treatment' You go right ahead and bend over for them or stick yourself with needles they've been using. Medical staff immediately go on antiviral drugs after a needle stick for a reason. Remember, they told everyone the covid vaccine prevented infection too

The reality is - HIV is most often transmitted by people who don’t know they're living with the virus​

If you have it and are far enough along to spread it you definitely know you have it

If you have the time, having solid and non-stigmatising conversations about HIV and STI status is so important.
No it isn't. This is sjw talk and saying 'if you have the time' sets off all kinds of red flags. Whats that about gays supposedly not being sex obsessed degenerates that can't keep it in their pants again?

  • Stop putting “clean” in your Grindr bio, and stop asking potential hookups if they’re “clean”
Stupid and idiotically dangerous 'advice'

  • Condoms, PrEP, regular testing and U=U are how we’ll stop transmission - not through stigma and discrimination
No, stigmatizing the infected is the best way to keep them out of society and away from people they can infect. It works and thats why these idiots don't want you doing it

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This is actually a growing problem in the gay community. I have a few gay friends and they said lots of gays, especially younger guys, think that all they need is PreP to be safe and that getting AIDs isn't even a big deal anymore since people are living to old age with it. A few months ago I saw some 18 year old gay kid trending because he was diagnosed with HIV and it was awful how the main stream media was gassing him up and really downplaying that this kid is stuck with a life long illness.

It's scary to see this push for downplaying STDs and worse that people are falling for it.
and thats why these idiots need to be stigmatized as much as possible
 
I have a few gay friends and they said lots of gays, especially younger guys, think that all they need is PreP to be safe and that getting AIDs isn't even a big deal anymore since people are living to old age with it.
Maybe they should start asking the retards who think that way what they think will happen if there's ever a shortage due to:

Natural disasters
Shipping snafus
War
Economic turmoil
Recall due to fuckups in production

Or any reason, really. I know next to nothing about PreP but considering there's been situations in which diabetics have gotten fucked over from lack of insulin I really do wonder how that'd work out. Especially on a personal level for them if they run out of dosh, I can't imagine that shit's cheap.
 
Maybe they should start asking the retards who think that way what they think will happen if there's ever a shortage due to:

Natural disasters
Shipping snafus
War
Economic turmoil
Recall due to fuckups in production

Or any reason, really. I know next to nothing about PreP but considering there's been situations in which diabetics have gotten fucked over from lack of insulin I really do wonder how that'd work out. Especially on a personal level for them if they run out of dosh, I can't imagine that shit's cheap.
Just a reminder that fags in the 80s got buttblasted at any bathhouse who asked (not required) their patrons to wear condoms and this is when GRIDS was ravaging the gay community. They’d rather die at age 30 from a cold than wear a rubber. They will gladly keep sodomizing each other until they die, PrEP or not.
 
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This shit is hilarious.
 
This is actually a growing problem in the gay community. I have a few gay friends and they said lots of gays, especially younger guys, think that all they need is PreP to be safe and that getting AIDs isn't even a big deal anymore since people are living to old age with it. A few months ago I saw some 18 year old gay kid trending because he was diagnosed with HIV and it was awful how the main stream media was gassing him up and really downplaying that this kid is stuck with a life long illness.

It's scary to see this push for downplaying STDs and worse that people are falling for it.
nah its based, cheering faggots on to get STDs is basically just one step below directly infecting them with it
 
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PreP but considering there's been situations in which diabetics have gotten fucked over from lack of insulin I really do wonder how that'd work out. Especially on a personal level for them if they run out of dosh, I can't imagine that shit's cheap.

You take PreP to keep you from getting HIV. So if you stop taking it nothing happens except you're vulnerable again to being infected by a HIV positive person .
 
You take PreP to keep you from getting HIV. So if you stop taking it nothing happens except you're vulnerable again to being infected by a HIV positive person .
Okay then why would it help people who are already pozzed?

I genuinely know jack-shit about it other than commercials and in passing seeing people say that those already infected take it and it improves their longevity.
 
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